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Finally a competitive Powerbook for the Pismo!
17"!!! that IS a good deal, no s*itt***y Ti stuff. 17" all the way, that was a serious design.
Then the new iBook nice.
The Key Note
so funny, Now I can put my hands on presentations the way I want.
The rest... cheap and usable.
Sad that I can not use that sky jacket in Venezuela
Now I have to sell all my stuff to get that 17" powerbook.
17"!!! that IS a good deal, no s*itt***y Ti stuff. 17" all the way, that was a serious design.
Then the new iBook nice.
The Key Note
so funny, Now I can put my hands on presentations the way I want.The rest... cheap and usable.
Sad that I can not use that sky jacket in Venezuela
Now I have to sell all my stuff to get that 17" powerbook.
Well, I am quite speechless about the accuracy of the rumors coming from this site. Way to go arn!!! Keep that source nice and warm for the next annoucements...
As for the products, I am soooo fuming over this new subnotebook: I bought my iBook 12"/800/combo at Apple Expo UK in November thinking 'ok they have just updated their laptop line so I should be safe with this iBook for a while' and
BANG come those annoucements! I could have done with a G4 processor(I guess)... aaaaargh (I couldn't care less about the difference in prices...).
As for the rest, Safari is quite cool, even though it is not as good as Chimera yet IMHO (tabbed browsing will hopefully come later, but i don't really mind not using tabs) and I really think the Apple users need a sort of common browser as opposed to dozens of different ones. It is so confusing for banking sites to have to try and support (on the mac) IE, Netscape, Mozilla, Chimera, Omniweb, Opera, etc... I hope that in a few months (when we get a gold version), Safari will be the de-facto standard for web browsing on the mac, and that browsing on it will be as good (better??) an experience as it is on IE on PeeCees...
The 17" Powerbook... I feel like Homer Simpson drooling over a burger. I was planning on shipping an updated (I hoped for it anyway) top end iMac to complement my iBook, but i am not so sure anymore...(167MHz bus, DDR333 RAM on that beast ??)
Thank you SJ for an eventful Keynote.
I'll stop now I need to go get something to eat (It is 20:40pm here).
Go MacRumors Go !!
NicoMan
As for the products, I am soooo fuming over this new subnotebook: I bought my iBook 12"/800/combo at Apple Expo UK in November thinking 'ok they have just updated their laptop line so I should be safe with this iBook for a while' and
BANG come those annoucements! I could have done with a G4 processor(I guess)... aaaaargh (I couldn't care less about the difference in prices...).
As for the rest, Safari is quite cool, even though it is not as good as Chimera yet IMHO (tabbed browsing will hopefully come later, but i don't really mind not using tabs) and I really think the Apple users need a sort of common browser as opposed to dozens of different ones. It is so confusing for banking sites to have to try and support (on the mac) IE, Netscape, Mozilla, Chimera, Omniweb, Opera, etc... I hope that in a few months (when we get a gold version), Safari will be the de-facto standard for web browsing on the mac, and that browsing on it will be as good (better??) an experience as it is on IE on PeeCees...
The 17" Powerbook... I feel like Homer Simpson drooling over a burger. I was planning on shipping an updated (I hoped for it anyway) top end iMac to complement my iBook, but i am not so sure anymore...(167MHz bus, DDR333 RAM on that beast ??)
Thank you SJ for an eventful Keynote.
I'll stop now I need to go get something to eat (It is 20:40pm here).
Go MacRumors Go !!
NicoMan
Re: Re: 12 inch Powerbook real disappointment
Not bad??
$500 for a new case and Bluetooth, compared to the 12 inch iBook?
The 12inch could be so much more. This does not compete with PC ultraportables. Again Apple misses the point on expandability.
This is a POWERBOOK. DVI, big memory and PCMCIA is missing!!!
Not bad??
$500 for a new case and Bluetooth, compared to the 12 inch iBook?
The 12inch could be so much more. This does not compete with PC ultraportables. Again Apple misses the point on expandability.
This is a POWERBOOK. DVI, big memory and PCMCIA is missing!!!
I agree completely! The big battle is coming. I read rumors that the new Appleworks may use XML, which is what keynote uses. I also believe MS is heading that way, which means we may get true compatibility between these apps in the future and then I can give MS the boot.
Did anyone notice how often Steve mentioned business. I think this is the next step in the push into the business world (Xserve, OSX, iMacs with larger screens, now Quickbooks (Sucks, but hey)).
BTW, Apple has done a great job of keeping our minds off the gigaherz gap. We don't expect portables to be as fast as desktops. This will by them a few more months of good press before we can get the new chips.
I'm happy, now the question is 12", 15" or 17"-hmm
100% agreed. Those rumors about the Power 4 not making its way to consumers until 2004 (found here) appears to be true. If this is indeed the case, then 2003 will look like another slow year for Apple's sales. The 17 inch and 12 inch PowerBooks are nice, but if you already bought a PowerBook in the past year, you are still probably paying down that $2k or $3k bill. I think those new PowerBooks will help sales but not by much.
Prousers are rightly dissatisfied with the price/performance ratio of the G4 PowerMacs--it's far too expensive for the performance you're getting. I use both Macs and PCs, and let me tell you that a $1k 2 GHz Wintel box is *very* fast. As I always believed, if Apple expects us to pay a premium for advanced software (like OS X), shouldn't we in return expect Apple to charge lower prices for slower hardware? The Mhz Myth is indeed a myth in some ways, but it cannot be denied that Wintel boxes are cheaper and much, much faster.
In any case, I'm going to keep paying down the $1,120 I have left on my 1 year-old 550 Mhz TiBook. Hopefully in a year from now when I start looking for a new laptop, a Power-4 PowerBook will be ready.
Re: Good show...
Sigh...good show today, but I'm one of those ultra-portable freaks.
BooHoo. BooHooHooHooHoo.
Sigh...good show today, but I'm one of those ultra-portable freaks.
BooHoo. BooHooHooHooHoo.
I agree! In the end MacRumors has shown itself to be the true mac rumors site! Thorough and inclusive, but not trumpeting rumors as facts either. Good instincts Id say!
Well, I mostly agree with this, but I feel much more strongly that its not as good as Chimera. In fact, Id go so far as to say 'What the hell was Jobs thinking???'
Ive downloaded Safari. Its got to good things going for it: a 3 mb download
and a pretty darn quick cold start time. Other then that, its NOT significantly faster then the latest Chimera, it doesn't have tabbed browsing, and it doesn't even go with OSXs UI as well! Plus the fact that its based on KHTML... just silly! Mozilla based browsers are on their way towards becoming a major player, as in #2 to IE. Between their mass adoption in Linux and AOL headed towards using it in their software, Apple and their block head programers will be left WAY behind by the vastly inferior KHTML base.Would have been a nice try a few years ago Steve, but let me know when your ready to make a REAL browser.
Does iDVD 3 work with external burners? The summary doesn't mention the name iLife (a silly name, but so what).
Keynote is a great program. I am amazed.
Airport Extreme is great, too.
But the 17" Powerbook is flat-out astonishing. A lighted keyboard! I just almost can't believe it. Firewire 800, too.
How can they do all this stuff?
Keynote is a great program. I am amazed.
Airport Extreme is great, too.
But the 17" Powerbook is flat-out astonishing. A lighted keyboard! I just almost can't believe it. Firewire 800, too.
How can they do all this stuff?
Firewire 800
This is my first post here. C'mon ... big hug everyone. Good show overall. Uninterrupted keynote stream on a 56K modem on an AMD K6-2 450 Win98 machine so I don't know what everyone's complaining about.
Now the problem. Are they only gonna put Firewire 800 in Powerbooks? Just doesn't seem right to me ... they need to update their other lines w/this new standard ASAP. Also the fact that you need an adapter for backwards compatibility will hurt Firewire 800's acceptance. Just my 2 cents.
Later.
- Macurious
P.S. I don't have a Mac 'cause I can't afford one.
This is my first post here. C'mon ... big hug everyone. Good show overall. Uninterrupted keynote stream on a 56K modem on an AMD K6-2 450 Win98 machine so I don't know what everyone's complaining about.
Now the problem. Are they only gonna put Firewire 800 in Powerbooks? Just doesn't seem right to me ... they need to update their other lines w/this new standard ASAP. Also the fact that you need an adapter for backwards compatibility will hurt Firewire 800's acceptance. Just my 2 cents.
Later.
- Macurious
P.S. I don't have a Mac 'cause I can't afford one.
Deak safari site...
I've found my first regular site that won't load in Safari:
It is the discussion boards at Beliefnet...the home page loads fine, but no luck on the discussion pages...
I've found my first regular site that won't load in Safari:
It is the discussion boards at Beliefnet...the home page loads fine, but no luck on the discussion pages...
by firestarter
This is the common man's G4 laptop. I couldn't be happier. This new PB cost me less than the original 500 dual iBook! Bigger bus, much faster processor, altivec, double the hard drive storage, bluetooth, airport extreme, etc.
Sure I wish you could put a gig of memory in it. Don't need a card.
I also can't wait to have that silver finish! This alone will attract a crowd that thought the white skin was just too young looking.
This thing should do very well. Thanks to some good info on this site, I now will be the owner of a new powerbook instead of an 800 iBook. (Which ain't bad either.)
This is the common man's G4 laptop. I couldn't be happier. This new PB cost me less than the original 500 dual iBook! Bigger bus, much faster processor, altivec, double the hard drive storage, bluetooth, airport extreme, etc.
Sure I wish you could put a gig of memory in it. Don't need a card.
I also can't wait to have that silver finish! This alone will attract a crowd that thought the white skin was just too young looking.
This thing should do very well. Thanks to some good info on this site, I now will be the owner of a new powerbook instead of an 800 iBook.
(Which ain't bad either.)Imalave...that's not an ultra-portable computing device...
Imalave...
I've seen you lobby for the current mobile phones as the replacement for the PDA. I don't think you really understand what is needed by those of us who seek an ultra-portable solution, because the current phones (and believe me, I've played with all of them) don't deliver.
Again, Apple is the only company who will be able to develop a solution that works for those of us who have integrated our digital lives on the mac platform...
Imalave...
I've seen you lobby for the current mobile phones as the replacement for the PDA. I don't think you really understand what is needed by those of us who seek an ultra-portable solution, because the current phones (and believe me, I've played with all of them) don't deliver.
Again, Apple is the only company who will be able to develop a solution that works for those of us who have integrated our digital lives on the mac platform...
Well, Steve Jobs is officially wasting our time. Without a significant introduction of a new chip, or a new, amazingly thought out piece of hardware, that no one could live without, there really was no point in having this expo. How much longer will we be stranded on g4 island? Apple used to be the inovator in regards to the pc market, but they keep rehashing the same old technology in different boxes. Steve, we are seriously falling behind. A couple of new apps, and a diferent sized laptop do not warrant an expo. These are things that should have been released quietly, as updates. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not some pc user who wants to do some apple bashing here. I love apple, but they have to kick it into high gear! At the very least they could have introduced a version of itunes that encodes mp4's. They didn't even do that.
Re: Deak safari site...
They work great in Mozilla and Chimera!
I say again, what was Jobs thinking?
They work great in Mozilla and Chimera!
I say again, what was Jobs thinking?
Re: Re: Re: 12 inch Powerbook real disappointment
And an available Superdrive, installed internally.
Of course it could have been more. I too would have liked to have seen a L3 Cache. But this package is really quite competitive with the PC ultraportables. If you disagree, I have three VAIO 505's for you to buy off of me
No, its a low weight RoadWarrior tool. As such:
* It needs a standard SVGA out to go into the run-of-the-mill overhead projector, not DVI.
* It needs just enough power to run MS-Powerpoint with an occasional embedded video's.
* It needs the ability to get data into the machine with a built-in CD player.
* It needs the ability to get data off the machine via CD-R(W).
* It needs to be able to occasionally hook up a USB ZIP drive for uploading someone's presentation that didn't burn it to CD.
FWIW, what do I need PCMIA for? Digital camera memory cards?
I think I may have finally found the new machine I've been holding out for. I'll have to ask the wife if I can get the 12" instead of the iBook, complete with Airport Extreme.
-hh
And an available Superdrive, installed internally.
Of course it could have been more. I too would have liked to have seen a L3 Cache. But this package is really quite competitive with the PC ultraportables. If you disagree, I have three VAIO 505's for you to buy off of me
No, its a low weight RoadWarrior tool. As such:
* It needs a standard SVGA out to go into the run-of-the-mill overhead projector, not DVI.
* It needs just enough power to run MS-Powerpoint with an occasional embedded video's.
* It needs the ability to get data into the machine with a built-in CD player.
* It needs the ability to get data off the machine via CD-R(W).
* It needs to be able to occasionally hook up a USB ZIP drive for uploading someone's presentation that didn't burn it to CD.
FWIW, what do I need PCMIA for? Digital camera memory cards?
I think I may have finally found the new machine I've been holding out for. I'll have to ask the wife if I can get the 12" instead of the iBook, complete with Airport Extreme.
-hh
Some real surprises in these laptops... not only is Apple the first to use DDR-333 in a laptop (good), but they chose to place a slower video card in the 17" PB than in the 15" PB (bad). Well, perhaps the GF4MX-440 in the 17" is faster at some things, but only if the clock rate of the Radeon 9000 has been set very low. The Radeon 9000 certainly has more features. Also, depending on clock speed, the Radeon 7500 in the iBook is probably faster than the GF4MX-420 in the 12" PB. It is also likely that the no-L3 G4 would find it's butt kicked in a number to things by the top-end iBook G3.
I am rather impressed with Apple clever reuse of the iBook shell for a PB, and with the 17" iMac screen popping up in a PB. Gotta be smart to stay ahead these days.
I am rather impressed with Apple clever reuse of the iBook shell for a PB, and with the 17" iMac screen popping up in a PB. Gotta be smart to stay ahead these days.
this was my first revival...i mean keynote....and what an experience it was! My roommate was drawn into my office by screams and cheers and stayed till the bitter end, laughing uproarusly at the mini-me/yao ming(?) commercial....good stuff.
Two things:
1) does final cut express officially kill aobe premiere on the mac? i mean, what's the point in adobe updating past 6.5 now?
2)i bought a 1ghz powerbook last month. i don't mind that i missed the screen size updates, or even the bluetooth, but why didn't they update the hard drive specs on the recent tibook updates (new PB's UltraATA/100, my PB Ultra ATA/66)? Nevertheless, my tibook still rocks, and i had bragging rights 'round my office for about a month.
good job, arn. good job, steve. are you guys in cahoots?
Two things:
1) does final cut express officially kill aobe premiere on the mac? i mean, what's the point in adobe updating past 6.5 now?
2)i bought a 1ghz powerbook last month. i don't mind that i missed the screen size updates, or even the bluetooth, but why didn't they update the hard drive specs on the recent tibook updates (new PB's UltraATA/100, my PB Ultra ATA/66)? Nevertheless, my tibook still rocks, and i had bragging rights 'round my office for about a month.
good job, arn. good job, steve. are you guys in cahoots?
This IS the g4 iBook
I see people saying they might "wait until the g4 iBook". I have news for you. This IS the G4 iBook. Just look at them side-by-side.
I see people saying they might "wait until the g4 iBook". I have news for you. This IS the G4 iBook. Just look at them side-by-side.
Keynote Rocks!!!
I always wonder what program he use to make his presentations.
I wish I could get. Now my wish has come true
this program runs circles around powerpoint
by the way i'm use Safari, never going back to IE die M$blow!!!
Long live apple!!!
I always wonder what program he use to make his presentations.
I wish I could get. Now my wish has come true
this program runs circles around powerpoint
by the way i'm use Safari, never going back to IE die M$blow!!!
Long live apple!!!
Re: Re: SAFARI
I am glad you could get rid of IE. I could not Maybe not many people use it, but I love Apple custom Icards and Safari just wont let me do that So far IE is the only browser that allows me to make custom Icards from pictures in my Idisk. Anyone know a solution to this, let me know. Anyway great keynote
Originally posted by paulwhannel
Oh give it up... Apple's never made a web browser before, and it's amazingly well-featured, simple, and compatible. Not *that* many people use tabbed browsing, i'm happy to get it now and see tabbed browsing come in an update, rather than the whole thing be delayed until they could get THAT mess sorted out...
IE and Netscape are officially off my dock... yay!
pnw
I am glad you could get rid of IE. I could not
Maybe not many people use it, but I love Apple custom Icards and Safari just wont let me do that So far IE is the only browser that allows me to make custom Icards from pictures in my Idisk. Anyone know a solution to this, let me know. Anyway great keynote