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Did anyone notice the odd way Steve Jobs finished his discussion regarding the iPod? He said something like, and that's the end of my discussion about that, like he was holding something back, or that he knew there was a LOT of speculation about an updated iPod.
 
Hemingray:

Wrong! If you compare a similarly-speced iBook with the 12 inch PowerBook, it's a difference of $350, and for that you get a faster G4 processor (don't forget the processor, sheesh!) AND DDR ("fake" or not, it's still DDR), AND built-in Bluetooth, AND better graphics, AND line-in. That to me is worth an extra $350!
An 867mhz no-L3 G4 is not faster in all situations than a 512k G3 at 800mhz. A GF4Go-420 is probably slower than a Radeon 7500 Mobility, although the clock rates can vary. The DDR is worthless, no performance edge, no higher capacity, so basically it's irrelevant.

Really, not much special about the 12" PB except that Apple can sell them at a higher price than iBooks. :) I would still prefer a iBook and it's cool-running G3.
 
I don't think KHTML was a mistake.

I have a PC here I use for testing web pages in IE5, IE6, and NS7 on WinXP. I also boot into Red Hat 8 on this machine to run Folding and a few other network apps. Konqueror on the Intel box is MUCH faster than any of the Mozilla variants, and much more compliant with HTML coding.

Safari feels about 1/3 faster (that's subjective, folks, I didn't run tests) than Chimera, and light years ahead of IE. I'm not a big fan of brushed metal, but i like how they streamlined the interface. Hopefully the days of "Big Honkin' Toolbar Buttons", a holdover from Mosaic, are gone.

As long as the browser engine complies to major standards, and is fast and stable, it doesn't really matter. And KHTML is a little more streamlined than Mozilla, IMO.

Who wants to bet there was a fight in Apple Marketing whether or not to make the 12" a Powerbook or an iBook?
 
Re: X11

Originally posted by cyberfunk
Check out what I found !!!

http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/

an official X11 implementation by apple !!!

Now.. where can I get Apps built for X11 that work with this ? Fink ? Or will those apps only work with the fink install of X11 ?

Oh my goodness gracious! This is HUGE! Now Unixheads and Linuxheads everywhere will flock to the Mac in even greater numbers than before. Of course, X11 was available from 3rd parties anyway, but it's still huge to have it officially supported by Apple. Apple is definitely moving in the right direction. When you're the underdog, you have to go for as many open standards as possible, whereas the 800-lb. gorilla's strategy (MS) is to create as many propietary "standards" as possible...
 
Originally posted by mcrain
Did anyone notice the odd way Steve Jobs finished his discussion regarding the iPod? He said something like, and that's the end of my discussion about that, like he was holding something back, or that he knew there was a LOT of speculation about an updated iPod.

Probably the latter.
 
OK Steve. You got me. I'm currently enjoying this delicious foot in my mouth. I'm the guy who said this Macworld would be boring. I was wrong. The iApps are great- iDVD is sweet- Keynote is sweet- Safari is sweet- Final Cut Express is sweet- Firewire 800 is sweet- Airport Extreme is sweet- 17 powerbook is super sweet- 12 powerbook is good- All told, a very good Macworld. But I was there Steve when Jon Rubenstein rambled on for 30 minutes about pipeline stages. I witnessed firsthand "ten developers for OSX". I felt the sting of .Mac in person. I was hurt Steve. I actually cried. But not today- today you made me believe in the magic again. Today you reminded me why I use a Mac- it's not because they're the fastest, or the cheapest- they're just the best. And Apple really does do things for this industry that Dell, and Gateway, and Microsoft can never do- even with their piles and piles of money, thoughtful computer design and function escape them. So, I'm sorry Steve. Nice job.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: 12 inch Powerbook real disappointment

Originally posted by goofbutt


Although both new Powerbooks are impressive, I like the cleaner lines of the 'older' Powerbooks. The new ones have all the connections on the side which IMO take away from the clean looks.

As a Ti400 user both on the desktop and on the lap I would prefer side ports over back ports. It is a practical matter. Also on the Ti400/500 and probably others the back has a door that covers the modem and ethernet plugs but NOT the powercord plug. If I designed it I would put the modem, ethernet and power all nearby so laptop but plugged in use is more practical. The new arrangement seems to solve this. The Airport Extreme merely rocks.

I want my Air-Power -tm to go fully wireless. I am sure the microwave exposure will only be a minor health risk :)

Some interesting random observations from the stunning new 17" PowerBook.

PB17 details of interest.

Stereo Audio in out and speakers
ATA100 drive interface (welcome but overkill)
Firewire 800 and FW400 interfaces
1/3 the bandwidth of FIBERCHANNEL
167MHz bus, PC2700 DDR333 RAM (finally)
lighted keyboard, it and the screen adjusts to ambient light
The most "practical" addition to the new system INHO.

Built-in Bluetooth 1.1
Built-in 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme wireless networking (based on 802.11g draft specification; IEEE 802.11b Wi-Fi certified)
It just rocks.

12-Mbps USB 1.1 ports
Notable no USB 2.0 despite very widespread availability of peripherals for it. Apple is trying to kill USB in their own little and futile way.

I also seemed to notice support for GSM (whatever) phones via bluetooth. I assume this means cell-phone access to internet. But I wonder how slow BT actually is. Is it even modem speed?

This feature alone would sell alot of computers if it works, is buyable as a solution and is at least as useable as a modem. Many phone companies now have data plans which are comparible to expensive landline dial-up ISP's.

I want to go on the internet from the middle of the desert and accept paypal :)

With this new release I actually got several of my wishes!

Rocketman


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lmalave:

Oh my goodness gracious! This is HUGE! Now Unixheads and Linuxheads everywhere will flock to the Mac in even greater numbers than before. Of course, X11 was available from 3rd parties anyway, but it's still huge to have it officially supported by Apple.
You do not seem to understand "Unixheads and Linuxheads". Installing 3rd-party software is not a big deal.

IMHO, X11 should be part of OSX by default, integrated as smoothly as Apple can.

Apple][Forever:

Who wants to bet there was a fight in Apple Marketing whether or not to make the 12" a Powerbook or an iBook?
I'll bet that there was no fight. It obviously makes sense to sell a higher-margin "pro" iBook-alike. I think this was a very smart move by Apple.
 
Anyone see this?

From Apple's site:
"The PPP dial-in feature in AirPort Extreme lets you make one very important wireless connection ? to your own Macintosh at home. Thanks to connectivity options such as DSL, cable and Ethernet, you can call the 56K V.90 modem-equipped AirPort Extreme Base Station at home when you?re at work or traveling. Need a document that?s on your Mac desktop at home? Not to worry. If your Mac is on, ready to share files, and connected to the Internet using the AirPort Extreme Base Station and a broadband connection, you can access it as well as the other computers ? from almost anywhere in the world."

Could we always do this?

Oh, and you can add an external antanae, AND one model does not include a modem. Funny he didn't mention any of this.

I wish the new cards worked with old hardware. I'd like to get a new base station.

Regards,
Gus
 
Re: X11

Originally posted by cyberfunk
Check out what I found !!!

http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/

an official X11 implementation by apple !!!

Now.. where can I get Apps built for X11 that work with this ? Fink ? Or will those apps only work with the fink install of X11 ?

Have you tried OpenOffice...? the same free Office suite that's shipping withe Red Hat 8 Linux.
Take a look: http://www.openoffice.org/
It did work (terribly slow though) with the previous XDarwin.
 
Re: SAFARI

Originally posted by nickmcghie
uhhhh... no tabbed browsing???? wtf were they thinking??? i'm gonna stick with chimera until they add tabbed browsing

I posted a bug for Safari mentioning that they were missing. 8)

At least it's really trim and has a minimalistic interface.

Dan
 
Originally posted by ddtlm
lmalave:
You do not seem to understand "Unixheads and Linuxheads". Installing 3rd-party software is not a big deal.

Ummm...maybe I shouldn't even have mentioned Linuxheads.

My real intention was to comment on Apple, not Linuxheads. I'm just saying any sign that Apple is embracing Unix even more tightly is a good thing - it helps Apple build on the momentum it's already gained in the Unix/Linux world. In the very near future (if not already), you'll have two core Mac constituencies: 1) creative professionals and 2) so-called "Alpha Geeks". The Mac community will be like one big Carnegie-Mellon!
 
Re: Safari and secure sites

Originally posted by wjdennen
Unfortunately, Safari does not seem to handle secure sites with self-signed certificates.

IE handles these sites fine, although it throws up a warning message.

Safari just says it can't authenticate and won't let you load the site.

Self-sign certs are used often, especially for testing secure web apps.

Safari performs poorly with secure sites all around. They are slow to load and they cannot even be accessed at all through a proxy that operates on a port other than 443 (which makes it useless at my company).
 
Safari tips

Did you know that in Safari you can use Apple shortcuts to go to your favourite sites? Any sites on your bookmark toolbar can be accessed by pressing Apple-1 (the first one on the toolbar), Apple-2 (the second) etc etc

Pretty neat eh?

LOVED the keynote.

One word.

WOW
 
Re: Safari tips

Originally posted by Molson
Did you know that in Safari you can use Apple shortcuts to go to your favourite sites? Any sites on your bookmark toolbar can be accessed by pressing Apple-1 (the first one on the toolbar), Apple-2 (the second) etc etc

Pretty neat eh?


Actually yeah! That is pretty neat! Sould be on Chimera pretty quick Id imagine. Can't wait!
 
Anyone noticing the similarities, design wise, between new powerbooks and ibooks?

also, is there no light up keyboard on the 12 inch? I dont think there is

also with keyboards, notice how the letters are placed centrally on the key, not in corner, and with new font. interesting, cool.
 
Expo...

What a fine bevy of gifts from Apple this time around. Incredible.

Hope the real-time update was to you folks' liking. Cheers.


blakespot
 
Originally posted by Dignan
Anyone noticing the similarities, design wise, between new powerbooks and ibooks?

also, is there no light up keyboard on the 12 inch? I dont think there is

also with keyboards, notice how the letters are placed centrally on the key, not in corner, and with new font. interesting, cool.

Looks like the same font on my 12" iBook, but the iBook keyboard is white, not cool ass silver.

And, yeah, probably no fight, just a light bulb going off in some marketer's head... must have read the "i'd buy a G4 iBook" threads :)
 
some interesting notes:

15" PowerBook 1GHz SuperDrive (ATI9000 64MB) price dropped
15" PowerBook 867 MHz Combo (ATI9000 32MB) no price drops
(order a built-to-order option of the 1GHz model with a drop to combo/40Gb and it comes close to the price of the 867MHz model; difference 150$ with similar RAM)

17" PowerBook estimated shipping in Europe LATE MARCH
(not that I could afford it)

Do you think it is the PowerPC 7457 inside the new AluBooks?
 
This has been the first keynote I've watched live and it was immense. I didn't know that these things could be so exciting. Jobs is a great performer on stage. Love the look of the updated iApps. I'm very happy that the iApps remain free unless you want iDVD (to me they will stay free), Keynote looks superb, and Safari is nice, fast and easy to use. This is a great start to the year and I hope that it continues.
 
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