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Originally posted by iH8Quark


Your email won't go away. You just won't get 10 extra MB. You're limited to 5 MB. Chill out. Mac.com email is still free, as far as I know.

From the .Mac FAQ:

Q: What happens to my data if I choose not to join .Mac

Following the 60-day trial period, any home pages, Backup or other files stored in iDisk and messages left on the email server will be removed.

You get 5MB with the *trial* account. That's what everybody's just been moved over to. The thing about the trial account is it's only good for 60 days (normally - looks like all existing iTools accounts have been given a 75 day trial period). After that time it goes away.
 
None of my predictions happened yet, except one:

http://www.elgato.com/eyeTV/index.html

A tivo like offering.

I still expect Powermac upgrades in late August.

The iMac is a pretty good price for all it offers and the figure quoted in the live webcast keynote (viewed on G4-400 Mac OS9 QT5 Quicktime stream cablemodem).

Possibly the item of greatest note to me was conectivity with Palm and Cellphones, a feature I am likely to late adopt.

I signed up for .mac in hopes I could use it as a public FTP to RECEIVE large video files and there seems to be no way without offering your main password to users. I was hoping for a separately password accessable or even pure publis FTP spot. If I missed something. please let me know.

This way people with cripled internet access can go to a faster commection for a while and upload their videos or even large photo collections to me.

As the Mac guy I would then act as the worldwide server of the data to all qualified users.

Rocketman

He got applause and nothing flew off the stage! He must be stoked!

:cool:
 
Bluetooth?

Hihi, I'm delurking :D *wave*

Didn't it strike you all as odd that Steve and Phil conducted that Address Book demonstration with the Bluetooth-enabled phones, a feature that no currently available mac will be able to use? I was certain that we'd see some sort of huge Bluetooth announcement, but it never came.

I hope they offer something like a Bluetooth / AirPort combo card instead of just that sloppy USB wart for Bluetooth connectivity. Grrrr, I was soooo hoping for something like a 2 button, Bluetooth wireless scrollwheel mouse! Guess I need to get my head out of the clouds.
 
free now not free

Originally posted by Ramble
Hey apple, nice way to turn in to M$. You can go **** yourself for $100 a year. Thanks, now I have to switch all the email I get because I used to type in mac.com because it was easy....oh well. Hey apple....go to hell.

:mad:
Man I can't believe how many people are upset about .mac costing $99 per year. It's a business! That's a good deal for what you are getting. I'm curious to see if I can direct a domain name to a .mac address then I'll get rid of my current hosting plan. My wife used iTools with iPhoto up until now so going fulltime .mac and dumping my current host could be a better deal for both of us.
Please people...calm down for Jiminy Glick's sake!
 
My $0.02

I guess with all the expectations and hype, Steve's keynote could be construed as a disappointment. But remember: Apple promised nothing to begin with (all the rumor sites were the ones going in overdrive) so I guess a few software updates isn't too shabby.

As for the .Mac $49 fee, here's my opinion: There is simply no way for company to keep giving free stuff away without anything in return. Microsoft is already going to charge people who access their POP mail account through Hotmail. There are already some advertising links on Hotmail too, so Microsoft is squeezing money from consumers directly and indirectly. So yes, it sucks that Apple is going to charge for .Mac after they kept telling everyone it's free to use. However, I would say that Apple (once again) is showing where the industry is going: The age of freebies is dying, and Apple is just recognizing this earlier than most companies.

In anycase, I can't wait for Jaguar and iTunes 3. I'll downloand the latter tonight when I get home.
 
I'm not sure what to think

As much as I like the 17" imac, that's not what I wanted.
As much as I like the bigger ipod, that's not what I wanted.
As much as I like the additional functions the ipod will have, that still isn't what I wanted.
As much as iSync and iCal look useful, that's not what I wanted.

Oh well, patience is a virgin.
 
Of all the things that didn't come out at this Expo, I think iTunes WITH AAC audio ripping was the most perplexing. We got QT6 just now, and then iTunes3... where is it? I assumed this was a given.

Otherwise iTunes3 is great, but I was all set to start ripping my cd collection to my big new external drive (speaking of which it would be nice if there were some better way to do that, while temporarily storing X amount of files on your normal drive - I use an iBook w/only 20GB, and it's already full of other stuff).
 
Very Unhappy no @mac.com light for free

I understand this is business and nothing is free. I am willing to sign up for $100 for one of our @mac.com accounts. But everyone in my family has thier own @mac.com address. Extras are $10 each.

I am not happy about this change. I am very very unhappy.

$100 is a good value for everything. But my family members only need low volume @mac.com e-mail accounts.

We could switch to other services, but what a pain.

We need to e-mail Apple to ask them to create an @mac.com light option.
 
Re: free now not free

Originally posted by theranch

Man I can't believe how many people are upset about .mac costing $99 per year. It's a business! That's a good deal for what you are getting. I'm curious to see if I can direct a domain name to a .mac address then I'll get rid of my current hosting plan. My wife used iTools with iPhoto up until now so going fulltime .mac and dumping my current host could be a better deal for both of us.
Please people...calm down for Jiminy Glick's sake!
Apples new campaign: Switch....Switch all your email and then 2 years later we will take it away from you with little or no warning. I am in college, and $100 may not seem like a lot to you, but it is to me. I'm glad I got this powerbook on an apple loan when I could have bought a Dell for half the price with more functionality. I have never thought about switching before, but now....who knows. Nice work stevie...what's wrong, your stock options aren't making enough money?

Maybe they are just trying to make some money to balance the books before the accounting scandal that shows that they actually have zero dollars in the bank breaks.
 
the theoretical and actual applications of the new sync software is amazing. please do not cry about the price. about $250 for jaguar and .mac is nothing compared to great features and possibilites that they offer. even if this communication between programs and machines did exist in such a simple form for pc, it would take days to simply get it to work and even then it probably would not offer the type of productivity that the mac offers.

a rather small premium is ok with me and if it goes to support a company that is obviously on the leading edge of allowing to personal computer to makes ones life more enjoyable, that is fine by me.

Please let there be a G4 iBook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
New PMacs...

In answer to those hoping that Apple may have 'hinted' at the imminent release of new PowerMacs. Well of course they won't. I've read in several places that they still have a large inventory of the old models to get rid of. So if Apple itself even hints at something new coming, even less people will buy any of the old models. You'd be surprised at how many buyers don't read the rumor sites, or just go to an Apple Store to see what's on offer.

These keynotes are all the same. If you read the rumors sites, they always disappoint. They all follow the same format. Start with some ads and sales figures, then about an hour looking at an upcoming release of OSX, plus announcements of new iSoftware, or third party software (although this too was lacking this time...no progress reports from Quark, for example?), then in between a few minor updates to existing hardware. The last really exciting announcement at a Keynote was the introduction of the TiBook...

Mind you, that new 17" iMac looks good...I'm tempted ;)
 
New iPod firmware?

Does anybody happen to know whether and where the new iPod firmware is available? Do we have to wait until august to get it onto your ol' Pods? :confused:
 
chill

just chill. great apps. hardware has been updated this spring and will be this fall. as for .mac. that sucks, but i hope i can keep my email at least.

chill.
 
I'm SO Disappointed

Great, I just saw an hour and a half on Jaguar. Yippie! But he never once talked about Quartz Extreme, and NEVER talked about performance benchmark improvements.

Let's HOPE, and PRAY, that Jaguar is indeed faster, otherwise this is going to get ugly.

If Jaguar is a lot faster, then fine, I can live with the 800mhz in the newest iMac.

Why didn't Apple put a 933mhz in the fastest iMac? What a lame upgrade?

Apple is trying to save "positioning" for the PowerMac line for what reason? Because they are NOT innovating at the PROCESSOR or MOTHERBOARD level. I am hoping the PowerMac's change this. Apple is hopelessly behind in these areas. The current iMac's are cute for home, but are really expensive 17" systems. Especially when AMD and Intel just announced they'll be delivering 3ghz performance in a few months!!!!

Here's what Apple should have done:
- Upgrade all processors in the iMac line (base: 800, 2 hi-end: 933 mhz or 1 ghz). They could still leave no L3 or no DDR, but GIVE US SOMETHING!!

- Screw the current positioning problem with the PowerMac line, no one is going to buy them right now unless they HAVE to HAVE a machine in the next 30 days. Hopefully the new PowerMac's will have a serious speed upgrade.

- Apple has to make the Power Mac's wonderful. A powermac costs $2000 more than a similarly equipped iMac (when including a 17" LCD display).

Please Apple, we'd love to get Windows users, but Apple hasn't done enough to make this easier.!!!

:mad: :mad:
 
Re: a little flat

Originally posted by gelbin
no upgrade price for jagwire.
now that is the worst.
i bought g4 533's for my school and osx is not quick on them. they will have to upgrade, and that comes at a price.
.

I'm sorry, you're not getting away with that. I've got a G4 400 and a G4 350 and OSX just plain rocks on both of them. I also work on a G4 Quicksilver dual-gig with FCP and other than rendering graphics or filters, the rest of the interface is baically the same, graphics cards aside. So if there's something you don't like on your 533s it's something you don't like about the interface. Not the speed of your machines. A 533 should rock along just great. What exactly do you find slow?
 
to all those bitching about .Mac. whatever its worth it, and im a college student. three words: GET A JOB! i mean wtf. dont tell me you dont have time. you dont UNDERSTAND not having time, but guess what?? i have a job. ill pay.
 
mail bombs

rally the masses and everyone mail apple please please please. go to the new.mac site and send some mail to the feedback area, its in the bottom left corner of the brushed steel mail interface. mail them and tell them to atleast let all the mac users using mac.com mail adresses to keep them. i mean come on, would it be that much trouble? i am so worked up about having to pay money after using this adress for so long, i can understand paying for the other things but the mail?

so come on lets try and convince them otherwise...

-john

(i know im a bit hopefull but its worth a try)
 
man, it seems like no one is happy. Just to remind some of us:

1. Expos are not the only release points, so don't sweat it about the Pmacs and ACC. ACC Will probably be a forth comming update to iTunes, or, it is hung up in the MPEG LA liscensing agreement. No one wants to pay for iTunes, so you may ahve to use QT PRo to re convert even if iTunes supports the files. Given the end of the current rebate programs, you can probably expect new hardware by August 13th, or maybe the 24th to release with Jaguar.

2. Apple has obviously been working overtime to provide us with a very nice OS update. Even with the price, this is probably a loss per unit product, hence the other charge services.

3. Freebies have been dead for a while now, try getting free shipping ofr out post on most of their items. Free stuff was a hallmark of the .com boom, and while those were great times for everybody at the time, we are suffering the pain now. That will probably get worse before it gets better. (see stock market)

4. I think part of the problem around here is the high number of very young people who are Mac crazy. Thats cool that young people like Macs, I loved them as a kid from my Mac Plus on up. However, people seem to have a real strek of entitlement syndrome going on, which is wierd, since a lot of these people have not shelled out dime one for apple.

5. You spend more for the hardware because its well built and it does what you want. The hardware will continue to improve, and anyone who thinks a wintell box is better because it has some highly modified numbers tacked to it is fooling thmeselves. What's speed without real functionality.

6. An intelligent person would rather drive a well built Benz at a slower speed than a slapped together miata thirty miles an hour faster (this goes for Hardware and OS):D
 
this is a huge disappointment on many levels. and to top it off my email address will cease to exist in 75 days! this is horse****.
 
Re: mail bombs

Originally posted by twistedsun
rally the masses and everyone mail apple please please please. go to the new.mac site and send some mail to the feedback area, its in the bottom left corner of the brushed steel mail interface. mail them and tell them to atleast let all the mac users using mac.com mail adresses to keep them. i mean come on, would it be that much trouble? i am so worked up about having to pay money after using this adress for so long, i can understand paying for the other things but the mail?

so come on lets try and convince them otherwise...

-john

(i know im a bit hopefull but its worth a try)

Given the near universal consumer feed back from existing customers in support of this they would be very wise to do it. It would possibly even improve customer relations enough to encourage a fraction of these cost crippled and inertia ridden email users time and incentive to pay as Apple would prefer.

But to wipe out email accounts is silly. I had a webmail account "upgraded" resulting in los of all addresses and archives and it was a pain in the ass and served no detectible business purpose whatsoever.

Jerry
 
Re: Re: mail bombs

Originally posted by Rocketman



But to wipe out email accounts is silly. I had a webmail account "upgraded" resulting in los of all addresses and archives and it was a pain in the ass and served no detectible business purpose whatsoever.

Jerry

Replying to myself :D

If they had a feature that downloaded all messages and addresses into a free mail program such as Free Eudora or whatever, alot of the noise would subside because whatever the outcome of pay/nopay the data would be retained erffortlessly.

Rocketman

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Get high. And fast.
 
reasons to be cheerful - part one

Its funny how guys like jobs dont seem to know that it is a problem for ordinary folks to just spend cash whenever they want. I think its becuase he is a billionaire.

I like my mac.com email address, but I wont pay $100 for it.

Like most of us, I dont use the rather useless iDisk. I have my own backup disks, and they are measured in gigs, not megs.

But I did like having my mac.com address - I have my full name at mac.com, which is always good for friends who forget your email and just take a guess.
If they offer me a $20 a year mac.com email address, I'm in, but not much more than that.

Screw stupid iDisk, and all the other crap.

I dont need every single bloody "digital lifestyle" app that Apple comes up with - I like CHOICE!

So I am not that thrilled with the announcements.

Jaguar MUST have an upgrade price - I already have 10.1.5 and a 10.1.4 disk came with my Tibook, which I purchased last week.
I mean, look: I bought the f***ing Beta, I bought the 10 final version, then I bought a new Tibook 400, then I bought the Tibook 667. I have more versions of OSX than I care to think about.

I am a loyal Apple customer - GIVE ME A F***ING BREAK HERE - UPGRADE ME TO JAGUAR FOR 29.99 OR 39.99 OR SOMETHING!

Really, the more I think about this the more pissed I get.
M$ overcharges for Orifice X, and Apple does the same thing!

All this will do is make pirate copies of Jaguar very common.

Am I right, or am I right?
 
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