Major iOS 7.1 issues

[Max(IT)]

The key point in your first paragraph is "especially in devices with faster GPUs". The iPhone 4's GPU was barely powerful enough in the first place- Apple took a GPU that did well for a 480x320 display, added a slight amount of juice to it, and put it in a phone with a 960x640 display. That's why I mentioned the 3GS-it has a very similar GPU to the 4, as opposed to the much more powerful GPU in the 4S. Seeing as how iOS heavily utilizes the GPU on a consistent basis, that's not a good thing.

I somewhat agree with your next point. Except, I don't think Apple intentionally wrote unoptimized code, they simply didn't have enough time to optimize it before the public release of iOS 7. That's probably why iOS 7.1 runs much better on the iPhone 4. Given a little more time, Apple was able to make the necessary changes to make it run smoother.

Mate, you are not going to win this ...
They are convinced Apple is ruining their customer satisfaction ON PURPOSE ... Yes a very good way to gain customer fidelity

Sunking101 is spreading fud on iOS 7 in almost every post lately.

 

[C DM]

Are you serious ? Do you actually have an iOS device ???

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Ok now I'm sure you don't have any.
According to every serious review there is NONE performance drop from iOS 6 to iOS 7 ....

Things definitely take longer on somewhat older hardware like iPhone 4 or even iPhone 4S when comparing how iOS 7 (even 7.1) runs to how iOS 6 runs.

 

[Max(IT)]

Things definitely take longer on somewhat older hardware like iPhone 4 or even iPhone 4S when comparing how iOS 7 (even 7.1) runs to how iOS 6 runs.

Are we actually speak about performance or animations speed ?

Did you read Ars Technica reive about iOS 7.1 run by iPhone 4 ?


APPLICATION IOS 6.1.3 IOS 7.0 IOS 7.1 GM
Safari 1.13 seconds 2.05 seconds 1.8 seconds
Camera 1.9 seconds 2.63 seconds 2.2 seconds
Settings 1.31 seconds 1.88 seconds 1.37 seconds
Mail 1.0 seconds 1.50 seconds 1.35 seconds
Messages 1.57 seconds 2.80 seconds 1.5 seconds
Calendar 1.23 seconds 1.78 seconds 1.37 seconds
Phone 0.67 seconds 2.37 seconds 1.83 seconds
Cold boot to lock screen 31.14 seconds 45.13 seconds 43.1 seconds

Performance changed very little going from 6.1.3 to 7.1, especially if you consider all the new things under the hood.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/03/ios-7-1-on-the-iphone-4-as-good-as-its-going-to-get/

 

[C DM]

Are we actually speak about performance or animations speed ?

Did you read Ars Technica reive about iOS 7.1 run by iPhone 4 ?


APPLICATION IOS 6.1.3 IOS 7.0 IOS 7.1 GM
Safari 1.13 seconds 2.05 seconds 1.8 seconds
Camera 1.9 seconds 2.63 seconds 2.2 seconds
Settings 1.31 seconds 1.88 seconds 1.37 seconds
Mail 1.0 seconds 1.50 seconds 1.35 seconds
Messages 1.57 seconds 2.80 seconds 1.5 seconds
Calendar 1.23 seconds 1.78 seconds 1.37 seconds
Phone 0.67 seconds 2.37 seconds 1.83 seconds
Cold boot to lock screen 31.14 seconds 45.13 seconds 43.1 seconds

Performance changed very little going from 6.1.3 to 7.1
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/03/ios-7-1-on-the-iphone-4-as-good-as-its-going-to-get/

Why not both as any and all interactions with the device impact the performance as far as it relates to how the end user perceives it. Clearly in vast majority of the cases things in iOS 7 (even 7.1) still take longer than iOS 6 for older devices. Sure, the difference is smaller in some cases, while not that small in others. Overall you can say that it's just a matter of a second or so, but that's the kind of things that do in fact make a difference in someone's experience with a mobile device. At the very least there's certainly no way to say that "NONE performance drop from iOS 6 to iOS 7" when it comes to some older devices, and perhaps even some not so old, especially when factual measured numbers clearly show that's not the case.

 

[irnchriz]

Since updating my iPhone 5 to iOS 7.1 I've had a number of problems, in descending order of exceptionally irritating:
1) The touch screen is excruciatingly flaky, from not responding at all to jumping about all over the place;
2) Keep getting a sim error, not recognised, insert sim etc it reconnects after I've eventually managed to make the thing turn off and on again (see above); and
3) There is now a row of opaque grey squares across the middle of the screen constantly, sometimes they kind've flash a bit.

I've tried a restore with no luck. It's not jail broken or anything.

Any ideas please?

:-(

If you have done a restore and setup as new it sounds like a hardware issue rather than software.

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I said the app opening and closing animations, nothing more. They are simple and I used to play games which had more demanding graphics on a pc with 16k of RAM. Ignore the screen resolution and ignore colour, do you seriously think the animation when you click on an app, and the closing animation, is impressive highly-demanding stuff? Way more demanding than anything iOS6 used to do?
I don't and besides, when I switch them off (reduce motion) my battery life is just as bad, so they can't be taxing my phone all that much.

You have a duff battery. My wife and kids get over a day of use on their iPhone 5's (3 of them) and I'm the same on my 5S.

 

[sunking101]

If you have done a restore and setup as new it sounds like a hardware issue rather than software.

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You have a duff battery. My wife and kids get over a day of use on their iPhone 5's (3 of them) and I'm the same on my 5S.

What does over a day of use equate to?
They use them non-stop for over 24hrs?
My battery checks out fine.

 

[big samm]

Sometimes i get these types of little annoying bugs, as you can see the bluetooth toggle is off but still say on, on the left panel...

 

[irnchriz]

What does over a day of use equate to?
They use them non-stop for over 24hrs?
My battery checks out fine.

Obviously not.

If you don't get a day on a charge then it's not fine. I run 5 email accounts, all with push and use 30+ hours of calls each month. I do a fair amount of browsing but little gaming (occasional bursts of threes). Lots of iMessage and a bit of faceache chat. Since 7.1 I can also run bria for VoIP connectivity to the office without the battery running out before 5pm. On 7.0.x I had to keep it plugged in when running bria as it hammered the battery.

I haven't done anything fancy with the settings, most background updates are off, location is off for time and date and iAds, diagnostics etc and the brightness is ~35-40%

Off the charger at 630am if I don't plug it in that evening then it's around 15-20% the next morning.

 

[Max(IT)]

Why not both as any and all interactions with the device impact the performance as far as it relates to how the end user perceives it. Clearly in vast majority of the cases things in iOS 7 (even 7.1) still take longer than iOS 6 for older devices. Sure, the difference is smaller in some cases, while not that small in others. Overall you can say that it's just a matter of a second or so, but that's the kind of things that do in fact make a difference in someone's experience with a mobile device. At the very least there's certainly no way to say that "NONE performance drop from iOS 6 to iOS 7" when it comes to some older devices, and perhaps even some not so old, especially when factual measured numbers clearly show that's not the case.

Did you read the article ? In most of the cases, well in almost every situation, we are not speaking about A SECOND, but a small fraction of a second, and ON AN IPHONE 4, almost four years old hardware !
Are we really speaking about performance ?
When you open Mail and it takes 1.35 sec while on iOS 6 it was 1 sec, do you really could speak about a real drop ?
Or Calendar that changed from 1.2 sec to 1.3 sec ??? Or Camera app from 1.9 to 2.2 seconds ?
C'mon mate, differences are negligible on an ancient hardware ....

 

[C DM]

Did you read the article ? In most of the cases, well in almost every situation, we are not speaking about A SECOND, but a small fraction of a second, and ON AN IPHONE 4, almost four years old hardware !
Are we really speaking about performance ?
When you open Mail and it takes 1.35 sec while on iOS 6 it was 1 sec, do you really could speak about a real drop ?
Or Calendar that changed from 1.2 sec to 1.3 sec ??? Or Camera app from 1.9 to 2.2 seconds ?
C'mon mate, differences are negligible on an ancient hardware ....

And then look at the phone app--the most basic and native of apps for an iPhone--it went from being under a second to being well over it, even with iOS 7.1 still more than a second longer than what it was in iOS 6.

The point is, again, one simply can't say there are "NONE" when it comes to pefdormance differences in iOS 7, even 7.1, and iOS 6, especially for older devices. That's basically the point. You can perhaps say that the differences for the most part can be seen as negligible for most, as you mentioned, but again, that is still not none, and there are still people who will still see their iPhone 4, for example, behave slower in their perception with iOS 7 than how it behaved with iOS 6.

Small differences can make a difference for various people when it comes to pretty much personal and often used mobile devices like iPhones. It's not anything cats strip or even major since iOS 7.1, but it can still be noticeable for some in the way they use their device daily nonetheless.

 

[Max(IT)]

And then look at the phone app--the most basic and native of apps for an iPhone--it went from being under a second to being well over it, even with iOS 7.1 still more than a second longer than what it was in iOS 6.

The point is, again, one simply can't say there are "NONE" when it comes to pefdormance differences in iOS 7, even 7.1, and iOS 6, especially for older devices. That's basically the point. You can perhaps say that the differences for the most part can be seen as negligible for most, but again, that is still not none, and there are still people who will still see their iPhone 4, for example, behave slower in their perception with iOS 7 than how it behaved with iOS 6.

Yep, phone app is perhaps the only one that took a hit in the upgrade (on old hardware at least), but I still think it will wait much longer for the user to dial or choose the contact to call
iPhone 4 user could complain ? Well, I think it's much better to have a device with the last supported os and a delay that usually is less than 0.5 seconds that being stuck with an old and no longer supported os ....
In the android world people are complaining about ONE YEAR OLD devices that won't receive the last upgrade .... what have iPhone 4's owner to whine about ???

 

[C DM]

Yep, phone app is perhaps the only one that took a hit in the upgrade (on old hardware at least), but I still think it will wait much longer for the user to dial or choose the contact to call
iPhone 4 user could complain ? Well, I think it's much better to have a device with the last supported os and a delay that usually is less than 0.5 seconds that being stuck with an old and no longer supported os ....
In the android world people are complaining about ONE YEAR OLD devices that won't receive the last upgrade .... what have iPhone 4's owner to whine about ???

Perhaps at least that iPhone 4 shouldn't have been offered iOS 7 until it was at least in the state that 7.1 finally got it to (that might even apply to pretty much all devices). And that it took a bit long to get an overall improvement like 7.1 out for everyone, probably because 7.0 was at least somewhat rushed out.

 

[Max(IT)]

Perhaps at least that iPhone 4 shouldn't have been offered iOS 7 until it was at least in the state that 7.1 finally got it to (that might even apply to pretty much all devices). And that it took a bit long to get an overall improvement like 7.1 out for everyone, probably because 7.0 was at least somewhat rushed out.

Agree on that ... But I still think most of the iPhone 4 user are very happy to have the last iOS iteration on their phone

Btw iOS 7.1 is what iOS 7.0 should have been since September 2013.

 

[dannyyankou]

I found a minor bug with the music app. When shuffling a playlist, if you tap on the list button on the top right, tap playlist, then select a song, rather than playing the song you selected, it just shuffles to a random song. Turning shuffle off is a workaround, but it's still an inconvenience nonetheless.

 

[Max(IT)]

I found a minor bug with the music app. When shuffling a playlist, if you tap on the list button on the top right, tap playlist, then select a song, rather than playing the song you selected, it just shuffles to a random song. Turning shuffle off is a workaround, but it's still an inconvenience nonetheless.

Did you report it to apple via feedback ?

 

[dannyyankou]

Did you report it to apple via feedback ?

Yes I did, I just thought I'd share it here.

 

[Jontyman]

Seems to be a battery draining bug present in the Photo Steam system daemon (mstreamd).

Seems to restart on a loop constantly regardless of whether you have Photo Stream enabled or disabled, and also regardless of whether you even have iCloud enabled on your device.

The worst part is as a system daemon it sets PreventUserIdleSystemSleep 1 which effectively means your phone won't idle down properly - I presume since it is a sync service related to iCloud it is waiting and waiting to sync (even though it is disabled).

This is what I am experiencing and it's doing my head in! The apple store was no help and is hours away.

Do you know how to fix this??? Ta!

Feel like I've tried everything, including resetting the phone as a new one, signing out of everything, etc. getting 4-5 hrs in standby off a full charge.