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Great points as well! Especially agree with you on the rippling effect that happens to LCD when force is applied. Also, just to add more fuel to the fire it appear that the iPhone 6s will have animated wallpaper a la Apple Watch. With an mLED display the only part of the display that would be on are the pixels that are lighting up thus using far less power to display the wallpaper, while with LCD the whole display lights up. Jony Ive specifically mentioned the old display tech that the iPhone uses and actually said this after the Watch was released:

The same can be said of OLED as well - that only the pixels being used illuminate? The watch was the first Apple product to use OLED. I like your arguments but I think at best we get OLED. Which will still be nice. I love the Apple watch screen.
 
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Nice post, OP!

To match Samsung's displays (the best on the current market) would be great but to surpass everyone's displays would be fantastic and as you say, completely unexpected.

With all the signs pointing to at least an OLED display it's win-WIN, the larger 'WIN' being mLED :D
 
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No way. Even on the iPhone 7 it's a stretch. According to the article you linked, the technology is not ready for anything as large as an iPhone. It'll probably be first deployed on the Watch. Secondly, it sounds like Apple would be building these in house, and we haven't heard much about a display factory that'll be gearing up for maximum output.
 
Great points as well! Especially agree with you on the rippling effect that happens to LCD when force is applied. Also, just to add more fuel to the fire it appear that the iPhone 6s will have animated wallpaper a la Apple Watch. With an mLED display the only part of the display that would be on are the pixels that are lighting up thus using far less power to display the wallpaper, while with LCD the whole display lights up. Jony Ive specifically mentioned the old display tech that the iPhone uses and actually said this after the Watch was released:

Yes, I saw all of these being announced today as well. If we see the animated wallpapers like the butterfly and koi fish ponds like there have been rumoured I think we could see a change from LCD. mLED may not be ready in time for the 6s but I'm feeling that we could see OLED come to the iPhone 6s until mLED is ready for mass production.

Jony Ive mentioning the Apple Watch and how the animated motion clock face looks magical whereas it wouldn't on an LCD seems to support at least some change to the display. This new singular flex cable being used and the sealed unit might also suggest further that the LCD screen has been replaced for something more efficient. Comments made as well on the rumour seem to also suggest that Apple wouldn't just add these animated wallpapers unless they wanted to showcase something new that wasn't there in previous iPhones. I don't think it would just be for Force Touch, and the rumours of a slightly smaller battery might also support a more efficient display, since LCDs seem to be the biggest battery drain on the iPhone currently.

Luckily it's only just under 2 weeks away from the event now, so we'll find out soon enough! I'm hoping we see the shift away from the LCD this year, since the Apple Watch display does look more aesthetically pleasing on the eye compared to my iPhone 6.
 
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Superb post and the best I have seen from a poster on this forum. It was well thought out and presented with logical reasoning.

On a side note another possible hint it could happen is the 6s are confirmed to be running a smaller battery.
 
Can that be done with the OLED screen or does it need to be MLED?

I imagine it can be done with OLED, but with mLED being much brighter and efficient.. who knows. With just standard OLED it wouldn't be any different from Snapchat on a Samsung.
 
Can that be done with the OLED screen or does it need to be MLED?

It can, but since mLED is 9 times bright than LCD or OLED it'd be able to light up your face much more than either of the other two displays could.

No way. Even on the iPhone 7 it's a stretch. According to the article you linked, the technology is not ready for anything as large as an iPhone. It'll probably be first deployed on the Watch. Secondly, it sounds like Apple would be building these in house, and we haven't heard much about a display factory that'll be gearing up for maximum output.

I brought this up in one of my previous posts in this thread. Similar things were said about the 64-bit A7. It was said it couldn't be done for a mobile phone at the time. Apple did it. The same is being said for mLED. Apple could easily be doing that as well and proving everyone one.

Superb post and the best I have seen from a poster on this forum. It was well thought out and presented with logical reasoning.

On a side note another possible hint it could happen is the 6s are confirmed to be running a smaller battery.

Aww, thanks! I thought it was interesting that no one else had even mentioned any of this or even brought it up in another thread. You're right, the smaller battery could also be another indicator as well considering this display tech is considerably more power efficient than current tech. We'll see come Sept 9th.

I'm gonna go through those patents you posted and see if find anything interesting. You can definitely tell they haven't stopped innovating that's for sure. Hell, their last patent was just published 7 days ago!

If you're right about mLED, you better get featured on the front page :)

Haha that would be nice, let's hope it's mLED!
 
Interesting catch OP. With all the recent events there does seem to be quite a few things that do point towards new screen tech coming. I definitely wouldn't have thought anything of it for an "s" release, since usually anything screen related comes on the redesigns.

The biggest thing that "could" point to you being right is the possibility of the new motion wallpapers being exclusive to the 6s and 6s+. Obviously they wouldn't be exclusive because of power (the watch does it and it's only got the power equal to an iPhone 4s.) The only other reason it could be exclusive is because of a screen, to showcase the quality.

Another thing (which has also been brought up already) is the mystery chip on the back of the display. Could be FT related or could also be mLED related (judging buy the patents linked.) There are also all those dots etched all over the back of the display (these I assume is FT related.)

So, against my better judgement, I kinda have to vote "yes". Because all the evidence is pretty compelling.
 
Interesting catch OP. With all the recent events there does seem to be quite a few things that do point towards new screen tech coming. I definitely wouldn't have thought anything of it for an "s" release, since usually anything screen related comes on the redesigns.

The biggest thing that "could" point to you being right is the possibility of the new motion wallpapers being exclusive to the 6s and 6s+. Obviously they wouldn't be exclusive because of power (the watch does it and it's only got the power equal to an iPhone 4s.) The only other reason it could be exclusive is because of a screen, to showcase the quality.

Another thing (which has also been brought up already) is the mystery chip on the back of the display. Could be FT related or could also be mLED related (judging buy the patents linked.) There are also all those dots etched all over the back of the display (these I assume is FT related.)

So, against my better judgement, I kinda have to vote "yes". Because all the evidence is pretty compelling.

Unofficially the S usually relates to something as well:
3GS - speed
4S - Siri
5S - Security (Touch ID)
6S - Screen (Force Touch, mLED/OLED?)

I guess since Touch ID was a slight design change to the 5 it's not completely impossible that the 6S could modify the display of the 6 for the better. I know the S is usually internal features, but technically the Touch ID was both internal and external, similar to how the screen is both internal and external.

The flash found in iOS9's code also suggests utilisation of the screen, and if you go by Snapchat's example the result of using the screen for flash on an LCD often results in images being washed out or oversaturated, possibly also due to the low quality front camera. Since rumours suggest they're overhauling the front facing camera I would've thought they'd go all out with the screen as well to take advantage of the upgraded camera with an OLED/mLED screen? Which would be both brighter and more efficient than using an LCD flash?
 
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Unofficially the S usually relates to something as well:
3GS - speed
4S - Siri
5S - Security (Touch ID)
6S - Screen (Force Touch, mLED/OLED?)

I guess since Touch ID was a slight design change to the 5 it's not completely impossible that the 6S could modify the display of the 6 for the better. I know the S is usually internal features, but technically the Touch ID was both internal and external, similar to how the screen is both internal and external.

The flash found in iOS9's code also suggests utilisation of the screen, and if you go by Snapchat's example the result of using the screen for flash on an LCD often results in images being washed out or oversaturated, possibly also due to the low quality front camera. Since rumours suggest they're overhauling the front facing camera I would've thought they'd go all out with the screen as well to take advantage of the upgraded camera with an OLED/mLED screen? Which would be both brighter and more efficient than using an LCD flash?

I thought it was official that the "s" on the 4 did in fact stand for Siri. But yes, it usually stands for something related to an upgrade in the device. And obviously different each time. (Soon they will have to change the letter when they run out of upgrades starting with the letter "s". Haha)

You're right about the flash too. I forgot to include that.
 
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Ah, that's another point I was gonna bring up in the OP, but forgot about it. The thing is, the same was said about Apple's 64-bit processor. People claimed it wasn't possible in a phone and then here come's Apple proving all of them wrong. I feel like a similar thing could happen with a mLED display on the 6S. That's huge speculation right there, but it wouldn't surprise me.

People said that about the 64-bit processor, but for completely different reasons. With the proc, it just seemed like no one was working on producing a 64 bit architecture, but everyone knew how to. The ARM spec is licensed out to people, including whats needed to make a 64-bit chip, and once you make your design from that fabbing it is easy since its still the same process used to fab a 32-bit proc.

With mLED, however, the manufacturing process is still very very young and untested. Its possible that Apple has perfected it enough behind closed doors, but very unlikely they'd have done it in this amount of time based on what experience I have with manufacturing displays.
 
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Micro LED would be amazing, but so would a great OLED displays. Also, it is interesting that they are holding this event a much larger venue at the Civic center. I think something big will happen with both 6s iPhones!
 
I thought it was official that the "s" on the 4 did in fact stand for Siri. But yes, it usually stands for something related to an upgrade in the device. And obviously different each time. (Soon they will have to change the letter when they run out of upgrades starting with the letter "s". Haha)

You're right about the flash too. I forgot to include that.
Schiller said in the 3GS keynote that the 'S' stood for speed, and Cook said in an interview a few weeks after launch that the 'S' in 4S stood for Siri. Not sure if the 5s was ever confirmed, but seems logical that it'd be security.
 
Micro LED would be amazing, but so would a great OLED displays. Also, it is interesting that they are holding this event a much larger venue at the Civic center. I think something big will happen with both 6s iPhones!

This is something that excites me too! The venue is much larger than the usual one, and this was also the place Apple unveiled the Apple II. Since Apple's new campus is rumoured to be ahead of schedule and possibly have the auditorium finished for 2016 then it might mean future events are held at Apple HQ, as someone has already previously mentioned on this site, this might be to pay recognition to the start of Apple and the final keynote done before they move it to the state of the art auditorium of the new campus for all future iPhone events. The 6,000 seating available being larger than previous iPhone events however does suggest that the iPhone 6s could be a huge iPhone upgrade, as does Siri's comments when you ask "Hey Siri, give us a hint" and she replies that there is a 'big announcement coming on September 9th'
 
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Another reason this doesn't make sense...OLED displays are thinner because they don't have a backlight, whereas the leaked dimensions indicate a THICKER iPhone 6S.
 
People said that about the 64-bit processor, but for completely different reasons. With the proc, it just seemed like no one was working on producing a 64 bit architecture, but everyone knew how to. The ARM spec is licensed out to people, including whats needed to make a 64-bit chip, and once you make your design from that fabbing it is easy since its still the same process used to fab a 32-bit proc.

With mLED, however, the manufacturing process is still very very young and untested. Its possible that Apple has perfected it enough behind closed doors, but very unlikely they'd have done it in this amount of time based on what experience I have with manufacturing displays.

I agree that is is very young and untested, but with Apple's money who knows how much farther along LuxVue has come in the past year. I think the main thing against them is, as you said, time. Pumping out massive quantities of a new display isn't easy especially when it's a completely different manufacturing process and doing all of that within time constraints of a year between new iPhone releases (while also continuing to innovate and perfect the display technology) is not an easy feat even for Apple.

Another reason this doesn't make sense...OLED displays are thinner because they don't have a backlight, whereas the leaked dimensions indicate a THICKER iPhone 6S.

See iphonedude2008's post below. That's likely what increases the thickness.

Due to force touch. It adds parts to the display.
 
I agree that is is very young and untested, but with Apple's money who knows how much farther along LuxVue has come in the past year. I think the main thing against them is, as you said, time. Pumping out massive quantities of a new display isn't easy especially when it's a completely different manufacturing process and doing all of that within time constraints of a year between new iPhone releases (while also continuing to innovate and perfect the display technology) is not an easy feat even for Apple.



See iphonedude2008's post below. That's likely what increases the thickness.

Experts said a year ago the technology wasn't ready for larger screens, let alone the unfathomable volume and spec that Apple requires. No such claims were made about 64-bit processing, and the two aren't analogous. There's absolutely zero chance we'll see this in the 6S. Even a switch to more traditional OLED seems unlikely.

I suspect this technology will be like Liquidmetal. It'll get speculated every year, but rumors are pretty much always unsubstantiated.
 
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