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Making a case: MicroLED Display in iPhone 6S

Do you think the iPhone 6S will get a microLED display? READ THE POST FIRST

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Benched08 said:
Experts said a year ago the technology wasn't ready for larger screens, let alone the unfathomable volume and spec that Apple requires. No such claims were made about 64-bit processing, and the two aren't analogous. There's absolutely zero chance we'll see this in the 6S. Even a switch to more traditional OLED seems unlikely.

I suspect this technology will be like Liquidmetal. It'll get speculated every year, but rumors are pretty much always unsubstantiated.
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A year prior to the release of the 64-bit A7 no one was even talking about it, so that's not really a good example to compare this too. On top of that, "experts" -- if you can even call them that -- are frequently wrong. A year is a long time in tech and a lot of advancements and improvements can be made in that time.

While mLED isn't very likely to be in the 6s, the chance of it having an OLED display is definitely there. I'd even say the chances of it having an OLED display are quite high. They're already using OLED in the Watch so why not move it to the iPhone as well. They're already taking Force Touch from the Watch and bringing it to the phone so bringing over OLED wouldn't be surprising either.
 
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SR71 said:
A year prior to the release of the 64-bit A7 no one was even talking about it, so that's not really a good example to compare this too. On top of that, "experts" -- if you can even call them that -- are frequently wrong. A year is a long time in tech and a lot of advancements and improvements can be made in that time.

While mLED isn't very likely to be in the 6s, the chance of it having an OLED display is definitely there. I'd even say the chances of it having an OLED display are quite high. They're already using OLED in the Watch so why not move it to the iPhone as well. They're already taking Force Touch from the Watch and bringing it to the phone so bringing over OLED wouldn't be surprising either.
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I think somewhere I read that for the Sport Watch they attempted to use LCD with the Ion-X Glass a la iPhone style, but the use of Force Touch on an LCD yielded problems. I can't remember where I found the article though is the problem.

I do think there was a reason to use OLED with Force Touch in the end, so I wouldn't have thought Apple would be implemented Force Touch it there was complications with an LCD panel combined with it. I think the ripple effect is probably something to do with it, because you only need press hard on a current iPhone screen to see how Force Touch would possibly affect it and wouldn't look too good, or be good on the long term for such a display.
 
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I would've thought that by the nature of LCD, the requirement of a backlight, and the fact that it bleeds light even if the pixel isn't on that OLED would be the superior technology anyway, so why not just invest and commit to OLED instead?

Granted mLEDs are 9x brighter, but does that really relate to comparible image quality against OLED?
 
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I definitely love the idea of having a display that could get both 9x brighter and consume less power.

Either way, all these rumors leave me feeling hopeful that the 6S is bringing some pretty significant updates with it.

(And also because if you say 6S really fast it sounds like SUCCESS.) ;)
 
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Brighter display
The pictures and video that users shoot with the 6S’s improved camera will look better when viewed on the phone itself. VentureBeat sources said last spring that Apple was working with a far brighter OLED screen for its next phone. We expect this to ship with the new 6S.
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http://venturebeat.com/2015/08/29/the-next-iphone-the-new-features-we-expect-to-see-september-9/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Venturebeat+(VentureBeat)

So I guess OLED is looking pretty likely now.
 
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That's amazing news. Cannot wait to upgrade from my 5s!

Finally, comfortable, low-light night reading/texting!
 
GoneDrinkin said:
That's amazing news. Cannot wait to upgrade from my 5s!

Finally, comfortable, low-light night reading/texting!
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Why is this better on an OLED screen? Never had a device with it. I use the reversed color mode in Kindle (white text on black background), that's also easier on the eyes.
 
journeyy said:
Why is this better on an OLED screen? Never had a device with it. I use the reversed color mode in Kindle (white text on black background), that's also easier on the eyes.
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OLEDs can go dimmer than LCDs. Plus with no light bleed, blacks will be pure black, not dark grey like they are currently.
 
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OLEDs can go dimmer than LCDs. Plus with no light bleed, blacks will be pure black, not dark grey like they are currently.
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Okay, hat does make sense. Btw an iPad Air 3 with OLED should be amazing :O But maybe the yields are still not satisfying for the force touch/OLED display in that size, that would explain the absence of rumors for the Air 3.
 
I would love for this technology to make it to iPhone, but it's not massively clear other than brightness and efficiency on the quality of image that this sort of image displays haha
 
Brighter screen does not mean OLED. Traditionally, Apple's LCDs have been brighter than every OLED panel except for Samsung's while using auto-brightness in direct sunlight. We've heard way more about a new LTE chip than a new display, it's a complete pipe dream to think Apple would change screen technologies on an S upgrade.
 
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Force Touch allows a device to determine varying levels of input pressure by deploying electrodes around its screen. In the Apple Watch, electrodes are deployed around the device's flexible OLED display to detect the level of deformation caused by the user's press. Levels of force are translated to user interface operations that add an extra layer of control to existing multitouch systems. Apple calls the advance its "most significant new sensing capability since Multi‑Touch."

While feasible, including Force Touch would likely require flexible display materials like the OLED panel used in Apple Watch.
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http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...nclude-force-touch-possible-pink-color-option

Perhaps force touch does require an OLED screen.
 
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I'm still skeptical, but a lot of this speculation collectively carries weight and makes new display tech plausible.

I still feel it will end up being LCD. I don't think it wise that one should specifically hope otherwise: though the speculation is good fun, and I am enjoying this thread and what may hint towards a new display tech or what refutes those hints, if you expect to see some non-LCD display on Sept 9 and it does not formulate you will only set yourself up for a disappointment of your own creation.

Best to expect LCD, continue to speculate on the display (as it is interesting!), but keep the expectations in check.
 
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GoneDrinkin said:
I would've thought that by the nature of LCD, the requirement of a backlight, and the fact that it bleeds light even if the pixel isn't on that OLED would be the superior technology anyway, so why not just invest and commit to OLED instead?

Granted mLEDs are 9x brighter, but does that really relate to comparible image quality against OLED?
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The main reasoning I could see for Apple to jump straight to mLED instead of investing in OLED is that 1.) They've already bought a company that specializes in mLED 2.) mLED is more power-efficient and brighter than OLED while also benefiting from the things that make OLED great such as vivid colors, truly black displays, etc. 3.) By using mLED they'd be able to completely leapfrog the industry and blow right past Samsung's AMOLED displays that are widely regarded as the best displays at the time.

Let's also not forget how every once in a while Apple goes against the industry and completely surprises everyone. First it was the Retina Display with the iPhone 4, then it was the 64-bit A7 processor in the 5S. With the 6S it could be mLED or OLED (I'm hoping for mLED, but even OLED would be amazing).

The Leafs Fan said:
http://venturebeat.com/2015/08/29/the-next-iphone-the-new-features-we-expect-to-see-september-9/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Venturebeat+(VentureBeat)

So I guess OLED is looking pretty likely now.
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Awesome! This is getting me very excited for the announcement. Anyone know what VentureBeat's track record is like?

nordique said:
I'm still skeptical, but a lot of this speculation collectively carries weight and makes new display tech plausible.

I still feel it will end up being LCD. I don't think it wise that one should specifically hope otherwise: though the speculation is good fun, and I am enjoying this thread and what may hint towards a new display tech or what refutes those hints, if you expect to see some non-LCD display on Sept 9 and it does not formulate you will only set yourself up for a disappointment of your own creation.

Best to expect LCD, continue to speculate on the display (as it is interesting!), but keep the expectations in check.
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Well said. I'm banking on them going with LCD, but have high hopes for OLED and a bit of hope for mLED. Plus it'd be kinda nice to be the first person to suspect the use of mLED in the 6S (that is if they actually do end up using it).
 
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man mled would be killer on the iphone 6s, however i think it'll be with the 7, new hardware, new screen technology, probably to support a bump in resolution while still being efficient. Maybe a 1080p 7/1440p 7 plus with mled screen to offset the resolution.

but kudos to this thread and i hope i'm wrong. The s series has been known to surprise us and either this could be true or maybe there's a really nice feature w/force touch we're not aware of yet. The 5s with 64 bit/touch id was imo a great upgrade from the 5. I hope the same for the 6s. Honestly there's a lot of competition now, very good competition at relatively cheaper pricepoints so it'd be nice to see a significant upgrade.
 
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The Leafs Fan said:
Well back in June of last year they got a lot of things right about the iPhone 6 (http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/06/a...rging-better-4g-antenna-a-much-bigger-screen/). As for their overall record, I'm not too sure about that.
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Sweet, it appears their track record is pretty good. Let's hope they're right about OLED (although mLED would be better).

I7guy said:
I'm thinking oled is coming in the iPhone 7 not the 6s.
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What makes you think that? I don't mean to sound argumentative, I'm truly curious.

Truefan31 said:
man mled would be killer on the iphone 6s, however i think it'll be with the 7, new hardware, new screen technology, probably to support a bump in resolution while still being efficient. Maybe a 1080p 7/1440p 7 plus with mled screen to offset the resolution.

but kudos to this thread and i hope i'm wrong. The s series has been known to surprise us and either this could be true or maybe there's a really nice feature w/force touch we're not aware of yet. The 5s with 64 bit/touch id was imo a great upgrade from the 5. I hope the same for the 6s. Honestly there's a lot of competition now, very good competition at relatively cheaper pricepoints so it'd be nice to see a significant upgrade.
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You raise some good points and while it is more likely that a display change will happen with the 7, as you said, the S model's are known to have a few surprises. Let's hope OLED or mLED is onofe them.
 
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SR71 said:
Sweet, it appears their track record is pretty good. Let's hope they're right about OLED (although mLED would be better).



What makes you think that? I don't mean to sound argumentative, I'm truly curious.



You raise some good points and while it is more likely that a display change will happen with the 7, as you said, the S model's are known to have a few surprises. Let's hope OLED or mLED is onofe them.
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Apple seems to focus more on internal improvements for the "s" rather than external improvements. The display is an external improvement.
 
I7guy said:
Apple seems to focus more on internal improvements for the "s" rather than external improvements. The display is an external improvement.
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The new 7000 series case and strengthening is an external improvement is it not?
 
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