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Why not? If you have to ask 'why' you aren't its target market. Why the hate for offering choice?

Damn right I'm not the target market :D

You know what, as soon I can change my music from inside the pool and use it to go swimming I will buy one..... So, maybe I think instead of concentrating on making a version for tools, they could have worked on features a little more.
 
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i wonder what initial stock will be like? I know it will be sold out but how bad.
This launch is getting weirder and weirder as the days go by.

The guided tours page isn't been updated with new videos. Are people talking about the watch? Was it big deal on twitter with Pharrell wearing it on the voice the other night?
 
Honestly, if I can't get it on launch day I will be holding off until I can get one refurbished from Apple or 2nd gen.

What a mess having so many different versions makes. How about just the 2 sizes in 2 colors for each tier watch and you sell all the stupid bands separately from the get go.

The gold one will be discontinued in 2-3 months any way.

I also think the gold one will be discontinued, probably not as soon as you stated, more likely there won't be a 2nd Gen. Apple Watch in gold. I'm sure Apple will drop a few other colors/styles as they learn what most customers want.
 
Apple have messed up.

"Early 2015"?

The September announcement was surely to allow a few months for hype to build but for me and a lot of people I've spoken to the "hype" has fizzled out, it's been too long.

And those reviews... Can't remember such a bleak set of reviews for a new Apple product.

But of course they're gonna sell millions and it won't matter for them. And of course I'm going to buy one still.

Sigh.

Sigh... me too and I won't get up at 2am to order so I don't mind waiting.

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And Tim Cook will continue to be called a "supply chain genius", even though the evidence for the past few years has been quite the opposite, as least far as product launch quantities and mixes go.

The past few years were all records for Apple and Tim Cook was the man of the year for Time Magazine. Whatever Apple is doing with customers buying is working so we really have no opinion that they would consider. They are a publicly traded company with the largest market cap and insane profits and cash.

Steve was the man and Tim Cook has been great! As a shareholder, I am very very happy. Started purchasing Apple stock in 2004/2005.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that even if the Watch is a complete flop, Apple will go on happily with 100s of billions of dollars in the bank and still be the most valuable company on earth.

Yep! :) It's because their products are the best quality. I would never buy a different brand of laptop or phone. The craftsmanship is second to none.

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I think we might be reaching here. Just because some app in some country shows those lead times, doesn't mean a lot.

It will come down to what it actually says on the day when you can actually order.

They are probably just testing the system.

You just make too much sense for these forums. :) I also agree with you.
 
Apple is a US based company. Therefore Americans get preferred treatment.

I don't agree. The US historically and still today gets preferential treatment because it is Apples biggest single market, with the most developed retail and distribution network. This preferential treatment has reduced in the last few years and will continue to do so. Once the Chinese market starts fulfilling it's potential, the preferential treatment will reduce even further.

As for pricing, once you take off government taxes, the cost difference is not normally that big, much of which can be accounted for in the cost of doing business (rental, employee costs, social obligations etc.)

Itunes and the various other digital services do lag behind significantly outside the US. This though is due to the very complicated and fragmented rights issues outside of the US. We can only blame Apple so much for this.
 
'favouriting' model - could this be more than it seems

So - I had this theory when Apple allowed you to favourite your Apple Watch model on their website - and in the app.

I thought that Apple would be able to monitor those 'flags' and get an indication of what models people are interested in, so they can see where to allocate stock - and how much stock to allocate.

I know it's not 100% accurate - and sales can't be assessed on this but it would give them a fair indicator of demographics a while before launch date.

No?
 
This is just Apple marketing at their best. The leaked dates was planned so that people start stressing and worrying so instead of waiting to order they order straight away (and make it seem like a much better launch)
 
So - I had this theory when Apple allowed you to favourite your Apple Watch model on their website - and in the app.

I thought that Apple would be able to monitor those 'flags' and get an indication of what models people are interested in, so they can see where to allocate stock - and how much stock to allocate.

I know it's not 100% accurate - and sales can't be assessed on this but it would give them a fair indicator of demographics a while before launch date.

No?

Sounds very plausible to me. While not perfect, it would at least give Apple a guide as to the likely distribution of actual orders. Apple would have been mad not to have incorporated this somehow into their production and logistics planning, if only for the straps bundled into the box?
 
Sounds like the AppleWatch should have been real released a month or 2 later when inventory is more plentiful
 
It would seem that Apple have removed all delivery related text from the favourites section. It's now blank under the price; where it used to state 'Dispatch: currently unavailable'.

I, for one, am eager to get a watch so I hope this was just a slight mistake or a clever marketing trick.

Fingers crossed. Roll on Friday Morning!
 
Apple have messed up.

"Early 2015"?

The September announcement was surely to allow a few months for hype to build but for me and a lot of people I've spoken to the "hype" has fizzled out, it's been too long.

And those reviews... Can't remember such a bleak set of reviews for a new Apple product.

But of course they're gonna sell millions and it won't matter for them. And of course I'm going to buy one still.

Sigh.

Remember the reviews for the first iPhone? I seem to remember a lot of "it'll never take off because it lacks a keyboard".

I wouldn't take the reviews so seriously, the takeaway should really be that even with its flaws, it's still the best smart watch in the world.

23 hours and counting!!
 
Same old story - delays, production problems and another long wait. Might get one by Christmas if I'm lucky.
 
as much as I'd love that, I think it's possibly the most unApple idea to be posted on here.

I do feel it might very well be like the appleTv and hardware changes being fewer between, this may be the model for 2-3 years with software changes being the only prominent upgrades

As much as we'd all prefer to get as much life as possible out of these, nearly every review is saying the Apple Watch is underpowered. A new model next year is all but guaranteed.
 
To be fair this is something completely new for Apple, and Cook is a man of strategy. He could have not have the faintest idea how big the demand would be, I trust him to sort shortages very soon. I was always keen to get one, but I suppose nobody at Apple could foresee how big or small demand would be. My gut feeling is that in the beginning demand will be high, but will drop fairly fast in anticipation of the next generation. On this occasion I will buy the first generation, and I will go for a cheapish band with the stainless steel Watch.
 
NOW we see the real reason Apple suddenly doesn't want lines at their stores. Product unavailability. And the more diverse the product line, the less Apple seems able to meet demand.

I'll share my last couple of iPhone launch experiences. In Australia, not a big market, often the first place Apple stuff goes on sale, and adjacent to Asia, scalpers can be an issue.

The iPhone 5 launch, the store I frequent had about 500 in line, buying up to 6 phones each & I felt silly buying only 1. At least there was stock, but the 5c had been on sale for a while, so the *new* product line was limited.

As you remember the 6 Plus was extremely limited supply, even pre-ordered it was delivered at least a week after the launch date. When I arrived at the store at 4am there were 1000 in line, scalpers from 2 days before at the front and everyone I spoke with had pre-ordered, received their ship date (next month) and was there to see if they could get something on-the-day.

About an hour before doors opened staff began giving out cards representing available stock to those at the beginning of the line. Half an hour before the doors opened, staff walked up and down the line letting everyone know that 64GB 6 Plus was already sold out. EXTREMELY limited supply on launch day. If any at all, really.

And the stories began to fill the media - no stock for those lining up. Suddenly lines at Apple Stores turn into -bad- publicity.

2015 and the Watch launches with (I believe Ive is quoted as saying) a million combinations. This is a supply nightmare for the pressure cooker of first day sales.

Realistically, most will just get a sport of the size and colour they want and take the bands supplied. We don't even know if the band you buy this year will be compatible with the watch you buy next year. So you want to be sure you can drop $500 on a band and not care if it's out of date next year. This is fashion after all.

This is a consumable item. The first generation will be a little iffy, so you'll want to get second or third generation as well and maybe hand down the initial watch to a relative.

This is a new era for Apple, and for the buying public. The Watch will go out of fashion quicker than a phone.
If you're prepared to drop $10,000 on a watch every year, then you're the target market for the Edition.
If you're prepared to drop $1000 on a watch every year for an Apple Watch, then you're the target market for Apple Watch.
If you just want to get in the technology, or need a different watch for sports, then you'll be getting the Sport, maybe upgrading every year or two, depending on technology, not fashion.

Apple wants stores to show off the watch, generate interest, let people see how it can help their daily lives. Get interested in all the fashion bands available, then buy the Sport (or whatever suits) and come back later to buy bands on an ongoing basis.

Having a particular Watch and band combination available to buy, day one, is a supply chain nightmare infinitely greater than the iPhone 6/6 Plus which was a publicity disaster.

Truth be told, in my example iPhone 6 Plus launch day, 1000 people should have left that queue when they were told there were no more 64GB 6 Pluses for sale. I did. I went there to confirm my theory that there was no stock and there pretty well wasn't. Those that I spoke with that stayed in the line, were either in denial or willing to take whatever they could get, not their preference.

You bet Apple wants interest high and expectation of receiving product low. That's how it's going to be.

For the record. I believe the Watch will be bigger than iPhone. All the pundits and commentators have missed the point. This isn't for them, this is for the ordinary people who don't care about tech or iOS upgrades, they just want the device that does the job for them. There are generations of consumers out there who've never worn a watch. There are kids out there who will be sending squiggles to each other all day long, just because they can. This really is something new and it's silly and properly useful. And it will sell millions a month once people get their hands on them.
 
I'm starting to wonder if Apple just did a limited production run for the first batch to see how and what sells.
 
What's wrong with you guys?? Does U.S. always has to get special treatment? Can someone explain to me why I should be treated worse than U.S. customer?



I'm not sure what makes this precedent OK (other than because Apple is a US company #patriotism #murica) but I don't think they're the only or the first company to do this. Don't Sony and some of the other Japan tech companies sometimes release products first to Japan? Car companies do this, making a model available in their home countries sometimes years before they export, although sometimes there are legal/regulatory reasons for this.
 
The Apple 1 cost $666.66 back in July 1976.
That is $2,908.55 in today's dollars.
Jobs garage computer was not cheap either. Apple has always catered for quality and priced their products accordingly. Apple have never sold anything cheaply

Facts are hard for posters with an agenda. I did have to smile at the quality remark though. :)
 
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