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I just tried deleting the maps app and tried opening maps://somewhere in safari. An alert popped up asking if I wanted to open the link in maps, I clicked open and nothing happened. So this needs some work.
 
Not the same at all. Deleting an app like Notes implies you delete all the data it has stored, and a user won't be able to restore an app (probably a critical one like Mail) without an internet connection. Wondering who was in charge of that move.

Probably not the best example as Mail is useless without an Internet connection anyway

You're massively over dramatising the entire situation and making it overly complicated, when it's not. It's mirroring the experience with ALL other apps on the device. If someone deletes an app, they know they have lost that data, whether it be 3rd party or not. Pretty much all have cloud based data, like notes, mail, etc.

But what's the point point if when you want to use maps or mail and apple forces you to re-install their apps again.

What are you really gaining?

They're not forcing you to reinstall, you can use others, it's just that, right now, there's no contingency for the third party automation (for now it's a manual thing), but that's not to say that there's nothing in the sessions at WWDC to account for this, which is probably why it wasn't in the keynote.
 
It's mirroring the experience with ALL other apps on the device. If someone deletes an app, they know they have lost that data, whether it be 3rd party or not. Pretty much all have cloud based data, like notes, mail, etc.

They're not forcing you to reinstall, you can use others, it's just that, right now, there's no contingency for the third party automation (for now it's a manual thing), but that's not to say that there's nothing in the sessions at WWDC to account for this, which is probably why it wasn't in the keynote.
Nope. Some stock apps still can't and won't be ever removed. Inconsistent behaviour. Hiding would solve all of the issues.
 
Hi all,

Is it possible to swap control center toggles? Like if I want mobile data toggle instead of Rotation lock or lets say any other setting?
 
Nope. Some stock apps still can't and won't be ever removed. Inconsistent behaviour. Hiding would solve all of the issues.

Off hand, I thought almost all were on the list. Apart from Phone and Messages. What ones an k missing?

Hiding is inconsistent. Do you hide or remove third party apps? That there is the answer to consistency.
 
its so funny to see so many people wanting to delete the mail app. The mail app downloads the message as it arrives and I am able to see content and old mails offline without an internet connection. The Gmail app doesnt seem to have that functionality unless someone can correct me
 
Nope. Some stock apps still can't and won't be ever removed. Inconsistent behaviour. Hiding would solve all of the issues.
And they wouldn't be allowed to be hidden similarly. So what all issues would be solved?
 
Argh... I was hoping this might be a solution for those of us with iOS devices purchased in certain countries who don't allow Apple to sell things with FaceTime installed.

Ironically, we can download Skype or other VOIP apps, but FaceTime isn't accessible in the App Store yet.

Agreed that whole policy is silly
 
its so funny to see so many people wanting to delete the mail app. The mail app downloads the message as it arrives and I am able to see content and old mails offline without an internet connection. The Gmail app doesnt seem to have that functionality unless someone can correct me
You have missed the point I was trying to make.

I was asking IF mail was removed could you use something else by default.

As the answer seems to be no it's kind of pointless being able to delete the stock apps.
 
You have missed the point I was trying to make.

I was asking IF mail was removed could you use something else by default.

As the answer seems to be no it's kind of pointless being able to delete the stock apps.

We're in a beta of a new iOS, it could be that there's something to change that behaviour, but it's not been explained yet. WWDC is not just the Keynote yesterday, there's sessions all this week, so maybe there's some way for third party apps to fill the void, in the same way you can choose to open links in chrome instead of Safari.

Or it might get pulled before public beta and released with 10.1
 
You can change the default apps, and not have to use the original apps bundled with it.
You can use Google Maps for example, rather than Apple Maps.

If I understand you correctly, in iOS 10, you can "delete" Apple Maps (only in quotes because we now know it doesn't actually remove the app from the device -- only the user data and the hooks to the app are removed); and if you have Google Maps installed, you can then set it to be the default app when you ask Siri for directions? Please tell me that's the case.

If I remove Apple Maps and have Google Maps installed, I would prefer if I could then simply ask Siri for directions to a location like I do today and it would launch Google Maps automatically and input the address or the POI search into Google Maps automatically.

What I'm afraid is going to happen instead if I remove Apple Maps and have Google Maps installed is that I'm going to have to be careful to make sure I mention "Google Maps" in the Siri request or else it's going to prompt me to reinstall Apple Maps to get directions. I'll eventually train myself to mention "Google Maps" in every request for directions but it's going to take a little bit of conditioning.
 
From what I've read the system will prompt you to re-install maps, mail etc so the fact that you can remove them becomes entirely pointless.

Another good Apple idea that is implemented poorly.
 
If I understand you correctly, in iOS 10, you can "delete" Apple Maps (only in quotes because we now know it doesn't actually remove the app from the device -- only the user data and the hooks to the app are removed); and if you have Google Maps installed, you can then set it to be the default app when you ask Siri for directions? Please tell me that's the case.

If I remove Apple Maps and have Google Maps installed, I would prefer if I could then simply ask Siri for directions to a location like I do today and it would launch Google Maps automatically and input the address or the POI search into Google Maps automatically.

What I'm afraid is going to happen instead if I remove Apple Maps and have Google Maps installed is that I'm going to have to be careful to make sure I mention "Google Maps" in the Siri request or else it's going to prompt me to reinstall Apple Maps to get directions. I'll eventually train myself to mention "Google Maps" in every request for directions but it's going to take a little bit of conditioning.

Google's developers can use the new Siri API to be able to use Google Maps.
 
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