If you can find them. Trying to find Apple apps using search in iTunes is very difficult in my experience.
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Many Preinstalled iOS Apps Such as 'Stocks' Now Deletable in iOS 10
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If you can find them. Trying to find Apple apps using search in iTunes is very difficult in my experience.
It's quite easy. Search for Apple then view their apps as a developer.
Although you'll only see the stock apps if you're in iOS 10 beta currently.
i did. article was updated to include tips after i posted that comment.
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Hey everyone, I tried to search through this thread but I don't think anyone mentioned it. The apps aren't actually deleted, they're just hidden. You can test this yourself by deleting an app, then go to the app page in the AppStore, turn on airplane mode, and still download them instantly.
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Sorry guys but there's no Night mode
iPhone 7 exclusive feature. OLED screen only.
Not the same at all. Deleting an app like Notes implies you delete all the data it has stored, and a user won't be able to restore an app (probably a critical one like Mail) without an internet connection. Wondering who was in charge of that move.
Sure, as is the case for other apps, aside from content that is in the cloud basically. People wanted to be able to get rid of stock apps, and Apple provided that as close to the level of how it works with pretty much any other app as it could reasonably be.
Not all content is in the cloud. Some stock apps are essential and considering that and the fact that all of those apps take as little as 150 Mb in space there's no point in such feature as deleting. It's a no brainer to allow a user to hide and show stock apps if he really needs to hide it.
The best way to implement this could be just a toggle in Settings for bundled apps, without any delete icon at all. Those who really want to hide it would easily find it, the other users just wouldn't mess with it.
To get more complaints from users that it's not really "deleting" them and that it's not as simple as it should be as it is with other apps. Seems simpler and more straightforward for Apple to do it the way they did it which would give less room for those types of people to complain. Certainly nothing horrific or dumb there.
I doubt there would be any real complaints if you could hide those apps.
But now they'll get much more and this time serious complaints from a lot more people who'll delete stock apps without thinking and then realize some default functionality/data is missing.
Given that it will work about the same as it does and has been with other apps (in addition to more of that data being in the cloud more often), it's not all that likely that that will result in much complaining.
It will result due to the mentioned reasons. At the very least it will result in a confusion of a lot of users. Some apps are still not deletable, some are, some can't be replaced by 3rd party ones despite being deletable, it's a messy implementation. It's a more serious issue for much more people than when some were complaining they can't delete some stock apps. Hiding apps would solve all the issues and make everyone happy on either side. Happy those who want to hide them, happy those who don't (and they won't delete it on occasion or by error), happy Apple without any complaints and whining. Also hiding will allow to hide even those apps that can't be deleted for some reasons (and with the current implementation will stay on the user's screen).
1. With deletable stock apps users can lose their data.
2. Deleting won't free any real space.
3. People complaining about stock apps actually just want to hide it, so they don't see it on the screen anymore.
4. Some apps still can't be deleted.
5. Some can't be replaced by 3rd party apps despite can be deleted.
Everything screams here that allowing users to delete stock apps is a call for problems and confusion. The most elegant solution is allowing users to hide a stock app via Settings.
I'm also almost sure at least some of those "deletable" apps will actually be hidden since tied too much to the system, so it's a hack and just adds more confusion to a user. A user can delete and reinstall a stock app and gets his data back - inconsistent and misleading behavior. He can delete and reinstall in airplane mode (as someone reported here already) - again, very confusing behavior. But even if this is not true and apps are truly deleted all the points above still apply.
I'll stop discussing here
, I think the logic is pretty strong.
Argh... I was hoping this might be a solution for those of us with iOS devices purchased in certain countries who don't allow Apple to sell things with FaceTime installed.
Ironically, we can download Skype or other VOIP apps, but FaceTime isn't accessible in the App Store yet.
Exactly. The way they did it here is less confusing to the average joe. They think, "I want to get rid of this app icon". How do you normally get rid of an app icon? Long press, tap the x, delete the app.
They're not going to think, I want to get rid of this app, but this app is a default app preinstalled on the iPhone and made by Apple. Let me go into settings and toggle the app icon instead of how I normally remove an app.
It's pretty hard to "accidentally" delete an app. Now, someone might want something like Gmail or Google Maps as their default app and intentionally get rid of the stock Apple one, that's where it can cause issues if its a "core" app like Mail or Maps that's normally integrated/linked to in many places across the OS. Obviously this is just the first beta so Apple still has plenty of time to change how to handle situations like that. Perhaps this is indeed a precursor to a later release that will allow third party default apps.
Well, if you allow users to delete the Mail app let's say, you have to write in all sorts of stuff about what to default to when a mail action is triggered, or ask the user to install a mail app is non are available ect.
I can't believe you can uninstall mail and even if you have another mail app installed the system still forces you you reinstall mail to use email features.
Hardly any point in being unable to uninstall it in the first place.
Same thing can probably be said about the other apps.
Hardly any point in being unable to uninstall it in the first place.
Same thing can probably be said about the other apps.
They may be allowing you to remove stock apps you'll never use but they still want to control your experience. Default third party apps will be a tough call for Apple. They'd be doing it reluctantly, if at all.