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Maps is already improving?

kemo said:
You made me laugh, but because what you said is funny (it isn't by the way), but because I'll never get the people who instead of being thankful for a chance to play with beta product before just this kind of thing. It's not a final version - it's coming this FALL, and there is "plenty" of time to improve map data so it will be usable like Google's Maps are. :):)
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Thanks Apple for making a crap product!

Happy now?
 
Cybbe said:
I don't think anyone questions if it will be usable or not. The real question is if it's going to be better or worse than the fairly refined offering from Google Maps, in particular outside of the US. Regression, of it happens, will be a problem. This is also why people care so much; maps are not a gimmick, they are likely one of the most user apps.
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This is what, a beta product.. not yet released... Google's had, what? 6 years to develop google maps.... just saying.
 
garybUK said:
This is what, a beta product.. not yet released... Google's had, what? 6 years to develop google maps.... just saying.
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And why should I care? Come fall all I care about is if the maps are as good as I had before, including in the territories I frequent (various European countries, parts of Asia). I don't care how long the product has been on the market, I only care how good it is. Apple doesn't get a pass for being late to the game.

But hey, it could be just as good. If it isn't a lot of people will become grumpy.
 
Cybbe said:
And why should I care? Come fall all I care about is if the maps are as good as I had before, including in the territories I frequent (various European countries, parts of Asia). I don't care how long the product has been on the market, I only care how good it is. Apple doesn't get a pass for being late to the game.

But hey, it could be just as good. If it isn't a lot of people will become grumpy.
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The good part is that you can always get google maps thru the browser or perhaps an iOS app. Or, if you are that unhappy there are other phones.
 
MooneyFlyer said:
The good part is that you can always get google maps thru the browser or perhaps an iOS app. Or, if you are that unhappy there are other phones.
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Browser is not an option. App is (if it ever appears), other phones are.
 
MooneyFlyer said:
The good part is that you can always get google maps thru the browser or perhaps an iOS app. Or, if you are that unhappy there are other phones.
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But what about all the apps that present maps using MapKit? They will all be using Apples maps with no real option to switch back
 
Cybbe said:
And why should I care? Come fall all I care about is if the maps are as good as I had before, including in the territories I frequent (various European countries, parts of Asia). I don't care how long the product has been on the market, I only care how good it is. Apple doesn't get a pass for being late to the game.

But hey, it could be just as good. If it isn't a lot of people will become grumpy.
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I agree, i think we should all hold off judgement until they release it... personally i have a seperate Tom Tom app, the google maps was beyond useless.... but I agree if they want to compete they need competitive maps.

But I have used the Beta version in a real world situation, and whilst missing some things (like speed limit indicators, speed cameras etc.) it performed very well and was very easy to see the maps.
 
Cybbe said:
I don't think anyone questions if it will be usable or not. The real question is if it's going to be better or worse than the fairly refined offering from Google Maps, in particular outside of the US. Regression, of it happens, will be a problem. This is also why people care so much; maps are not a gimmick, they are likely one of the most user apps.
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There's no question there will be a way to access Google Maps on iOS.

Most likely through an app, but even via the web is possible.

But really, I don't think Apple's maps are bad at all. The only drawback in the experience in in transit planning, but then Apple's solution is also much more flexible: for example, if I'm planning a journey from Paris to Berlin, the new Maps should (in theory) be able to show me:

- flights
- coaches
- trains
- driving directions
- whatever other modes of transport are listed in the AppStore

The only drawback is the user experience: you get shown a list of apps and have to select one to pass it the route information. What would be better is a way for the apps to query their backend services and present hosted views in the maps app.
 
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Apple, as a commercial company, need make strategical decisions on all aspects of their products. It is clear that dumping g**gle map is one of them. Those who do not like Apple's in-house map solution despite a beta product before release certainly have a choice of either switching to Android or waiting for their beloved standalone g**gle map.
 
Parise said:
Why are they always "fandroid" trolls? Couldnt they just be concerned apple consumers?

Christ, you guys need to stop playing that card.
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Maybe because only a troll or someone not understanding the word "Beta" would compare a "consumer released product" to a "Beta" which are you:cool:
 
garybUK said:
I agree, i think we should all hold off judgement until they release it... personally i have a seperate Tom Tom app, the google maps was beyond useless.... but I agree if they want to compete they need competitive maps.
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I'm not talking about turn-by-turn. TomTom is useless for anything but driving.

Saladinos said:
But really, I don't think Apple's maps are bad at all. The only drawback in the experience in in transit planning, but then Apple's solution is also much more flexible: for example, if I'm planning a journey from Paris to Berlin, the new Maps should (in theory) be able to show me:
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Map quality is pretty important, and the real test is once the full OS is released. And you don't seriously suggest that anyone would find it useful to get flight suggestions alongside their local bus routes via their Maps app, do you? You are solving a problem that doesn't exist.
 

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Is there a way to shrink down or remove completely, that ugly green box with turn distance? I want to see the map not a fugly sign.

I'd rather listen to the turn than that.

Thanks
 
BuckeyeMac said:
Is there a way to shrink down or remove completely, that ugly green box with turn distance? I want to see the map not a fugly sign.

I'd rather listen to the turn than that.

Thanks
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Bump this.

And what does turn by turn look like in landscape mode?
 
I don't know if this was always available but when you look at Chicago now with the standard view, you can see white ghost figures of the 3D buildings
 
Cool. I guess we can expect that map layers to continue to change/improve before final release.
 
Brazuca said:
Pic or it didn't happen.
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They don't appear to be quite right yet, see pics of Vegas. Though, I do like how the 3D buildings in standard mode rise out of the ground when you zoom in.
 

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applebro24 said:
They don't appear to be quite right yet, see pics of Vegas. Though, I do like how the 3D buildings in standard mode rise out of the ground when you zoom in.
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I see what they did. The "3D" building shapes are basically a raised footprint of any of the ground buildings. On your pictures, you can see that the little "houses" on the right image create a full-height 3D model.

Too much automation, I guess.

It would be nice to have some transparency. Maybe as an option?
 
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