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Santabean2000 said:
So true. I thought they were on the right track, but then they realsed the Apple Watch(es). All style and no substance.

Apple is missing someone with the balls to call it how it is; kill the fluff and get that zeroed-in focus.
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You have to remember that EVERY Apple product launch has been met with this kind of talk. Even the ipod, even the iphone, DEFINITELY the ipad -- and on this very site, too.
 
Kind of getting creepy how Apple execs are taking modeling pictures. I seriously think they are getting so full of themselves that they are going to destroy themselves. This is how companies lose touch with reality and competition. Through self-worship
 
Santabean2000 said:
So true. I thought they were on the right track, but then they realsed the Apple Watch(es). All style and no substance.

Apple is missing someone with the balls to call it how it is; kill the fluff and get that zeroed-in focus.
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I'm curious when you got your hands on an :apple:Watch to make the determination its all style and no substance?
 
2ms said:
Look how self-absorbed they look. Apple isn't about the product anymore since Jobs left. Cook and Ive may think it is. But in actuality it's all about them now. Everyone's faces and names front and center, the products almost secondary.

And look at how badly everything is falling apart. The sad thing is that I get no sense that Cook and Co even realize what the problém is. They seem to be focused on solar power plants and gold-plated doodads marketed by celebrities. Practically the complete opposite of what Jobs would have ever done.

Apple became who they were by doing the things the way Jobs thought they should be done. Now they've done a 180.
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Let's be clear...

- Ive was exactly the same when Jobs was around.
- The reason names and faces are front and centre is thanks to the explosion of the connected society. The internet and social media over the last 5 years has exploded - Apple can't move without it being reported on heavily. Not to mention they are now the one of the biggest companies on the planet. The world is different now.
- Apple has it's strongest ever line-up of products - reviews, sales, customer satisfaction, profits - pick a metric and they are flying.
- As a long time Apple user I know how bad things were in the 90's. Hell even at the turn of the Millennium when one of the worst ever new OSes was released - OS X Cheetah. If you think the few bugs in iOS 8 is bad and shows how things are falling apart you're either trolling or were not an Apple user pre-iPhone. It was not all roses back then - it was a times really, really poor.
- iOS 8 is finally adding much needed extensibility in a secure way. I absolutely love it. And I'm really looking forward to Yosemite to help tie mobile and desktop together even tighter.
- Apple still care about your privacy more than the main competition.
- I'm glad Apple care about the environment. Caring about the environment doesn't mean they stop focussing on the products. The 2 can be done in parallel.
- You get no sense that "Cook and Co even realize what the problém is". 1. What problem? 2. How about when things went wrong with Maps and heads rolled. How about realising the mistake with Browett and firing him early on.

I could go on...

If you think Apple is falling apart I'm sure you will be shorting AAPL stock to become a very wealthy man.
 
Maybe Newsom can fix the F'up iOS 8.0.2 release on my now, slow as hell and unreliable iPad Gen3.

Apple is resembling Microsoft more and more every day.
 
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Ive is entering the World Arm Wrestling Championships in 2015 and needed a sparring partner?
 
Jakexb said:
You have to remember that EVERY Apple product launch has been met with this kind of talk. Even the ipod, even the iphone, DEFINITELY the ipad -- and on this very site, too.
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Apple has clearly entered the fashion industry. It is an industry fraught with failures and regrets.
 
I would have answered: he is hired to design a very nice toilet on the space campus so that Jony can take a good poop.
I mean come on, Apple is a secretive company, ask something else.
 
joesuburb said:
Kind of getting creepy how Apple execs are taking modeling pictures. I seriously think they are getting so full of themselves that they are going to destroy themselves. This is how companies lose touch with reality and competition. Through self-worship
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Nonsense!! I'm sure their feet are firmly on the ground and that they'll continue releasing relevant meaningful devices for ordinary joes like Tim Cooke, Bono and Kim Kardashian :p
 
Keane16 said:
Let's be clear...

- Ive was exactly the same when Jobs was around.
- The reason names and faces are front and centre is thanks to the explosion of the connected society. The internet and social media over the last 5 years has exploded - Apple can't move without it being reported on heavily. Not to mention they are now the one of the biggest companies on the planet. The world is different now.
- Apple has it's strongest ever line-up of products - reviews, sales, customer satisfaction, profits - pick a metric and they are flying.
- As a long time Apple user I know how bad things were in the 90's. Hell even at the turn of the Millennium when one of the worst ever new OSes was released - OS X Cheetah. If you think the few bugs in iOS 8 is bad and shows how things are falling apart you're either trolling or were not an Apple user pre-iPhone. It was not all roses back then - it was a times really, really poor.
- iOS 8 is finally adding much needed extensibility in a secure way. I absolutely love it. And I'm really looking forward to Yosemite to help tie mobile and desktop together even tighter.
- Apple still care about your privacy more than the main competition.
- I'm glad Apple care about the environment. Caring about the environment doesn't mean they stop focussing on the products. The 2 can be done in parallel.
- You get no sense that "Cook and Co even realize what the problém is". 1. What problem? 2. How about when things went wrong with Maps and heads rolled. How about realising the mistake with Browett and firing him early on.

I could go on...

If you think Apple is falling apart I'm sure you will be shorting AAPL stock to become a very wealthy man.
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I agree with you. History is repeating itself. All of Apple's success came when they were doing things Steve Jobs way, and they've gone to hell 100% of the time someone else has come along and thought their own completely different way would somehow be superior.

It's basically always idiocy to take a formula for success and go 180 on it. Especially when you are talking about both the most innovative and most successful company in its category in history. The fact that someone would go and do that when it has already been proven to be a recipe for disaster before is truly astonishing. "The definition of insanity" and all that.

Get Cook outta there. I'll go so far as to say that Forstall is looking like he might even be some kind of solution right now. If it's the guy who had the gonads to stand up to what is happening in Apple right now, then maybe he's the one they need to have running things.
 
2ms said:
I agree with you. History is repeating itself. All of Apple's success came when they were doing things Steve Jobs way, and they've gone to hell 100% of the time someone else has come along and thought their own completely different way would somehow be superior.

It's basically always idiocy to take a formula for success and go 180 on it. Especially when you are talking about both the most innovative and most successful company in its category in history. The fact that someone would go and do that when it has already been proven to be a recipe for disaster before is truly astonishing. "The definition of insanity" and all that.

Get Cook outta there. I'll go so far as to say that Forstall is looking like he might even be some kind of solution right now. If it's the guy who had the gonads to stand up to what is happening in Apple right now, then maybe he's the one they need to have running things.
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What exactly has Apple gone 180 on? And don't forget the people running the show were put in there by Steve. He made Cook CEO. He told Walter Isaacson he set Apple up so Ive had the most operational power.

Here's what Steve told Walter Isaacson (page 364 of Isaacson's book):
The difference that Jony has made, not only at Apple but in the world, is huge. He is a wickedly intelligent person in all ways. He understands business concepts, marketing concepts. He picks stuff up just like that, click. He understands what we do at our core better than anyone. If I had a spiritual partner at Apple, it’s Jony. Jony and I think up most of the products together and then pull others in and say, “Hey, what do you think about this?” He gets the big picture as well as the most infinitesimaldetails about each product. And he understands that Apple is a product company. He’s not just a designer. That’s why he works directly for me. He has more operational power than anyone else at Apple except me. There’s no one who can tell him what to do, or to butt out. That’s the way I set it up.
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If you're unhappy with Apple right now the person you need to blame is Jobs.
 
2ms said:
Look how self-absorbed they look. Apple isn't about the product anymore since Jobs left. Cook and Ive may think it is. But in actuality it's all about them now. Everyone's faces and names front and center, the products almost secondary.

And look at how badly everything is falling apart. The sad thing is that I get no sense that Cook and Co even realize what the problém is. They seem to be focused on solar power plants and gold-plated doodads marketed by celebrities. Practically the complete opposite of what Jobs would have ever done.

Apple became who they were by doing the things the way Jobs thought they should be done. Now they've done a 180.
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Not so sure I agree 100%. Besides the product itself, Steve was ALWAYS the face of Apple.

It's just that these days, there's much more mainstream notoriety and publicity for Apple and the executive team from Tim, to Johnny, Craig, Phil, Eddy, etc. They're all more in vogue with the mainstream media while under a constant microscope since Steve's passing.
 
Tycho24 said:
Not sure you're using "nonetheless" correctly.
It means like "despite the fact".
Unless you think they look BETTER old & fat, yet this photo is good "despite the fact" that they look young & slender... it makes no sense, sir.
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Nonetheless usage was intentional. I don't think our addiction to airbrushing is a good thing, but this is a good pic, nonetheless.
 
Rogifan said:
I still want to know how a terry cloth polo shirt can cost $150. :eek:
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It's the new iFashionista shirt.
Pre-wrinkled for that special edgy hipster persona. :cool:
Features the innovative, easy to use, pre-rolled up cuff
to give your Apple Watch the maximum exposure.
 
Col4bin said:
Not so sure I agree 100%. Besides the product itself, Steve was ALWAYS the face of Apple.

It's just that these days, there's much more mainstream notoriety and publicity for Apple and the executive team from Tim, to Johnny, Craig, Phil, Eddy, etc. They're all more in vogue with the mainstream media while under a constant microscope since Steve's passing.
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Jobs introduced new products at annual convention and that's about it. He focused like a laser on making products that were incredible, and that's it. That's what it takes.

The world benefited much more from that Apple than it does from celebrity charity event Apple.
 
I can't quite explain why, but Jony has gone from being someone I admire and respect to a self-regarding, pompous old windbag. I think it's his overuse of words like "intimate" and "connections".
 
2ms said:
Jobs introduced new products at annual convention and that's about it. He focused like a laser on making products that were incredible, and that's it. That's what it takes.



The world benefited much more from that Apple than it does from celebrity charity event Apple.
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The mythologizing of Steve Jobs doesn't seem to be slowing down. How long before people start crediting him with creating the universe?
 
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