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Actually the point was never that it is not useful. Having a toaster built-in to a laptop would also be useful, but the tradeoffs are not worth it.

The issue is whether the space & cost is net-net positive: my point is that it is not. What would be more valuable to the largest group of MBP buyers, in my opinion, would be (and not necessarily all together):

- Better battery life
- Smaller/lighter
- Cheaper
- SSD (fast) & HDD (slow) storage

We'll see if any of those come to fruition...

Does that matter to you? The point is that the optical drives are still useful and that by using multiple Macs at once you can read/write to CDs/DVDs using each of the machines and get the job done much quicker than with a single Mac.

If Apple removed the optical drives then the effective price of Macs would likely go up as they'd likely keep the US price the same, but charge for the external optical, not make it an included accessory.

I'd also rather not have to carry around an external optical drive.
 
Desperate for this update. Using an old 17" Dell Inspiron E1705 w/ 1440X900 resolution with the comma key missing. And it's the slowest laptop ever. Please Lord make this be true!!!
 
Having a toaster built-in to a laptop would also be useful, but the tradeoffs are not worth it.


I can tell that you don't own a MBP then because they do come with a built in toaster.

It's easy:

1: Warm up your the toasting component by watching a 5 minute youtube video* (only needs to be done once).

2: Place your MBP on top of a piece of bread (continue watching youtube),
flip the bread after a 2 minute video*,

3: after another 2 minute video*, your toast is complete! VOILA!!! you have a piece of toast.

Repeat steps 2 and 3 for more pieces of toast.

*playing a Flash browser game will also work.

Who knew eh??

But all joking aside, I haven't used my ODD once since i got my 15' MBP last june, and as for people saying that most University students use it to watch DVD's, you are wrong. Most University students are too cheap to buy/rent DVD's and it is much cheaper and convenient to download them via P2P. None of my friends have used their ODD on any laptop they own more than twice in their laptop's life, and the majority have not used it once.

I say get rid of it! (or make it BTO)
 
The MBP is definetly going SSD. if you look at the current selling MBPs you will see that the SSD upgrades are 128 256 and 512 last being most expensive. but i can see the MBP 13" having 128 and 256. or a combination of one or more SSD drives in the same system, like 128 + 64 or + 256... the MBP 15" will have same with appropriate storage for its level and the same for the 17"
 
It's going to go

Whether or people like it or not the odd is going to go. It may not happen this cycle, but it will happen. For me it doesn't matter either way I'm going to buy one, I need a new computer. I also saw on a site the other day, maybe this one that Apple may be getting rid of all of the box software in its retail stores. I'm just saying all signs are pointing toward it going away eventually.
 
Numerous Apple store people have told me that they don't know any sooner than we do. And it's a rare occasion that anything is released on the same day it's announced anymore. There's usually at least a 1-2 day delay because boxes reveal specs.

My dream list for the next MacBook Pro update:

1) SSD shipping by default (no more spinning hard drives)
2) SSD in packages like the MacBook Air (reduced space)
3) Death of the optical drive (more reduced space, no one uses it on a regular basis anyway)
4) Larger battery
5) 13" gets 1440x900 as default screen resolution
6) 15" gets 1680x1050 as default screen resolution
7) All LED screens are now IPS like the iPad/iPhone 4
8) 13" gets discrete graphics (because of #2 and 3 giving increased space for cooling)
9) Bluetooth 3.0 (just for good measure)

Yep, that'd be a pretty worthwhile update. Of course, since it's Apple, we'll get about 1/2 this stuff by 2013, but of course the world will have ended by then. =/

I would Like to add to that
10) more battery life
11) This is a bit of a wild idea but what if since they are now joining Mac os X and iOS what if they had a macbook pro that you could rotate the screen lay it flat and it would become a ipad (using lauchpad) and if you flipped it open it would act like any other mac. The reason I would like this is because as a student I am trying to put all my books on my computer and if it went into a "ipad view" it would be easier to read them on a desk
 
Desperate for this update. Using an old 17" Dell Inspiron E1705 w/ 1440X900 resolution with the comma key missing. And it's the slowest laptop ever. Please Lord make this be true!!!

,,,,,,,,, are you jealous?

Comma keys come as standard on macbooks. yeah!
 
March 1 would be excellent. I would still see them releasing it in mid-March, but that's just a subjective feeling. I'm really hoping that all MacBook Pros will get SSD by default, it has to be called "Pro" for a reason right? I wouldn't mind them dropping the optical drive, I use it only for burning CDs for my car every other month and I download all apps I buy.
 
March 1 would be excellent. I would still see them releasing it in mid-March, but that's just a subjective feeling. I'm really hoping that all MacBook Pros will get SSD by default, it has to be called "Pro" for a reason right? I wouldn't mind them dropping the optical drive, I use it only for burning CDs for my car every other month and I download all apps I buy.


I think they will not completely drop the optical drive but they might make it a option for like $150 or similar anyway if thats the case u could buy a car ipod cable with the money you save on a optical drive
 
this will be the longest month(ish) of my life.

i've been using my powermac g5 for waaaaay too long and have ALWAYS wanted a laptop. i sold my car for this update and it'll be one of the best things that has ever happened to me (threesomes are hard to beat). i feel like my computer is going to crash and burn any day now. the apple store won't even look at it because they consider it "vintage", and it isn't worth paying any amount of money to repair a PPC mac, although i may use it as a server later on. my fans go at full blast all the time no matter what, so i have to crank up any music or video that i play just to hear it over what sounds like an airplane taking off in the background.

i don't want to be a slave to my desk anymore! i want to take a lappy of my own to coffee shops with my hipster friends and play wow in my bed until i fall asleep. i want snow leopard and toon boom and parallels.

i need to stop reading this forum until the refresh happens.
 
I'm now in the market for a new MBP, so I will be watching this keenly.

Hopefully there will be some kind of OS X Lion free upgrade path included. I'm not sure that I see another £25 OS upgrade cost like Snow Leopard for Lion, and I'm not sure I can wait until the summer.
 
They 'aint gonna include lion unless you buy it JUST before its release I don't think. I too cannot wait I have a core 2 duo macbook and NEED a new MBP if they don't release one on march 1 I'll give them till april then i am just gonna buy the current model.

I'm now in the market for a new MBP, so I will be watching this keenly.

Hopefully there will be some kind of OS X Lion free upgrade path included. I'm not sure that I see another £25 OS upgrade cost like Snow Leopard for Lion, and I'm not sure I can wait until the summer.
 
If they went 16:9 they would be using the following resolution -
1600x900 - 13" (same height as before, more width)
1920x1080 - 15" (more height by 30 pixels and more width)
2048x1152 - 17" (more width, loss of height by 48 pixels)

C'mon, this is Apple. Those resolutions would not be standard, they would be CTO options. Why include good options as standard when they can charge users extra? :rolleyes:
 
I hope that if apple does release this March they will include free lion upgrade as well.
Would not happen straight away.

Maybe for purchases shortly before Lion comes out or when Lion comes out they'll create a program where you can just pay shipping and get the disc. That would be so that people are still willing to buy old stock that may not come with Lion pre-installed.
 
C'mon, this is Apple. Those resolutions would not be standard, they would be CTO options. Why include good options as standard when they can charge users extra? :rolleyes:

Uhh, they would have to be standard. Those are the only 16:9 resolutions that come after 1366x768 which the 11" MacBook Air is already using. Apple has never offered a resolution upgrade option that is the same resolution as a larger model in the same line.
 
I hope that if apple does release this March they will include free lion upgrade as well.

Trust me, you don't want that.

You want a computer that can run either Snow Leopard or Lion. You don't want to be using a computer that came with 10.7.0 which freezes every few hours, waiting a month for an update to 10.7.1. Which only freezes once a day.

Keeping the option of using Snow Leopard IMO is well worth 99-129 bucks.
 
I agree. I waited a long while before upgrading to Snow Leopard (though my late 09 Mini came with it preinstalled so I didn't get a choice there, but I did wait for my other Macs).
 
I am on a Mid 2009 2.8Ghz 15" and skipped the last release, I am hoping for a better GFXs as I am using my mac more and more for gaming, movies etc than my large gaming PC.

Just struggles to run some games so hopefully might see the new AMD chips in there to give me some lovely gaming goodness.

Kimbie
 
It's always the same procedure here...

A rumor about a certain feature, eg no ODD.
"Oh thanks Apple nobody needs this old stuff."
One political correct guy comes in and says: "just because you don't need it does not mean everybody thinks this way!"

Of course people know that there are some other people using a feature once in a blue moon. But still you should acknowledge that the majority of people in this forum don't really use discs that often, KNOWING that there are some exceptions and that this forum is not representative for the rest of the world.
 
macbook pros out of stock in Denmark

http://shop.humac.dk/pl/Mac_computer__Apple_Bærbar__MacBook_Pro_503.aspxthis is from the Danish website "humac.dk". only two mbp's are "in stock". the i5 500 gb, and the i7 500 gb. The others are "out of stock". Just to confirm that new mbp's are very close :)
btw, i think the mbp will contain SSD, since the update of MBA later this summer might contain SB. the mbp therefore needs SSD to compete with the mba :cool:
 
i've been using my powermac g5 for waaaaay too long [...] i feel like my computer is going to crash and burn any day now. [...] my fans go at full blast all the time no matter what, so i have to crank up any music or video that i play just to hear it over what sounds like an airplane taking off in the background.
Sounds (no pun intended) like your old G5 has collected lots of dust over the years, which hinders heat dissipation, so the fans have to run under full load all of the time.

I would recommend to get a can of pressured air, disconnect all cabling (especially power cable) from the machine, open it and remove all the dust inside throughly. There's a fair chance that this could solve your problem (besides resetting the PMU of course, which i assume you already tried - otherwise do it in parallel to the cleaning job).
 
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