March Launch for Slightly Thicker iPad 3? iPhone with 4-Inch Screen in Summer?

[Icaras]

Time will tell. Because according to your own words, it the next iPad is thicker, it won't sell as good as the current model.

I'm just retelling sales data, which are factual and analytical. That said, I'm not saying that future designs are ruled entirely by how thin a product they can design, and I really do agree with you that whatever can shape it to be an overall great product for consumers in the end, ultimately wins out, but I think thinness and weight is definitely one of Apple's top priorities in making the best product they can make, given the increasing sales and high customer satisfaction rate.

Like you said, time will tell if customers will prefer a higher resolution display with a thicker, weightier iPad. But who knows? This is just a rumor anyway. I personally think Apple will be able to pull off keeping the same thickness while increasing the resolution of the display. How many times has the media been wrong about this stuff? How the heck did the iPhone 4 get thinner than the 3GS anyway, yet include a retina display?

 

[fleggy]

Really hoping for a 15 inch MBA soon... my current MBP has had so many issues with the superdrive failing over the past few years...

I too would love one, but I am not sure you can justify the purchase for your MBP SuperDrive issues LOL. I would hope they drop it from the 15 MBA.

My 2010 superdrive has just started failing. Not good, as I have hardly used it!

 

[phpmaven]

More Deja News

"Deja News"? You're giving away your age with that one.
I haven't heard that name in donkey's years.

 

[dethmaShine]

Ya - that "reason" is that Apple made that way, I guess, so it must be right.

Look around you - EVERYONE has big size screen phones that don't have iPhone. Have you actually USED a phone like the Samsung Galaxy s2 or the other 100 phone that ae similar? They are NOT too big or clumsy to use - they fit easily into a pocket and easy to hold with one hand and it's easy not interfere with the screen. There are more users of 4.3"+ screen phones (combined) then there are users of iPhone - I guess you are saying that ALL of these people are brain dead. I guess it's OK to do that, but those people certainly think that us users of a 3.5" screen in this day and age must also be brain dead, so we'd be even.

That said - it's definitely a personal preference. I don't see why having a larger screen for those who prefer a larger screen (understanding the trade-offs involved) is a bad thing. I myself would sacrifice slightly less pixel density for a larger screen to view video on.

I'm not sure why Apple just don't make two sizes of phone. I can't see why this "fragments' the marketplace in any way as they both run the same iOS version and are both controlled by Apple. Different size Macbook's don't fragment the marketplace, why would different size (just TWO) phones? Other manufactures like Samsung and HTC put out numerous simultaneous phone.

Boy you fanboys......talk about braindead......

Tony

Talking out of your ass, eh?

 

[sheepopo39]

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It's a moot point when the increase is only 0.7 mm. Nobody would notice it. People who would not buy it because of that are absolutely out of their mind.

 

[425]

1) Whatever the next iPhone is called, it will not be the "iPhone 5." The iPhone 4 was called that because it was the 4th generation iPhone. The next iPhone will be the 6th generation, making the name "iPhone 5" stupid. If you want to argue that the 4S doesn't count since it wasn't a redesign, I submit that the 3GS doesn't count, either, making this the "iPhone 4.” If this iPhone has a number, it will be 6. I would guess, though, that this takes the name iPhone 4G.

2) Assuming that the next 3-5 years of iPhones were mapped by Steve Jobs, we won't see a larger screen than the one we have now. And I don't want a larger screen than the one we have now. I'd like to be able to carry it around, thank you very much. If you find your iPhone's screen size inadequate, I don't know what the heck you're using it for and I would like to introduce you to the "iPad"

 

[Long]

I think the next one will be iPhone 5. Don't let the need to logically resolve the sequence of numbers get in the way of the simple answer. The current phone is 4(S), so the next one, if named with a number, will be 5.

The best marketing schemes often run counter to logic.

If we go from 4(S) to 6, people will wonder "what happened to 5?" Most people don't know or don't care that there wasn't an "iPhone 2" 4 years ago, or that the 4(S) is actually the fifth iPhone.

Of course, it could also be called iPhone LTE. Except that kind of looks like iPhone Lite.

 

[APlotdevice]

OK - Just thinking out loud:

If Apple builds a "retina display" iPad - meaning one with the same pixel density as the iPhone4 (326PPI) and double the pixels of today's iPad (1024px x 768px ->2048px x1536px) that would equate to a form factor with a screen diagonal of about 7.8"...

On the other hand, if they build a new hi-res iPad comparable to this iPhone5 rumored size (4" @ 960px x 640px) or 300PPI - that would mean an iPad3 with a diagonal of 8.5"...

Either way - we're looking at an iPad high res that's smaller than today... I, for some reason, seem to think that Apple will push towards 300PPI on both devices and we'll wind up with that 8.5" tablet.

Do the math! - I really want hi res screens and feel the current iPad is a bit too bulky. I hope I prove right!

The term "retina display" does not specifically mean the same PPI as the iPhone 4. Jobs described it as being the point where the eyes could no longer distinguish individual pixels. How high of a pixel density that requires all depends on the viewing distance. The claim Jobs made is that the iPhone being viewed at a distance of about one foot would require just over 300ppi to achieve this. The exact choice of 326ppi was made so that they could exactly double the pixels while retaining the current screen size.

Now for an iPad the average viewing distance is likely a bit farther away. So its screen wouldn't need as high of a pixel density to qualify as "retina display".

 

[APlotdevice]

What's with this constant Blu Ray request? Physical media is ancient history. Thumb drives have similar cost/GB than Blu Ray disks, can hold more data, are compatable with most every computer on the market, are rewritable, are faster, and more durable. Plus, you don't have to spend a fortune on a dick drive to record them.

Similar cost per GB? In what universe?

I have seen a pack of 25 single layer (25GB) BluRay discs for under $22.50. That's around three and a half cents per GB. Thumb drives don't come anywhere remotely close to that price.

 

[takezo808]

I'd buy an iPhone if it looked like that.

Thats a leak of the target product. If it's feasible is another question. Steve Jobs would keep pressuring his engineers to get as close to it as possible.

4" is still a decent sized screen. Iphone 4 and 4S sold with the original 3.5" screen.

Android phones have huge form factors. Jobs was probably very peticular of the overal size and shape of the phone.

 

[pic620]

I like the iPhones current screen size. Larger screens are what iPads are for. I'm less concerned with getting a bigger phone screen than fragmenting the iOS. If I wanted a fragmented operating system, I'd use an Android.

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Exactly. You nailed the strong points nicely.

Apple wins with best battery life and highest dpi for a good reason. I've also seen my friend's HTC Evo and jesus, was it unwieldly.

Folks tend to get too dazzled by the "bigger is better" idea, that they forget to think of all the other benefits that come with a smaller screen. I've seen customers at electronic stores get fooled by buying bigger TV sets with lower picture quality and ones that buy worse speakers because it simply is louder.

Just because your amp goes to 11 doesn't mean make it high end.

It's the misfortune of being amongst Americans. Bigger is always better in this country. Stupid....

 

[MightyMac007]

Can't wait for new images of the new-and-improved-from-the-last-mockup mockup.

 

[tentales]

Thinner MBP only acceptable if it has Blu Ray.

all physical media will drop to the status of vinyl records today.

I have an external Blu-Ray drive connected to my MBA and don't want to lug it around the 99% of time I'm not using. I haven't burned any CDs, DVDs or Blu-rays for that matter in years. There's no more need for that, data storage and media content is becoming virtualized in the (i)cloud.

 

[codencis]

Thinner MBP only acceptable if it has Blu Ray.

*looses faith in the intelligence of humans*

 

[ChrisTX]

The only surefire way to know if the iPhone will have a summer release is if iOS 6 is announced alongside the iPad 3 in the spring. If so, then we know they will release it along with new hardware in the summer. There were rumors that the iPhone 4S was delayed because of iOS 5 so who knows.

 

[telic]

I was confused!

I bought the MD318 just now. Then I saw the MBP rumors. I really expect the new design MBP. However no one knows how long should I wait for it.

 

[StuddedLeather]

Look around you - EVERYONE has big size screen phones that don't have iPhone. Have you actually USED a phone like the Samsung Galaxy s2 or the other 100 phone that ae similar? They are NOT too big or clumsy to use - they fit easily into a pocket and easy to hold with one hand and it's easy not interfere with the screen. There are more users of 4.3"+ screen phones (combined) then there are users of iPhone - I guess you are saying that ALL of these people are brain dead. I guess it's OK to do that, but those people certainly think that us users of a 3.5" screen in this day and age must also be brain dead, so we'd be even.


Boy you fanboys......talk about braindead......

Tony

Tony, You sound like a bandwagoner.

Everyone else is . . . so why can't I?



You have options. There are loads of 4.3" phones YOU can choose from. Just because "everyone" else have those monstrous phones claiming it's cool, doesn't mean it's a necessity for all. So please stop trying to validate your opinion because clearly the average consumer doesn't care.

I really despise that sentiment. "Well everyone else. . ." Go be like everyone else then.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeming a slightly bigger iPhone screen, as long as they're able to keep the resolution. But most importantly, just like last time, I'm more excited about software improvements and additions. Can't wait to see what iOS 6 brings!

 

[lewdvig]

Duh. Apple won't mention iPad 3 until holiday return period is over. Mid Feb at the earliest. Some stores group iPads in the 30 day return policies on electronics instead on computers.

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Tony, You sound like a bandwagoner.

Every else is . . . so why can't I?



You have options. There are loads of 4.3" phones YOU can choose from. Just because "everyone" else have those monstrous phones claiming it's cool, doesn't mean it's a necessity for all. So please stop trying to validate your opinion because clearly the average consumer doesn't care.

I really despise that sentiment. "Well everyone else. . ." Go be like everyone else then.

I'd be game for a 4.5" iPhone if it were thinner, similar weight, made of glass and aluminum and had equal or better battery life.

 

[vitzr]

- iPhone: iLounge's source claims that the next-generation will not resemble the teardrop "iPhone 5" design that circulated ahead of the iPhone 4S introduction last month. The next iPhone is, however, said to carry a 4-inch display (up from 3.5 inches in the current iPhone) and be 8 mm longer than the current form factor. Apple is said to be targeting a summer launch for the device, which would mark a short interval from the iPhone 4S launch last month.

An early release is terrific, I'm eager to dump this fragile glass slab.

Looks like Apple got the message that we want a redesigned phone.

Too bad the display is still on the smaller side, but better than nothing I guess.

 

[kjs862]

If they release the next iPhone with a larger display, I hope they keep the pixel density the same.

 

[Sankersizzle]

Considering the things I had to do to get my 4S, I would literally die if a new iPhone came out in the summer.

 

[28monkeys]

My only interest is in 15" inch macbook air.

 

[1goodidea]

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Thicker iPad. Longer iPhone. Both seem unlikely.

 

[AppleScruff1]

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Thicker iPad. Longer iPhone. Both seem unlikely.

Maybe longer and thicker really is better?

 

[Sankersizzle]

Maybe longer and thicker really is better?

So my girlfriend was right...