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March Madness - College Hoops!
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cycocelica said:Oh and it looks like I will be coming in second. YAY (i guess)
You're just going to edge me out.
MacNut said:Im wondering if anyone in the country really picked GMU to win the whole thing, and who did it on a dare or just a lucky guess. I can't think anyone really gave George Mason a legit shot. Watch everyone lose when GMU wins the national title.
I'm sure people at George Mason did. I read one person made a bet on them before the tourney $20 with 400-1 odds. If they win he pockets a nice little profit. But similarly I can't imagine that he didn't place a few more bets.
I also noticed that on the facebook standings for brackets, students at george mason have the second higest average. This would probably imply that many of them picket (it uses upset scoring so they've been gettin a billion points). So yes I do believe there are some people who always pick their team even at a school like george mason, I just don't know how you had a straight face when you right down defeats over FLA / Nova, UCONN, UNC, MSU to name a few they'd have to beat to take it all.
When a team does much better than expected, why do they consider their wins to be great upsets, and never mention the other possibility: that the rankings/seedings were just plain wrong?
MacNut said:
I don't even really consider the CAA a conference persay, its more like a collection of smallers schools
... i'm serious because it doesn't seem to spawn the same kind of conference drive that you see in the big ones, but that also doesn't mean that I think they play any less quality ball. Also mid majors and the lower teams from major conferences all have a chance to schedule some decent games if they want. Wichita state nearly beat illinois this year in non conference games
Kwyjibo said:I don't even really consider the CAA a conference persay, its more like a collection of smallers schools
George Mason is the largest university in Virginia...not exactly a "smaller" school.
I have no idea what you mean by "the same kind of conference drive that you see in the big ones." Are you saying that CAA schools don't care about their conference? That's certainly not true.
WildCowboy said:
1. I go to a school with around 13k more in enrollment (17 v 30), the largest in virginia does not really matter to me as far as a comparison ... it can still be a small school to me. They're not a big basketball program, they did a great job this year but the program still has LOTS to grow, I don't see many recruits beginning to list george mason because of one final four run. (this is 100% my opinion).
2. I don't really have too much fear for any of the programs in the CAA. I'm probably an elitest but seeing ODU on our schedule would not scare me like seeing a UCONN or a Duke, plain and simple. At the same time, I don't think the conference is as tough as a bigger conference. This can be debated at nasueasum but yeah ... gonzaga wins the WCC often, why? cuz its easy. Memphis wins C-USA why? everybody left. I don't think the CAA is all that competitive as a league, simply my opinion when comparing it to the battle in the Big East. But they put a team in the final four and the big ten failed to get past the first weekend. Maybe conferences don't matter that much but I still think they do. Thats why people join conferences to gain respect via the elevated challenge. We wouldn't need them at all if they didn't mean anything.
1. GMU has over 29,000 students...it's big.
2. That's what everybody says...until they have to face a CAA team in the tournament and get their hats handed to them. I went to Richmond...we moved to the A-10 a few years ago for the increased exposure, but when we were in the CAA, we usually won our first round games. Auburn in '84, Indiana and Georgia Tech in '88, Syracuse in '91, South Carolina in '98. UNCW knocked off Southern Cal a few years ago. There's terrific basketball going on in the "mid-major" conferences...a lot of people just choose to ignore it.
2. That's what everybody says...until they have to face a CAA team in the tournament and get their hats handed to them. I went to Richmond...we moved to the A-10 a few years ago for the increased exposure, but when we were in the CAA, we usually won our first round games. Auburn in '84, Indiana and Georgia Tech in '88, Syracuse in '91, South Carolina in '98. UNCW knocked off Southern Cal a few years ago. There's terrific basketball going on in the "mid-major" conferences...a lot of people just choose to ignore it.
I'm not referring only to George Mason. When a lower-seeded team beats a higher-seeded team, they always call it an "upset", never mentioning that it could be a mis-assigned seed.MacNut said:
I guess "upset" no longer means beating a better team. It now means beating a higher-ranked team.
This tournament is so hard to predict a good team could have a bad stretch and a lower seed could beat them, those same teams might meet a week later and have a different result. Its been mentioned that if you play the same 64 teams again the results would be different each time.
Ok let me explain that further, They go by a strength of schedule and usually a team that plays harder teams during the season have a better chance of beating a lower team, that is not always the case, a lot of lower ranked teams don't have the opportunity or ability to meet those higher ranked teams so nobody knows how capable a lower team can really be.
Ok let me explain that further, They go by a strength of schedule and usually a team that plays harder teams during the season have a better chance of beating a lower team, that is not always the case, a lot of lower ranked teams don't have the opportunity or ability to meet those higher ranked teams so nobody knows how capable a lower team can really be.
The LSU players were good sports. It must have been a frustrating game for them, but they kept their cool. Good for them.
Edit: I guess March Madness is over even before the tournament is, since it's now April.
Edit: I guess March Madness is over even before the tournament is, since it's now April.
Kwyjibo said:
Crappy offense. Very good defense -- championship worthy defense from both winners.
Men NCAA championship game tonight..UCLA vs. FLA
Im here at work and my buddy and I are trying to find the over/under for tonights game and the point spread...but with this "websense" we keep getting blocked from gambling sites. Can any1 try to find out tonights over/under and the point spread for me i would appreciate it..
go GATORS!!!
Im here at work and my buddy and I are trying to find the over/under for tonights game and the point spread...but with this "websense" we keep getting blocked from gambling sites. Can any1 try to find out tonights over/under and the point spread for me i would appreciate it..
go GATORS!!!
Since the game is on live at 6:21 Pacific time and 9:21 Eastern time, I'll be glad to post the final score after I watch the game here on the west coast. That way you easterners will know the outcome before the game starts and can place your bets accordingly.
Doctor Q said:Since the game is on live at 6:21 Pacific time and 9:21 Eastern time, I'll be glad to post the final score after I watch the game here on the west coast. That way you easterners will know the outcome before the game starts and can place your bets accordingly.
Why don't you just ask one of the Aussies right now...it's already Tuesday there.