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Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple's iMessage is Facebook's 'Biggest Competitor by Far'
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It's amazing to me that someone like M.Z. can be the CEO and major stockholder of a company the size, and therefor influence, of Facebook. Watch/listen to him sometime. It's obvious he is deep, deep, deep over his head; "deer in the headlights" look all the time. He simply doesn't have the intellect to grasp the implications of FB's business. His statements make it clear he either doesn't realize iMessage isn't cross-platform, and therefor can't possibly be a serious threat to FB, or he's taking "creative lying" lessons from a certain individual inside the Capital Beltway to spin everything towards FB's favor (he thinks). His comment on WhatsApp is tell: he's using the great security story the *original* app had as a positive reference to FB's own security, meanwhile FB has already begun to undermine that security to the extent that the WhatsApp founders left FB in disgust. This is our world today: incompetent people in powerful positions.
Had Whatsapp on my phone for about 4 years and received 1 message. Deleted it recently. There is overlap with Messenger and iMessage anyways. My Android friends and co-workers are fine with SMS. It's just simpler. I have FB Messenger app just for family and friends and that is not used as much at iMessage. Comes in handy for a backup or fallback to some people, however I don't lead with it. If FB junks it up with ads, I'll get rid of it. Almost all of my family and friends are on iPhones, so it's easy.
Seriously looking at deleting Instagram next.
Seriously looking at deleting Instagram next.
'Member when Steve Jobs said they were going to open up the iMessage protocol? I 'member. Or am I misremembering with only Facetime being promised?
Nice. I found the Firefox trick by accident because I always run Facebook in a quarantined separate browser I don't really use for anything else.
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I think that was FaceTime. And if I'm remembering correctly that was derailed by patent trolls. Someone else might remember this more accurately than I.
Here come the ads to WhatsApp....glad I deleted the app. More FB Story crap.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...onfirms-ads-are-coming-to-the-status-section/
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...onfirms-ads-are-coming-to-the-status-section/
You could delete it right now and then just use this ancient technology called texting.
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Half my friends have Android phones as well, and I can text them just fine with my iPhone. Don't see why you would need WhatsApp and Messenger.
If you read previous posts, in other countries, cell company charge a lot for SMS/text. I actually read an article a few months ago that cell carries are going to use texts message for ads.
Because of the costs of sending multimedia attachments, I’ve explained why elsewhere in the thread.
Zuck likes comparing apple's to oranges in order to throw shade.
The reality is iMessage is popular because it has an SMS fall back. So in reality it's the only message app on earth that will get to your recipient regardless of whether they have the app or not.
SMS's sent to you also appear seamlessly in iMessage.
It has literally, zero-friction usage.
FB Message had a problem the minute they decoupled it from the main FB app. It was yet another thing to download just to receive a message. So a lot of their issues are really down to Zuck.
Also, whats with the friend suggestions is FB now? People I dont even know and have no friends in common with are now being suggested to me. WTF? Zuck is so wrong nowadays. FB is really losing its branding.
Finally, both Zuck, Google and MS must be so frustrated with Apple. Apple dont have anything like a monopoly share (20%??) and yet its where all the money is made. Its where all the people advertisers and businesses want to target are. And yet they cant force them to open up because Apple dont go for low hanging fruit (low cost users) and thus avoid monopoly situations.
I think the tactic now is to suggest to law makers that Apple is just generally unfair and damaging their business and try to get politicians to cripple apple somehow.
The reality is iMessage is popular because it has an SMS fall back. So in reality it's the only message app on earth that will get to your recipient regardless of whether they have the app or not.
SMS's sent to you also appear seamlessly in iMessage.
It has literally, zero-friction usage.
FB Message had a problem the minute they decoupled it from the main FB app. It was yet another thing to download just to receive a message. So a lot of their issues are really down to Zuck.
Also, whats with the friend suggestions is FB now? People I dont even know and have no friends in common with are now being suggested to me. WTF? Zuck is so wrong nowadays. FB is really losing its branding.
Finally, both Zuck, Google and MS must be so frustrated with Apple. Apple dont have anything like a monopoly share (20%??) and yet its where all the money is made. Its where all the people advertisers and businesses want to target are. And yet they cant force them to open up because Apple dont go for low hanging fruit (low cost users) and thus avoid monopoly situations.
I think the tactic now is to suggest to law makers that Apple is just generally unfair and damaging their business and try to get politicians to cripple apple somehow.
And the way Apple has been pushing back on this (and this is very smart IMO) has been to publicly push for stronger privacy regulations. Apple ends up looking like the good guys, and at the same time they're working to hamstring their competitors who are buttering their bread by selling data about their users.
