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I really think Mark Zuckerberg is out of touch with what people want right now.

After the last two year where, owing to a global pandemic, we haven't been able to see people in person or go to in-person events, what a lot of people want now more than anything (or at least when the pandemic is truly over) is to see our friends and hang out properly again. Not meet up with them in a virtual space ridden with NFT's, fake concerts, and low res avatars.
I’ll add to that argument and say this was exactly the period where customers should be screaming for AR products if that’s actually something they wanted. If it hasn’t happened in the time we were forced to stay at home, it certainly won’t happen when it’s voluntary.
 
This won't happen. I would even venture to say this can't happen. I don't mean that in the pejorative sense, but if this quote is true then it does demonstrate that Zuckerberg doesn't actually understand what made that "iPhone moment" the inflexion point it surely was.

Mark Zuckerberg isn't Steve Jobs. Again, not meant as a slur, but it's inescapable that Jobs was a master storyteller and regardless of what you thought of the man and the products, nobody could pitch like him. Zuckerberg certainly can't. Facts.

Lots of people who aren't Apple Enthusiasts perhaps don't comprehend how much pent-up desire there was for Apple to make a phone. People knew there was a revolution there to be had, if some company could just come up with the right sauce. And there was faith that Apple could be that company. Meta doesn't have the pedigree or the mythology. People don't care about what Meta makes in the same way people care about Apple. Coming off the back of the Apple resurgence fuelled by the original iMac and the iPod, there was an awareness in the wider public that Apple was capable of producing something truly kick-ass.

Most people still don't even know what the "metaverse" even means and I challenge anyone to demonstrate that Meta has even 10% of that same wider public awareness.

When you watch that iPhone launch, the cheer that goes up when he announces that Apple is making a phone, the visceral euphoria that fills the auditorium, is something that can't be faked.

To be clear, the Apple of today faces some of these same challenges in the inevitable launch of their AR/VR product, but the ingredients simply aren't there for Meta to have an "iPhone moment".
Completely agree. When Apple begins to launch their AR platform, it’ll be Apple’s moment once again. I’d wager to agree with Tim Cook and say Apple’s AR will be bigger than the iPhone.
 
I’ll add to that argument and say this was exactly the period where customers should be screaming for AR products if that’s actually something they wanted. If it hasn’t happened in the time we were forced to stay at home, it certainly won’t happen when it’s voluntary.
People don’t yet understand AR. This is more like trying to get people to understand personal computers before they saw them in the wild. Most didn’t know why someone would want something like that in their home.
 
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I know I have no right to feel this way about a human being I do not personally know, but I just absolutely loathe Mark Zuckerberg.
 
Meta or Facebook or what ever their name is WILL never have what apple have, core values with the customer in the center of everything.
They're the same; squeeze every penny they can out of their customers.

You think Apple is some kind of saint?
 
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What moment would he call that creepy irritating ad of his where the lion stops killing a wildebeest to dance to some kids with the tagline of “this is gonna be fun”? I’d call it the moment where the villain foreshadows their plan rather than delivering it through a monologue.
 
If Mark wants to be seen in a new light, he needs to do the hard work of cleaning up the mess he made.
 
FB has the best VR headset with Oculus, hands down. They will certainly deliver AR before Apple will, because they exponentially more experience in the field, and we all know Apple has messed with AR for a long time without delivering. Keep in mind FB will deliver a $299 product, and Apple will deliver a $1499 product.
Don’t count out PlayStation the original Psvr was a good product and the new one looks like it will be even better. Once supply chain issues are resolved a console and headset has a greater chance of reaching the broader audience then a pc and headset
 
I’m sure developers are just dying to hop on this platform so they can give Zuck 48% of gross revenues.
 
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Say, when was the last time a major tech founder/CEO had his "ego intertwined" with his planned, new, I-wanna-be-Steve-Jobs product? Oh yeah, it was Jeff Bezos and his Fire Phone: you remember, the one with a front facing camera in each corner of the phone? His top people scratched their heads in puzzlement at what was going to be so great about that feature, but Bezos insisted.

It tanked immediately, and had to be quickly cancelled to keep it from dragging down the whole company (already skating at the edge of profitability because that's the winning strategy for sure). All the responsible executives were immediately fired -- but not Bezos.

For Zuck's sake, I hope he's aware of that episode, and is being careful not to repeat it.
 
I don't know that these will take over from either company, but I will say that I think on Facebook's side they have the strength of software quality which is now a liability for Apple. Facebook writes good software. Apple used to. And on Apple's side, they have trust. A lot of people probably don't like the idea of buying consumer electronics from Facebook and see it as more of an untrustworthy company without a history of strong consumer electronic sales.
 
It won't happen because Zuck has a majority voting share of Facebook, but the company really needs completely new leadership. Look at how Microsoft has transformed with Nadella after the Gates/Balmer era. The key there is that Nadella was not a Microsoft founder, was not there in the early days of Windows, and did not share in their vision. Instead he brought a new vision. The same is true of Cook and Apple to a degree. Facebook needs a similar shakeup - someone who was not there from the start needs to take over.
 
Here in the Bay Area, a local reported did a funny little story where he followed people around in San Francisco for over a block with a big TV camera. Everyone he followed and later interviewed were glued to their phones and never seemed to notice the large man and large camera walking 2 feet away from them.

I can't wait until the same zombies get their VR headsets!
 
FB has the best VR headset with Oculus, hands down. They will certainly deliver AR before Apple will, because they exponentially more experience in the field, and we all know Apple has messed with AR for a long time without delivering. Keep in mind FB will deliver a $299 product, and Apple will deliver a $1499 product.
And my bet is most of us will buy neither. AR vs other computer interaction is like the difference between sipping wine versus mainlining i.v. ethanol. No way I would ever buy an AR headset for a kid, young adult, or anybody prone to addiction. Can you magine when AR porn hits the scene? Can you?
 
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Meta's first-generation AR glasses, dubbed Nazare, will be designed to work independently from a smartphone with the use of a wireless, phone-shaped device that offloads part of the computing required for the glasses to function.

Oh I'm sure many people are looking forward to wear another phone-shaped device in addition to the phone-shaped phone they already wear...

Zuckerberg reportedly hopes they will cast Meta and himself in a new light and make the company he founded innovative once again
Facebook never was innovative and also was never perceived as such, at least as far as I'm aware.
 
Creepy Facebook can change their name as many times as they want and to whatever they want, but there's no chance I'm buying any of their products and using them in my day to day life, let alone use their information stealing/profiting platform.
 
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