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I don't think retina is a risk. Lag: use Webkit and update to 10.9. IR: take it in for a replacement. If you can buy it, I don't see why you wouldn't unless you need expandibility. Also, consider the 2.3, 8, 256 model for $1599 becase 16GB RAM probably is not necessary for your uses.

Good luck with the decision and feel free to PM me with any further questions.
 
I don't think retina is a risk. Lag: use Webkit and update to 10.9. IR: take it in for a replacement. If you can buy it, I don't see why you wouldn't unless you need expandibility. Also, consider the 2.3, 8, 256 model for $1599 becase 16GB RAM probably is not necessary for your uses.

Good luck with the decision and feel free to PM me with any further questions.

I believe there was one right around 2k with a 512 GB SSD (8gigs of ram) so perhaps that's the way to go? I've just seen many comments about how apple is trying to shorten product lives by making people be stuck with 8 gigs. Is that not true you think?
 
I believe there was one right around 2k with a 512 GB SSD (8gigs of ram) so perhaps that's the way to go? I've just seen many comments about how apple is trying to shorten product lives by making people be stuck with 8 gigs. Is that not true you think?

8GB is fine for most users, 16GB is no doubt the better option thought but yeah, if you need it you need it. I think the stock cMBP is fine for you, it's a great machine and with the upgrades you will make to it, then it's going to scream for the work your going to do on it. - L
 
I believe there was one right around 2k with a 512 GB SSD (8gigs of ram) so perhaps that's the way to go? I've just seen many comments about how apple is trying to shorten product lives by making people be stuck with 8 gigs. Is that not true you think?

Look at your current computer to see how much space you need. 512 may be too much. As for the planned obsolescence, it might be but even if you do get page outs,the SSD helps a lot in processing them faster.
 
8GB is fine for most users, 16GB is no doubt the better option thought but yeah, if you need it you need it. I think the stock cMBP is fine for you, it's a great machine and with the upgrades you will make to it, then it's going to scream for the work your going to do on it. - L

Any way to tell? I'd assume again, too much is better then not enough. And for almost the same price, I kind of want retina, I just hate the non upgradability.

Look at your current computer to see how much space you need. 512 may be too much. As for the planned obsolescence, it might be but even if you do get page outs,the SSD helps a lot in processing them faster.

Currently I have like 60 gigs used, but I have none of my pictures, music, or really any big files on here. So I feel 256 is doable but close.

I may shoot for this one:

Refurbished 15.4-inch MacBook Pro 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel i7 with Retina Display
Originally released June 2012
15.4-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2880-by-1800 resolution at 220 pixels per inch
16GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB Flash Storage
720p FaceTime HD Camera
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory

for $2,189 if I can. With that, there'd be no doubt I'd be lacking in any category, right?
 
Do you have a Mac now. If so, open Activity Monitor and click on RAM usage. Add up wired and active and that is how much you are using. That refurn is one of the best out there; what is the processor in GHz? And don't forget that prices will most likely drop after tomorrow.
 
Do you have a Mac now. If so, open Activity Monitor and click on RAM usage. Add up wired and active and that is how much you are using. That refurn is one of the best out there; what is the processor in GHz? And don't forget that prices will most likely drop after tomorrow.

I don't have a mac right now. And besides, my google chrome isn't really maxxing out my laptop like I will need to be able to do :p

And when you ask for what's the ghz which are you asking? My current one is a 2.3 i3, the one there was a 2.6 i7.

I'm looking forward to prices hopefully dropping and making it easier for me to get!
 
The one there is the high end 2010 with the RAM upgrade, retailing for $2999, now $2799 for the slightly faster (2.7 vs 2.6) 2013 model. That is a great deal!
 
The one there is the high end 2010 with the RAM upgrade, retailing for $2999, now $2799 for the slightly faster (2.7 vs 2.6) 2013 model. That is a great deal!

To clarify, the one I chose used to retail for $2,999 and the new slightly faster one is $2,799 and so my price of $2,189 is a great deal? You recommend that if I can?

And that way I have nothing to worry about at all right?
 
To clarify, the one I chose used to retail for $2,999 and the new slightly faster one is $2,799 and so my price of $2,189 is a great deal? You recommend that if I can?

And that way I have nothing to worry about at all right?
I do recommend that one. If you have any problems,post here and/or take it to the Apple Store.

Good luck :)
 
I do recommend that one. If you have any problems,post here and/or take it to the Apple Store.

Good luck :)

Awesome thanks! Any idea how long it will take for price differences to show up in the refurb store?

And for real thanks for all the help!

Save 200 or more dollars by using the educational store that apple has!

Since I'm buying refurbished it wont apply and I save more with refurb then the education discount. Thanks though!
 
Oh also- applecare for the retina? or no?

Definitely. Expensive but completely worth it if you live in the US. Countries like England and Austrlia have mandatory to year coverage, so Applecare only adds one year.
 
Definitely. Expensive but completely worth it if you live in the US. Countries like England and Austrlia have mandatory to year coverage, so Applecare only adds one year.

Alright sounds great. Thanks!
 
Definitely. Expensive but completely worth it if you live in the US. Countries like England and Austrlia have mandatory to year coverage, so Applecare only adds one year.

No reason not to buy even though there was no update today right?
 
Right. If you're set on refurb and don't want to wait for a few months for the refresh, now is the time to buy.

Or is it worth waiting for? With all these people talking about how it may be silently updated in July I almost think that may be a good idea to wait? Although would the price only drop like $100 or something? If that? It already is discounted quite a bit.
 
Do you have a Mac now. If so, open Activity Monitor and click on RAM usage. Add up wired and active and that is how much you are using. That refurn is one of the best out there; what is the processor in GHz? And don't forget that prices will most likely drop after tomorrow.

I don't this is a good measure of your memory needs. My personal MBP typically uses 3.5 GB of its 4GB of RAM. The Mac Mini I use at work typically uses is 8 to 10 GB of 16GB for similar workloads. Essentially, the OS treats RAM as a resource to be used and isn't a good indicator of how much you need.

Likewise, the frequency of the processor is not a good indicator of performance between generations. The 1.3GHz processors found in the latest MBA's would offer 2-3 times the performance of the 2.2GHz processor in my 2007 MBP.
 
Right. If you're set on refurb and don't want to wait for a few months for the refresh, now is the time to buy.

Do I have anything to worry about with there being SSDs? As in failing within a few years? This concept is new to me.
 
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They might fail, just as HDDs might. But they tend to early on if they will (not likely).
 
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