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MBP matte screen = freakin' gorgeous
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I love my glossy display as a photographer, things just jump out more on this display.
If I wanted a matte display I would rather get the powersupport anti glare film and put that on for $40.
I would rather keep the black edges, thank you very much.
If I wanted a matte display I would rather get the powersupport anti glare film and put that on for $40.
I would rather keep the black edges, thank you very much.
Sorry to go off topic but does anyone have any display profiles for the 17 inch matte screen? Or was there a thread started?
I was wondering why I'd want the colors displayed on my MBP to "pop" more than they already do? They'd definitely look oversaturated, which would look artificial. I can already get photos to "pop" all I need on the display, and find the neutrality I've got my old-generation matte screen set to works perfectly well. I can easily adjust any image to "pop" if I want it to. The display will certainly let me do that... but that oversaturation feeling just gets trendy feeling, then old after a brief amount of time.
That's just my opinion. There would be no benefit in a glossy screen for me. But, thankfully, Apple offers a choice for different tastes and needs. I have no real need to justify my choice, and neither does anyone else.
I also like vanilla ice cream better than chocolate, but I hope that doesn't start a debate...
That's just my opinion. There would be no benefit in a glossy screen for me. But, thankfully, Apple offers a choice for different tastes and needs. I have no real need to justify my choice, and neither does anyone else.
I also like vanilla ice cream better than chocolate, but I hope that doesn't start a debate...
Do you think it was Apple's Engineers that made the decision to use glossy screens? I doubt it. I guarantee you that it was Apple's marketing department that made the decision. IMO Apple is trying to get a larger slice of the consumer pie and offer computers with screens that have more curb appeal. When the computer is off, it makes the screen look bigger with the black bezel and glass that reaches beyond the bezel. All marketing, NOT engineering.
Anyone who has computed in the 90s knows that glare is bad for your eyes (remember antiglare filters?). Unfortunately for a lot of people they don't know any better but to buy the "shiny" one and to base their choices as if they were buying a TV.
All in all, I'm glad there is an option now.
VERY good point!
I bought the 24" apple cinema for my unibody because i liked the charger etc. The glare was so bad I could only use it in with the blinds closed! It seems the larger the screen, the more glare it attracts. I took it back right away. My 20" ACD kills their new 24". I'll stick with that.
Threads like this kill me. I'm not a photo professional or a graphic design professional.
I'm a student and I take photos as a hobby. Currently I'm taking a graphic art class. I'll be purchasing a 15in MBP on Friday and I've got to decide whether or not I want to go with Matte. Right now I'm leaning towards the glossy because I'm not a fan of the bezel and I don't really have anyway to compare.
I don't plan on going PRO in this field anytime and I do all my work inside. I am thinking that the glossy option would be a good way to go since I'll generally be in a light controlled environment.
I just want something with more oompf than my 3 year old macbook.
The main program I'll be using is illustrator for my current class. It seems like it really is a personal preference. But I think the guy who said that the screen is antiglare over matte makes a good point.
I really do dislike the silver bezel though. It seems to me that if one wanted matte screen it'd be cheaper to buy a refurbished macbook pro that still had the express card slot.
Anyways just looking for some input for a guy that isn't a pro and probably won't become one in the near future.(meaning if I need to get matte I could always just buy an external monitor)
I'm a student and I take photos as a hobby. Currently I'm taking a graphic art class. I'll be purchasing a 15in MBP on Friday and I've got to decide whether or not I want to go with Matte. Right now I'm leaning towards the glossy because I'm not a fan of the bezel and I don't really have anyway to compare.
I don't plan on going PRO in this field anytime and I do all my work inside. I am thinking that the glossy option would be a good way to go since I'll generally be in a light controlled environment.
I just want something with more oompf than my 3 year old macbook.
The main program I'll be using is illustrator for my current class. It seems like it really is a personal preference. But I think the guy who said that the screen is antiglare over matte makes a good point.
I really do dislike the silver bezel though. It seems to me that if one wanted matte screen it'd be cheaper to buy a refurbished macbook pro that still had the express card slot.
Anyways just looking for some input for a guy that isn't a pro and probably won't become one in the near future.(meaning if I need to get matte I could always just buy an external monitor)
They only look better, but they are NOT better at all, it's just the same. Sigh, when is this gonna stop
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They only look better, but they are NOT better at all, it's just the same. Sigh, when is this gonna stop
Yeah but they 'pop' out.
i can't believe i am entering this debate because it is so childish to me. but, here goes. in my own humble opinion, apple didn't make the glassy screen because it would make the colors pop out or whatever. i think it was done because of the questions they asked themselves in designing the UMBP. they asked themselves, "what can we do to make the screen look different?" this is the reason, i think, why the glassy screen was born. it wasn't for any practical reason really other than the idea that a glassy screen and aluminum would make a cool combination that will hopefully grab people's attention and buy their product. that's it. having somekind of glassy thing in front of the lcd screen will not make the colors stand out. and if it does, it is probably just an illusionary effect like wearing sunglasses. i think it was done for the sole purpose of making their new product stand out from the previous models, which didn't have a glassy screen cover. that's what i really think the glassy thing is called. a screen cover, protector, whathaveyou. so, maybe it is practical too since it protects the screen.
but, personally, i'm glad they have a matte option now in the 15" model because i like matte. my powerbook is matte.
but, personally, i'm glad they have a matte option now in the 15" model because i like matte. my powerbook is matte.
I for one an glad this thread is here. As I begin to make decisions on my pending purchase, it has forced me to think through this option at length.
Honestly, I don't really understand why anyone would purchase glossy for a laptop. We use laptops in ever changing environments, Classroom, office, car, patio, bedroom, hotel lobby, hotel room, restaurants, bars, coffee shops,airports, train station, trains, airplanes, etc. Many of the fore mentioned environments are bright, sometimes almost sterile. For me, about the only time my current MBP is used in a light controlled environment is at night. When I went and looked at the glossy screen in the store the first thing I noticed was the glare from the store lighting.
Fact is, this is a personal choice thing. But, why limit the environmental applications? If every time I pulled out my MBP and had to figure out where the glare was coming from it would have a very negative effect on my productivity.
Thanks. This has definitely made up my mind. Anti Glare is the only choice.
Honestly, I don't really understand why anyone would purchase glossy for a laptop. We use laptops in ever changing environments, Classroom, office, car, patio, bedroom, hotel lobby, hotel room, restaurants, bars, coffee shops,airports, train station, trains, airplanes, etc. Many of the fore mentioned environments are bright, sometimes almost sterile. For me, about the only time my current MBP is used in a light controlled environment is at night. When I went and looked at the glossy screen in the store the first thing I noticed was the glare from the store lighting.
Fact is, this is a personal choice thing. But, why limit the environmental applications? If every time I pulled out my MBP and had to figure out where the glare was coming from it would have a very negative effect on my productivity.
Thanks. This has definitely made up my mind. Anti Glare is the only choice.
enthusiasts and supporters of the matte screen option don't have to since, well, there is nothing to prove..it is general knowledge for those "in-the-know" that l337ness correlates with using a matte screen, and nothing is more n00b and embarrassing than a trendy glossy (sic) screen.Keep trying to convince yourself fella.
glossy screen? might as well replace my monitor with a mirror!
Eh? I am in the l337 camp. I am pro-matte.enthusiasts and supporters of the matte screen option don't have to since, well, there is nothing to prove..it is general knowledge for those "in-the-know" that l337ness correlates with using a matte screen, and nothing is more n00b and embarrassing than a trendy glossy (sic) screen.
I met a client for lunch to show him his website I was working on. The first thing he said when he saw my Glassbook Pro is "wow, you can really see the reflections on your screen". We were in a restaurant with many windows and he was squinting to see what I was trying to show him. Horrible.
They only look better, but they are NOT better at all, it's just the same. Sigh, when is this gonna stop
im sorry but what other way is there to perceive colour? "they look better but are not better at all"? ..do they smell bad?
im sorry but i have read every ****** argument for and against glossy.. they just make me laugh now
Two people staring at the same screen will create their own perceptive based "facts" which in reality are simply opinions. Beauty is perceptive by nature. Don't be like bad Christians who go around saying, "believe what I believe in or I'll spank you."
I am a military service member and I did a lot of air missions as a medical flight attendant for my peers coming back from downrange. The lighting in C130s, C17s and etc is all kinds of kooky and I had a unibody macbook during a particular time and never did I complain about any "glare." Neither did my patients as we tried to watch movies. Why? It is a laptop and I can readjust my position or the laptop itself for optimal viewing.
I've used matte screen before and while they have a purpose - they also have huge drawbacks as well. Sure they reduce glare...but, the glare they don't rid of ends up being an annoying white blotch on the screen. No real work should be done on a laptop screen or used for long durations outside to begin with.
I finally got a chance to see the anti-glare screen for the new mbps and i was surprised by how well the screens are compared to previous mbp screens that where "matte." with that said - in great lightening...the glossy just can't be beat. when i do computer work - it is 90somethingpercent indoors. maybe i'll go outside and have some coffee or whatnot...but, why base a purchase decision on something that i do on occasion?
don't be a mindless follower who jumps on a bandwagon simply because it is the latest and "appearing" to be the greatest. if you follow everyones opinions you will probably make a poor purchase decision.
I am a military service member and I did a lot of air missions as a medical flight attendant for my peers coming back from downrange. The lighting in C130s, C17s and etc is all kinds of kooky and I had a unibody macbook during a particular time and never did I complain about any "glare." Neither did my patients as we tried to watch movies. Why? It is a laptop and I can readjust my position or the laptop itself for optimal viewing.
I've used matte screen before and while they have a purpose - they also have huge drawbacks as well. Sure they reduce glare...but, the glare they don't rid of ends up being an annoying white blotch on the screen. No real work should be done on a laptop screen or used for long durations outside to begin with.
I finally got a chance to see the anti-glare screen for the new mbps and i was surprised by how well the screens are compared to previous mbp screens that where "matte." with that said - in great lightening...the glossy just can't be beat. when i do computer work - it is 90somethingpercent indoors. maybe i'll go outside and have some coffee or whatnot...but, why base a purchase decision on something that i do on occasion?
don't be a mindless follower who jumps on a bandwagon simply because it is the latest and "appearing" to be the greatest. if you follow everyones opinions you will probably make a poor purchase decision.
Oh man. Watching movies? That's a lot different than critical reading or working on the screen. My TV is glossy, and it doesn't bother me either but try reading from it with glare for more than 10 minutes at a time.
In my example above, I didn't have the option to choose my environment. If my client wants to meet at a certain place, then I go. I'm not going to say "I can't go there because the glare is too bad on my laptop". Come on.
If I have a critical project under deadline, I could spend an insane amount of time behind my laptop working to get the project done. Behind a glossy screen, i can't go more than 2 hours at a time before I have to take a break. With a matte screen, I can work 4x as long during a weekend. This productivity translates directly into money.
I think it depends on what you use your laptop for.
This argument is so, so pointless, but I will put forward an opinion.
1.) Watching movies on the glossy screen = better than the matte because of the extra contrast and pop of the colors.
2.) Using a glossy OR matte screen SUCKS outside. Period.
3.) The glossy MBP is preferable to me because it matches my glossy Apple Cinema 24" display, and it also means my photos are better matched across both calibrated displays. (and as a photographer of sorts, I have no issues using the glossy display)
4.) Glossy IS harder on the eyes, but it's something you do just get used to.
5.) I love the black border on my Apple display, and that comes from someone who had a silver border on my previous gen 23" Cinema Display. The black surround really does draw your eyes in to the middle of the screen. Love it.
6.) Arguing on the Internet is like taking part in the Special Olympics.
1.) Watching movies on the glossy screen = better than the matte because of the extra contrast and pop of the colors.
2.) Using a glossy OR matte screen SUCKS outside. Period.
3.) The glossy MBP is preferable to me because it matches my glossy Apple Cinema 24" display, and it also means my photos are better matched across both calibrated displays. (and as a photographer of sorts, I have no issues using the glossy display)
4.) Glossy IS harder on the eyes, but it's something you do just get used to.
5.) I love the black border on my Apple display, and that comes from someone who had a silver border on my previous gen 23" Cinema Display. The black surround really does draw your eyes in to the middle of the screen. Love it.
6.) Arguing on the Internet is like taking part in the Special Olympics.
Those of you who want to see matte, anti-glare screens on the iMac and 13" MBP should leave a comment at http://macmatte.wordpress.com - there's already 500+ comments. The more the better to convince Apple. People said that Apple wouldn't heed such petitions, but there was a MacRumors article that said Apple was indeed monitoring such petitions. Until matte returns to the iMac, the Jobs half done.