It was sarcasm. A tongue-in-cheek response to macbook123's ridiculousness, I would bet.
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MBP Retina and Thunderbolt Display
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It was sarcasm. A tongue-in-cheek response to macbook123's ridiculousness, I would bet.
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)are you implying that he loosens things? Because if that is the case, thats messed up man.
I use 27" thunderbolt display everyday with my MBPr and it works great.
There is one issue though and I'm not sure why it's happening. I was trying Portal 2 and was getting steady 60fps on the retina display at 1920x1200 so I decided to put it on the 27" and play on the large screen. What's weird is that the fps dropped to around 30fps. I also tried with the computer hooked up to my plasma TV via HDMI and was never able to get to 60fps.
Playing on the retina works great, why not on external displays? Is it just my setup? Anyone tried this?
There is one issue though and I'm not sure why it's happening. I was trying Portal 2 and was getting steady 60fps on the retina display at 1920x1200 so I decided to put it on the 27" and play on the large screen. What's weird is that the fps dropped to around 30fps. I also tried with the computer hooked up to my plasma TV via HDMI and was never able to get to 60fps.
Playing on the retina works great, why not on external displays? Is it just my setup? Anyone tried this?
Exactly thats what I was implying.
And I'm glad you can feel better about yourself through joining the mob!
Now I have a suggestion for how you could feel even better about yourself at the start of this wonderful weekend. Make a constructive suggestion for solving my issue with the Retina MacBook pro and external displays!
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It should be, and the responses of others above indicate that this is the case with the retina macbook pros. However with the MacBook Airs there has been a persistent issue for many that makes the laptop display stay awake while in clamshell configuration. I had this issue as well and given how many others had it concluded that it was likely a software glitch Apple is working on. It only started happening after a software update around December of 2011 I think and is still an issue as of now. Anyway back to topic this should be irrelevant with the RMBP, as most people above report it functioning fine with the TB display. Does that answer your question?
I was able to run the IBM T221 at its full 3840x2400 resolution and the full refresh rate (48hz0. This is actually the first laptop I have ever been able to do this on.
It did require the use of two DP -> Dual link DVI adapters though.
It did require the use of two DP -> Dual link DVI adapters though.
Didn't you already solve it by selling your external display instead of figuring it out and just telling ppl it doesn't work, stating as a fact?
No, read again. My current problem is not the TB display, but a 30" HP display connected via MDP-DVI adapter. And stop joining the mob and policing me. You guys are beginning to scare the crap out of me.
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No, you read again. Op asked if TB display worked. You said no. Also, how are a couple of ppl pointing out that you shouldn't state a unique problem as fact ganging up on you? Take it as advice.
Minor problem with rMBP on TD
I've been using the TD for a year with a 13" MacBook Air. While watching the keynote at WWDC I decided to gently and lovingly kick the Air to the curb and upgrade to the rMBP. I use the TD as a dock, connecting all manner of Firewire drives, USB drives and a CD drive through the TD. For the most part it has worked great. The only issue I have had is in the Mail app.
When "hot" docking the rMBP (i.e. with it powered up), Mail appears to be fine. However scrolling either the 2nd (message) or 3rd (preview) columns causes display issues. Scrolling slowly causes the text to go out of focus. Scrolling fast causes it to smear. This happens ONLY in Mail. All other apps are perfect. It does not happen if the rMBP is powered up after connecting to the TD, only if it is connected while powered.
Using Code Krieger's gfxStatus app (http://codykrieger.com/gfxCardStatus) I have discovered that the TD requires the nVidia graphics chip to be used. His app allows you to force the graphics mode. If I force it to integrated, the display goes off, and on one occasion caused a kernel panic crash. After rebooting from the crash the display was perfect, even in Mail. Once Mail works correctly, it stays that way all day. Undocking with power on also works fine, using the rMBP screen as the display.
While this could be some kind of weird chip problem, I'm not going to address it with Apple until I install Mountain Lion to see if that works differently. In all other respects, the docked rMBP is a dream to use. It's scary fast, cool running, and in all respects the best computer I've ever owned. The combination of it and the TD gives me a fabulous desktop that I can take with me.
I've been using the TD for a year with a 13" MacBook Air. While watching the keynote at WWDC I decided to gently and lovingly kick the Air to the curb and upgrade to the rMBP. I use the TD as a dock, connecting all manner of Firewire drives, USB drives and a CD drive through the TD. For the most part it has worked great. The only issue I have had is in the Mail app.
When "hot" docking the rMBP (i.e. with it powered up), Mail appears to be fine. However scrolling either the 2nd (message) or 3rd (preview) columns causes display issues. Scrolling slowly causes the text to go out of focus. Scrolling fast causes it to smear. This happens ONLY in Mail. All other apps are perfect. It does not happen if the rMBP is powered up after connecting to the TD, only if it is connected while powered.
Using Code Krieger's gfxStatus app (http://codykrieger.com/gfxCardStatus) I have discovered that the TD requires the nVidia graphics chip to be used. His app allows you to force the graphics mode. If I force it to integrated, the display goes off, and on one occasion caused a kernel panic crash. After rebooting from the crash the display was perfect, even in Mail. Once Mail works correctly, it stays that way all day. Undocking with power on also works fine, using the rMBP screen as the display.
While this could be some kind of weird chip problem, I'm not going to address it with Apple until I install Mountain Lion to see if that works differently. In all other respects, the docked rMBP is a dream to use. It's scary fast, cool running, and in all respects the best computer I've ever owned. The combination of it and the TD gives me a fabulous desktop that I can take with me.
Continuing problem
I am having a problem with my rMBP and TB display. Everything seemed to work fine. However, I could not get my rMBP to shut off using the drop down menu. I have to manually power it off using the power key. I am working with Apple Tech Support on the issue. One of the recommendations the tech person made was that the TB does not provide sufficient power and that I should use the power supply that came with the rMBP!
Has anyone experienced this problem? Recommendations?
I'm continuing to work with tech support but not resolved yet.
Thanks.
I am having a problem with my rMBP and TB display. Everything seemed to work fine. However, I could not get my rMBP to shut off using the drop down menu. I have to manually power it off using the power key. I am working with Apple Tech Support on the issue. One of the recommendations the tech person made was that the TB does not provide sufficient power and that I should use the power supply that came with the rMBP!
Has anyone experienced this problem? Recommendations?
I'm continuing to work with tech support but not resolved yet.
Thanks.
I got a replacement RMBP and it does not have the problem the previous one had.
Btw, I downloaded gfxcardstatus and noticed that the integrated graphics card is not able to run the external monitor at all, which is odd because the HD3000 on my old Air was able to run it just fine. Thought this was worth pointing out to other folks here.
Btw, I downloaded gfxcardstatus and noticed that the integrated graphics card is not able to run the external monitor at all, which is odd because the HD3000 on my old Air was able to run it just fine. Thought this was worth pointing out to other folks here.
Current attempt to solve problem
Worked with Apple tech this PM. RMBP is working fine independently. Did update with today's software update. Returning TB to Apple. Successfully mated it to my old, reliable 23" Cinema Display (vintage 2006). Seems to work. Powered down twice just fine. I can't specifically identify what I did to correct the problem but it appears to be solved.
Worked with Apple tech this PM. RMBP is working fine independently. Did update with today's software update. Returning TB to Apple. Successfully mated it to my old, reliable 23" Cinema Display (vintage 2006). Seems to work. Powered down twice just fine. I can't specifically identify what I did to correct the problem but it appears to be solved.
Problem not solved
I spoke too quickly. Even with my new configuration, the problem occurred again when I tried to shut down this evening.
I'll continue to work with the Apple tech folks and post any progress.
Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions are most welcome.
I spoke too quickly. Even with my new configuration, the problem occurred again when I tried to shut down this evening.
I'll continue to work with the Apple tech folks and post any progress.
Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions are most welcome.
The integrated GPU in the 15" MacBook Pros (both retina and non-retina) are not wired to drive an external display. You must use the dedicated GPU to drive anything off of the miniDisplayPort/Thunderbolt port.
Shucks. Woulda thought Apple "fixed" this in the newest MBPs (including the Retina).
The Intel 4000HD is a fairly fast GPU.
Do you really have a thunderbolt cable or a displayport cable?
Older Displayport cables will not work as they need to support thunderbolt signals. I went through this and had to buy more expensive cables so that I could hide the dongle behind the desk. The cheap displayport cables will not work.
If you have a thunderbolt cable then perhaps its gone bad.
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Why do you have to be rude?
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No, I'd still look at you in disbelief and tell you that your comment was absolute BS in person, stating simply "It doesn't work", when someone innocently is asking if the TD display is compatible or not.
Maybe think twice about commenting on someone's question with your own unique technical issue.
Next time say "it should work, but I'm having issues". See the difference?
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The only time I see a hint of lag on my rMBP is on Facebook scrolling fast, I wonder if it's the way the site was programmed? But I could really careless about FB
To answer your question though, no I see no lag on the TB Display.
Dude you act like a jerk and when called on it act like a bigger jerk. Give it a rest.
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If you can, take the rMBP to an Apple store and hook up there to see if its the same. Perhaps you have a defective unit.
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Because most here respond like asses taking statements way to personal. Alsmost like they are some sort of Apple police force.
While I agree macbook123 made an incorrect sweeping statement, you all did not need to be jerks about in your responses.
Its one of the things I hate about MR...you all think your being cute, sarcastic or helpful but mostly you come across as jerks....
I can also confirm that it works perfectly with the Thunderbolt display. Not sure what macbook123 is experiencing but it's not a general problem. The only thing I notice is that the resolution on the Thunderbolt is obviously lower but still very nice. Also when I run the rMBP on battery with the TD connected, the only way the display works and stays on is if I quit the graphics card switcher app
gfxCardStatus which I use to maximize battery life. Otherwise all works well.