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Non geeks that find themselves buying tech without researching (we all know there are millions) are going to go through the realisation of the facts exactly as Eso just mentioned it in his post:

Non-geeks don't care as much as you do.

You can sit there and list off 100 technical reasons why this or that. But all a normal human wants to know is - does it check my mail, can I play my music, can I get email, can I get to Facebook? You might find it shocking that someone could buy a device without finding out what sort of screws are holding the mainboard to the body (and being horrified if they're Phillips head instead of flat, or vice versa), but the "facts" as you singularly perceive them are not necessarily the same facts that drive anyone else. I mean, there's a whole contingent out there who are horrified that it doesn't run Linux. They can't imagine how you could consider such a device, never mind your list. So are their "facts" more pertinent than yours? (Psst: it's opinion, not facts, because it's your opinion that those things are even important.)

Here's a hint: all those boring technical things you studied and researched - regular people stopped caring or being impressed by them. There was a change a long time ago where techno-geek knowledge became less useful. People no longer base their purchases on the fact a geeks says you have to have 6 PCI card slots or don't accept anything without X amount of L2 cache. Technology is now a commodity, it's pervasive, and it's now task-oriented. People are no longer as intimidated or helpless as they used to be, they know what technology can do for them, and they're not looking for their hands to be held by someone who can spit techno-jargon at them. There are things they want to get done, and they just want to know that they can do them.

You can sit there and spin yourself into a frenzy about how it doesn't have multitasking or doesn't have this or doesn't have that. And you'll be able to work your fellow geeks into a frenzy as well. But explain it to a regular person and watch for the moment when their eyes glaze over.

BTW, I'm not saying it's perfect. But you should have figured out long ago that Apple's first iteration is always targeted at a big chunk of the needs of a big chunk of the population. Remember where we were 2+ years ago? People were saying the iPhone would never work because it was missing one thing or another. Now look where we are, and look what happened to most of that list.

I think one thing the geeks have trouble grasping is that the first iteration of anything is probably not made for them. They might be the most aware of what's happening in the technology world, but they get disappointed when their very specific needs/requirements/demands aren't met. Well, of course not. Why would any company target 100% of the needs of 5% of the population, when they can meet 90% of the needs of 90% of the population? And then fine-tune based on the drivers for those needs.
 
I think the iPad won't ever be on full OSX. The iPhone OS may get tweaks and upgrades; but as long as x86 based processors continue to draw more than 10 watts, a half inch thick tablet running full OSX for 10 hours straight is simply impossible.
 
McGraw-Hill don't get it.

They just don't get it.

Somebody within a year will make it very easy to publish an educational e-book. Printing is an exclusive club. In the near future it will not be and the first wall to break down will be the educational market.

As a teacher these are very exciting times. There are very few good textbooks. Textbooks are full of inaccuracies due to errors or just due to new discoveries. A tool like the iPad can be used far more effectively than a static textbook.

McGraw-Hill made the mistake that they thought they are bigger than the media they publish on. Put another way. McGraw-Hill may be a big train but Apple builds and controls the train tracks.
 
Non-geeks don't care as much as you do.

You can sit there and list off 100 technical reasons why this or that. But all a normal human wants to know is - does it check my mail, can I play my music, can I get email, can I get to Facebook? You might find it shocking that someone could buy a device without finding out what sort of screws are holding the mainboard to the body (and being horrified if they're Phillips head instead of flat, or vice versa), but the "facts" as you singularly perceive them are not necessarily the same facts that drive anyone else. I mean, there's a whole contingent out there who are horrified that it doesn't run Linux. They can't imagine how you could consider such a device, never mind your list. So are their "facts" more pertinent than yours? (Psst: it's opinion, not facts, because it's your opinion that those things are even important.)

Here's a hint: all those boring technical things you studied and researched - regular people stopped caring or being impressed by them. There was a change a long time ago where techno-geek knowledge became less useful. People no longer base their purchases on the fact a geeks says you have to have 6 PCI card slots or don't accept anything without X amount of L2 cache. Technology is now a commodity, it's pervasive, and it's now task-oriented. People are no longer as intimidated or helpless as they used to be, they know what technology can do for them, and they're not looking for their hands to be held by someone who can spit techno-jargon at them. There are things they want to get done, and they just want to know that they can do them.

You can sit there and spin yourself into a frenzy about how it doesn't have multitasking or doesn't have this or doesn't have that. And you'll be able to work your fellow geeks into a frenzy as well. But explain it to a regular person and watch for the moment when their eyes glaze over.

BTW, I'm not saying it's perfect. But you should have figured out long ago that Apple's first iteration is always targeted at a big chunk of the needs of a big chunk of the population. Remember where we were 2+ years ago? People were saying the iPhone would never work because it was missing one thing or another. Now look where we are, and look what happened to most of that list.

I think one thing the geeks have trouble grasping is that the first iteration of anything is probably not made for them. They might be the most aware of what's happening in the technology world, but they get disappointed when their very specific needs/requirements/demands aren't met. Well, of course not. Why would any company target 100% of the needs of 5% of the population, when they can meet 90% of the needs of 90% of the population? And then fine-tune based on the drivers for those needs.

Out of all that I got that ur one more of those that only needs a device to check facebook and check his email and oddly use the calculator for all those FACTUAL and well researched percentages you go on about, so yes you are absolutely right this will fit ur needs.

And btw I never said I dont like this device cause it doesnt target my needs, all I stated was the obvious that MANY of us would like to see an apple tablet running OSX plus seconding the opinion of what is most certainly going to be proven when people buy this without knowing of it's lack of features. And before u go on about this I agree fully THAT BY NO MEANS THIS FEATURES WERE ADVERTISED TO BE IN THE PRODUCT IN THE FIRST PLACE, but the surprised faces are coming nonetheless and the customer WILL BE FULLY AT FAULT FOR NOT RESEARCHING, but again eyebrows will rise no matter if it's their own fault.

No need to get on a twist, I wish my needs were as minimal as the your so called and well researched and factually checked: "90% of the population" though but for those basic on the move needs fortunately I already got an iPhone which if you have read carefully in my post before just go ranting you would have noticed that I used as an example of where we are already and that I hope the same goes for this tablet which now I'm gonna have to wait couple of revisions to consider buying, cause YES I am a big Apple fan.

But tell me honestly (actually tell yourself cause you don't strike me as the admitting kind of fellow) that u wont be a little bit bummed out when u receive a movie clip in ur mail and u can't see it since it's not supported, there are a thousand of examples like this that I wont go on about.

Don't get all worked up my friend, if the iPad is the thing u were waiting for and ur all happy about it, and it meets all your needs, congratulations, I'm very pleased for you.

Oh and I wasn't taking a crack at the product at all, if you read carefully u would realise that I was just agreeing and adding to the comment of another member plus stating a request of my own, which by the way is the purpose of a Forum like this one.

Have a fab day wherever u might be.
 
Double standard here in MacRumors:Forums?

Let me just say that this CEO should have known better. Keep your mouth shut when asked about another company's product.

In his defense, I'm sure he doesn't get invited to be a part of top-secret project very often and his products don't have the same cult following as Apple's. He was just excited to be on TV and I'm sure he called his mom before the show aired.

But the real issue I see is:
It's interesting how much this website feeds on every little scrap of information / leak / rumor / crappy photo / misspeak / etc. But yet as soon as someone is caught doing it (even by mistake), out come the whips and chants for a new CEO.

Do you like these slip-ups & leaks, intended or not, from non-Apple people?

  • Yes? - Then quit saying "He get's what he deserves"... or "Don't mess with Jobs!"
  • No? - Then quit reading this site. This site is made to talk about RUMORS. Slip-ups like this are what feed this web community.
 
Let me just say that this CEO should have known better. Keep your mouth shut when asked about another company's product.

In his defense, I'm sure he doesn't get invited to be a part of top-secret project very often and his products don't have the same cult following as Apple's. He was just excited to be on TV and I'm sure he called his mom before the show aired.

But the real issue I see is:
It's interesting how much this website feeds on every little scrap of information / leak / rumor / crappy photo / misspeak / etc. But yet as soon as someone is caught doing it (even by mistake), out come the whips and chants for a new CEO.

Do you like these slip-ups & leaks, intended or not, from non-Apple people?

  • Yes? - Then quit saying "He get's what he deserves"... or "Don't mess with Jobs!"
  • No? - Then quit reading this site. This site is made to talk about RUMORS. Slip-ups like this are what feed this web community.
I think it's funny you started your post saying that he should have known better but end it with saying that you should either stop saying that or stop reading the site.
 
That's lame. In a perfect world, Jobs would've been too busy talking to ATI and NVIDIA about getting more OS X GPU support to notice this slip. ;)
 
Did ANYONE read the Update?

Apple didn't drop them. They weren't officially signed on.

The interview was not confirming anything, he was speaking just as you or I would "apple's tablet's coming out tomorrow! cool!".

No bad blood.
 
Apple didn't drop them. They weren't officially signed on.

The interview was not confirming anything, he was speaking just as you or I would "apple's tablet's coming out tomorrow! cool!".

No bad blood.

Yes, plenty of people read the update and the full article containing the MH explanation of what Terry McGraw was/was not doing. It has been discussed, and some people don't believe the explanation.

Did YOU read the rest of the thread where people were already discussing this?
 
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