He's a troll! Saying he doesn't object would be OK, but to support it implies that he is in agreement with the rationale, which is, what? He never explains, nor does he intend to. Of course the other reason fo the 100% might be to anger everyone.
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Memory in New $1099 iMac is Soldered and Not Upgradable
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He's a troll! Saying he doesn't object would be OK, but to support it implies that he is in agreement with the rationale, which is, what? He never explains, nor does he intend to. Of course the other reason fo the 100% might be to anger everyone.
Apple is realizing it can reduce size and price by nailing down RAM.
Face it: people buy phones and iPads and iPods without being able to change out RAM, so why not in the "low-end" computers? 8GB is plenty for such an outdated processor.
Face it: people buy phones and iPads and iPods without being able to change out RAM, so why not in the "low-end" computers? 8GB is plenty for such an outdated processor.
True but they are using a very very slow mobile CPU in this iMac. I still don't think a 1.4 Ghz CPU will hold up will in 2-3 years.
Anyone know what the 2032 watch battery in the picture is doing? And how does one replace it when it is depleted? It must almost never be being used or else it would get depleted in a few years and it looks very hard to replace.
The more we learn about this computer, the more I become convinced that it is not intended for home use. It is for schools, libraries, hotel computer centers, shops, receptionists, etc. It looks great and it will work fine for a traveler to check their email or a receptionist to log visitors. It will be put in places where it will be loaded with a handful of data entry type software and then be intended to sit there doing just a handful of things for the next five years. And it will do that great and look fantastic doing it.
The more we learn about this computer, the more I become convinced that it is not intended for home use. It is for schools, libraries, hotel computer centers, shops, receptionists, etc. It looks great and it will work fine for a traveler to check their email or a receptionist to log visitors. It will be put in places where it will be loaded with a handful of data entry type software and then be intended to sit there doing just a handful of things for the next five years. And it will do that great and look fantastic doing it.
Yes, it is quite surprising that Apple would even consider releasing a product like this. They have to know you can already buy the $1299 version for $1099 all day long from resellers.
If this is not a test market for completely not upgradeable iMac, then I can't figure out why they would make such a decision.
Yes, $200 for a single purchase is no big deal but when you are an instution about to buy 100+ imacs, it becomes a big deal.
Not even RAM is upgradable anymore? Laaaammmmme.
Apple is continuing their drive to seal the computers from the consumer. If you remember, the original macintosh was sealed and you needed a special mac cracker to open it up. I see apple is continuing that approach
Apple is continuing their drive to seal the computers from the consumer. If you remember, the original macintosh was sealed and you needed a special mac cracker to open it up. I see apple is continuing that approach
A good point but regretfully not a welcome one for this poster. I've extended the life of many a Mac by upgrading the RAM and now this is looking like a thing of the past it just gives me less reasons to buy a new Mac.
It seems Apple recently just doesn't want my custom. I guess I'm not their target market anymore.
I agree, Apple's strategic direction for their computers is one that is counter to what I want. This is but one action that illustrates a philosophy that leaves me disappointed
It's Apple, nothing unusual here. I'm waiting to find out what exact CPU it uses, because I'm pretty sure the one in my tablet is faster.
Seriously you guys. I max out my RAM with every computer I get. You probably do to. But you have to realise that we - you and me - who hang out on nerdy boards like this ARE NOT THE FREAKING NORM.
And yes, for most people who don't use their computer for more than surfing and bittorrenting movies and the occasional bout of productive work sending emails or making word documents will never ever need more than 8GB of RAM to comfortably use their computer for the foreseeable future.
This is not a "640Kb ought to be enough for everyone" situation. Computing power has plateaued for the last half a decade to the point where most people can't tell the difference between using a 2010 MBA or a 2014 one.
Please realise that YOU are the odd one out and deal with it.
And yes, for most people who don't use their computer for more than surfing and bittorrenting movies and the occasional bout of productive work sending emails or making word documents will never ever need more than 8GB of RAM to comfortably use their computer for the foreseeable future.
This is not a "640Kb ought to be enough for everyone" situation. Computing power has plateaued for the last half a decade to the point where most people can't tell the difference between using a 2010 MBA or a 2014 one.
Please realise that YOU are the odd one out and deal with it.
You're right, we're not the norm, but this isn't the 80s any more, more people have basic knowledge about computers than ever before. Apple needs to stop thinking all of its customer base are stupid.
Then again, it's kinda well known that those who like to tinker get PC and Android.
Pretty much all software, apart from perhaps drivers and hacking crew demo's is written in bloatware these days.
Gone are the days of someone learning assembly language on their 1K Sinclair Spectrum.
Chess in 1K
BIG games written in 8K
No one expects to upgrade memory in a mobile device such as iPad (common sense calling, hello).
But I expect to do it on an iMac which is non portable, moveable desktop Mac.
apple is clearly trying to open up completely new markets for themselves. they want to give the other 99% a piece of the ecosystem too which i think is a great plan. sure it should be cheaper strictly speaking on paper for the hardware we see but it gives entry into the world of apple software and services without killing their margins and at a price that is justifiable to the market that up until now may have preferred other mid-tier competitors products. in the end it should really help their services like messages and facetime become a lot more ubiquitous.
Then don't buy it. Clearly it's not for you. 99% of people don't care. They use facebook. They don't need a super computer.
Man you elitest think Apple only releases products thinking about you. This is for the general public.
If you want something super awesome get a mac pro.
Did you see me say anything about me buying it? No, I Said what about the people that can't afford the high premiums. How it that being an elitist? Yeah it's for the general public so are PCs and they can be upgraded when they need to be and the don't cost $1,100.
So why exactly does my Dad, or sister, or most of my coworkers, or the network nodes in my office, or nearly any other "average" entry level user this iMac is targeted towards need more than 8GB? Still haven't heard a single argument here based on any thing that actually matters. I would never buy this for myself, but it's still a lower cost entry point for many many people who will never even max out an entry level machine.
BTW in 20 years or so of building PC's, I've seen more screwy issues come from socketed ram than any other piece in a PC except the hard drives and Power supply. Pretty sure any tech would say the same.
BTW in 20 years or so of building PC's, I've seen more screwy issues come from socketed ram than any other piece in a PC except the hard drives and Power supply. Pretty sure any tech would say the same.
Which is why you would not buy this iMac. This is clearly intended for Apple to enter emerging markets with. You will get your retina super option iMac soon enough I suspect.
The problem is that the performance and parts justify a price of $599, not $1099.
Did you see me say anything about me buying it? No, I Said what about the people that can't afford the high premiums. How it that being an elitist? Yeah it's for the general public so are PCs and they can be upgraded when they need to be and the don't cost $1,100.
...and they do not come with OSX nor do they mingle friendly with the Apple ecosystem. Their margins are all about pay to play. The hardware just needs to looks nice and maintain a reasonable level of performance. With advances like Swift I suspect Apple will be able to deliver even lower spec hardware in the future and charge even more for it. Software also has a lot to do with performance.