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iWork can open Word documents, but sometimes the formatting makes everything go wacko in the transition. To show somebody files, I usually export everything to a PDF to maintain formatting among both platforms and all programs.

I actually like Pages better, after struggling for hours last semester in Word with getting 30 pg my engineering report just right. Word was much slower at handling all the graphics, and couldn't align the images like I needed them.

Numbers, while good for everything I need, is not as powerful as some others want it to be.

Keynote is fantastic. Presentations look polished and professional.



I agree with all of that. Numbers is good for most, but Excel is a lot more powerful. For the average user though, numbers is fine.

Also, I've only had trouble with Pages when using a template to create something. When I do that and save it as a Word Doc, it doesn't always translate well.
 
Right, so after 11 pages of debate and 100 different opinions of everybody all knowing exactly how it will work (and each a different way, at that), there's no definitive answer, besides:
- 169 for the snow leopard w/ all the iCrap included (so is there any definitive solutions that you can get a stand-alone snow leopard copy?)

But for $50 you get a multi-user leopard upgrade (5) and for $30 you get a single leopard upgrade, and for $10 you get a single user upgrade if you purchased it recently.

Though as for the how verification works, if you can fresh install, and all of that jazz, everything is just speculation on how it will work, am I understanding this correctly?
 
Though as for the how verification works, if you can fresh install, and all of that jazz, everything is just speculation on how it will work, am I understanding this correctly?

No. You can clean install from Disk Utility, as per a recent MR post.

- Options to "Erase and Install" and "Archive and Install" are no longer present in the Mac OS X 10.6 installer. According to those familiar with the software, this was done for convenience, so that users do not accidentally erase and install their Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard partitions. However, "Erase and Install" remains available through Disk Utility, which is also included on the installation DVD.

You can also upgrade from Tiger with any of the discs, seeing as they are all the same - UTD, upgrade, and Box Set.

"But here's a tip: Apple concedes that the $29 Snow Leopard upgrade will work properly on these Tiger-equipped Macs, so you can save the extra $140."
http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/...ends-illegal-use-of-snow-leopard-install-disc
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You can also clean install on blank hard drive.
Snow Leopard installation DID complete on a formatted hard drive without ever even asking me for the Leopard DVD. I'm surprised!
http://lifehacker.com/5345690/prep-your-mac-for-snow-leopard
 
just cancelled my amazon order

being a tiger user i think i'll sit this out until tomorrow and see if you really can use the cheap disc to upgrade then get my sister to buy the appropriate version from regents street

but i guess it's likely to be true

just saved myself £100!
 
So, no matter what version you buy all of the installer discs for SL are the same? All i want is an Archive and Install over the top of Tiger. I really dont need iLife09, or iWank09. We really need a tiger user to confirm . . . nervous.
 
So how does it look with the $29 ?

Can we make a clean install without Leopard installed ?

I bought the $29 version this morning at best buy. I also received a new HD in the mail yesterday for my macbook. I am half way through a fresh install. It has worked with no problems to note. Ill send an update when i am at a desktop.
 
I bought the $29 version this morning at best buy. I also received a new HD in the mail yesterday for my macbook. I am half way through a fresh install. It has worked with no problems to note. Ill send an update when i am at a desktop.

Awesome. This is juicy info - let us know how it goes.
 
I bought the $29 version this morning at best buy. I also received a new HD in the mail yesterday for my macbook. I am half way through a fresh install. It has worked with no problems to note. Ill send an update when i am at a desktop.

Yup, trying the a similar thing. I cleared my HDD to nothing, now I'm installing Snow Leopard
 
Yup, trying the a similar thing. I cleared my HDD to nothing, now I'm installing Snow Leopard

I would like to do the same thing. In stall on a brand new HDD. Please post if this works. Thanks.
 
I just upgraded from tiger to snow leopard and it work perfectly, using the upgrade dvd not the box set
 
My SL upgrade says "retail" on the bottom.
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I can confirm that if you hold down C you can do a fresh install.

Apple, I'm pretty sure, knows that there is no difference between the retail and upgrade. They just want everyone to move over to Snow Leopard.
 
I am not sure if this has been already answered but can i do Fresh Install of 10.6 which i purchased for $29 or do I need to install 10.5 first and then 10.6.
 
My SL upgrade says "retail" on the bottom.
MC223Z/A

I can confirm that if you hold down C you can do a fresh install.

Apple, I'm pretty sure, knows that there is no difference between the retail and upgrade. They just want everyone to move over to Snow Leopard.

Where do you select to do clean install, i did start with pressing C but I dont get option anywhere to do clean install?!?
 
So in conclusion, it's all the same, and the only reason the $170 one exists is to save $20 off of snow leopard + iWork '09 + iLife '09?

And any can install cleanly on any (Intel arch) Tiger or Leopard Mac with OS 10.4/10.5 (Tiger/Leopard) on it?

And that there's no verification what-so-ever? (So how does it know if you have Tiger or Leopard pre-installed??)

Sorry if this seems a bit redundant, just want to get all the facts straightened out - I'm eligible for the $10 leopard as I just got my new MBP yesterday, but my g/f is still using Tiger and doesn't use any of the iStuff - so I'm more concerned about having to (or not having to) pay the $170 for that - from the looks of it, I can just purchase 2 of the $30 ones and be golden?
 
Where do you select to do clean install, i did start with pressing C but I dont get option anywhere to do clean install?!?

1. pop the disc in
2. restart
3. hold c down until the osx boot comes up
4. use disk utility to wipe drive (HFS+ Journaled)
5. close disk utility
6. continue installation

And that there's no verification what-so-ever?

none at all.

hopefully soon someone puts up the crc hashes of both disks so we can finally confirm that there is no difference.

also if you're in the us, best buy has it for $24.99
just get it price matched online if the store one is not.
 
Can I buy the the 'upgrade' thing instead of the Box Set, and do an Archive and Install over my current Tiger system? . . .I am so nervous about buying the wrong thing.
 
Can I buy the the 'upgrade' thing instead of the Box Set, and do an Archive and Install over my current Tiger system? . . .I am so nervous about buying the wrong thing.

from my understanding no, If you have an external hard drive spare I would recommend that you back up anything you think is important and format your hard drive and then install SL , thats what I did.
 
Installed a new SSD into my 17" unibody and installed SL on top with no issues. I think it is more of a honor system than anything else.

Sorta like the pay what you want scheme for some games now.

It's nice Apple didn't go stuff their OS full of DRM, keys, genuine advantage, etc.
 
I gotta say, this thread is actually starting to drive me nuts . . .I cannot get a REAL DEFINITIVE answer.

It will cost $230 Australian for the Box Set, and about $50 for Snow Leopard.

I do not want iLife, or iWork . . .I mean, really? does anyone really use that stuff?


I just want to know if there is any difference in the discs from the box set, to any other version . . . ahhhhh!!!!:eek:
 
I gotta say, this thread is actually starting to drive me nuts . . .I cannot get a REAL DEFINITIVE answer.

It will cost $230 Australian for the Box Set, and about $50 for Snow Leopard.

I do not want iLife, or iWork . . .I mean, really? does anyone really use that stuff?


I just want to know if there is any difference in the discs from the box set, to any other version . . . ahhhhh!!!!:eek:
It's easy: there is only ONE (1) kind of Snow Leopard disk. They are all the same.

But it's not about the disk itself, it's about what's legal. If you don't own Leopard — i.e. if you didn't pay $129 bucks or so for it in the past — buying the $29 upgrade to SL is illegal. Sure, it'll install just fine, even without Leopard or even on an empty disk, but that doesn't make it legal. Just as installing a single licence SL on 5 different Macs works just fine, but still isn't legal.
 
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