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[Merged] $29 Snow Leopard vs. $169 Box Set Questions

https://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/12/os-x-snow-leopard-installation-process-changes-described/

- Options to "Erase and Install" and "Archive and Install" are no longer present in the Mac OS X 10.6 installer. According to those familiar with the software, this was done for convenience, so that users do not accidentally erase and install their Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard partitions. However, "Erase and Install" remains available through Disk Utility, which is also included on the installation DVD.

- If you need to reinstall 10.6, it automatically archives and installs for you.
 
I'm sure that the dvd in the 29$ version is identical to the one in the 129$, having the full OS and not just the upgrade on it.
In fact, if you can perform via utility disk "erase and install", it means that once erased it has to install, doesn't it?

Probably it just checks on the Hd if you have leopard and if not it doesn't proceed.

If I'm right, the next time you have to initialize, you won't need to have you previous Leopard disk but just the SL disk, as long as you "erase" or "initialize" from the "utility disk" booted from SL dvd.

Am i wrong?
 
applecheese said:
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/12/os-x-snow-leopard-installation-process-changes-described/

- Options to "Erase and Install" and "Archive and Install" are no longer present in the Mac OS X 10.6 installer. According to those familiar with the software, this was done for convenience, so that users do not accidentally erase and install their Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard partitions. However, "Erase and Install" remains available through Disk Utility, which is also included on the installation DVD.

- If you need to reinstall 10.6, it automatically archives and installs for you.
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ok but the question here is if those functions will be available in the upgrade version when you do not have Leopard installed.
 
So my macbook pro came with 10.4.7 (Intel Core 2 Duo)

I hope they have a rebate programme for people who have already purchased iLife if this is the case, it's bonkers. What makes this any different now to 10.5.9 or whatever? Nothing.. it's a joke.
 
Reading this thread is insane. You people just do not get it. Those who do are getting confused by those who don't.

Snow Leopard is an UPGRADE. That is why it is $29.00 USD. In order to use Snow Leopard you need Leopard installed. If you have Leopard installed, you get it for $29.

Get it?

If you don't have a Leopard install, you need to buy Leopard/Snow Leopard. This is included in the Mac Box Set. They are also including the iLife and iWork suites in this package. If you don't want iLife/iWork 09, buy the Leopard box and Snow Leopard.

It is this way so that people (like me) who upgraded to 10.5 are not overcharged and so that 10.4 users do not get a free upgrade to Leopard for $29.00.

You would think that people had to check their brains at the door in this thread... seriously.
 
My take on things re. $29 or £xxx disks

if the above disk is only an upgrade I feel let down IMHO if it detects 10.5.x or 10.6.x then the utils drop down should allow a erase and install

The boxed set which includes ilife 9 and a full copy of 10.6.0?

I have purchased ilife 9 when it came out and I am certainly buying it again :mad:

But this is the workround that worked with the Leo drop in disk's to enable you to install to a new raw HD

http://muzso.hu/2008/02/21/how-to-install-leopard-from-a-cpu-drop-in-dvd-without-tiger
 
I know that I am in the minority here, but I am receiving my X25-M (160GB) on Thursday. So I am planning on going from a blank SSD right to Snow Leopard. All I want is for the Snow Leopard installer to ask me to insert my Leopard Install DVD as part of the Snow Leopard "upgrade" process.

It isn't like I will be reinstalling SL on a frequent basis, but, I am lazy and don't want to have to go through the hassle of installing two OSs this weekend. I think that Apple is smart enough to allow this type of upgrade, just to avoid the bad publicity from nerds like us. And you know that all of the Windows junkies will be pointing out that MS has been allowing this method for OS upgrade discs for over a decade.

Either way, I am doing the upgrade. I just don't know how long it will take at this point.

Waiting with the rest of you,
Hickman
 
Markleshark said:
I think thats the main point here. Sales reps GENERALLY don't really know. It's fine, Friday will be here soon enough.
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Thats a pity. Apple is releasing a whole new OS with a whole new upgrade plan and they didnt take 10 minutes to send an email to the support staff. Another sign of Apple's great customer service i suppose :rolleyes:
 
giorfa said:
I'm sure that the dvd in the 29$ version is identical to the one in the 129$, having the full OS and not just the upgrade on it.
In fact, if you can perform via utility disk "erase and install", it means that once erased it has to install, doesn't it?

Probably it just checks on the Hd if you have leopard and if not it doesn't proceed.

If I'm right, the next time you have to initialize, you won't need to have you previous Leopard disk but just the SL disk, as long as you "erase" or "initialize" from the "utility disk" booted from SL dvd.

Am i wrong?
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there is no $129 one. only the $169 box set.
 
bjorn989 said:
Reading this thread is insane. You people just do not get it. Those who do are getting confused by those who don't.

Snow Leopard is an UPGRADE. That is why it is $29.00 USD. In order to use Snow Leopard you need Leopard installed. If you have Leopard installed, you get it for $29.

Get it?

If you don't have a Leopard install, you need to buy Leopard/Snow Leopard. This is included in the Mac Box Set. They are also including the iLife and iWork suites in this package. If you don't want iLife/iWork 09, buy the Leopard box and Snow Leopard.

It is this way so that people (like me) who upgraded to 10.5 are not overcharged and so that 10.4 users do not get a free upgrade to Leopard for $29.00.

You would think that people had to check their brains at the door in this thread... seriously.
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No YOU don't get why people need to know this info.

3 years from now, SL is bloated with crap on their machine. User wants to reinstall from scratch. Eg wipe the drive clean then install a new OS.

Folks want to know if they will need to keep a good track on their Leopard disk that came with the machine or not. Folks want to know how much time will be wasted if they have to install leopard first, then SL to achieve aforementioned goal of a clean install.

Folks would be very happy if all they have to keep track of is the $29 DVD of snow leopard to achieve the clean install.

Problems as seen from chat history's is that folks are getting conflicting guidance.


I am on the fence on weather I care if I have to install Leopard first then SL to reinstall the OS clean.
 
I still have Tiger, can I update to Snow Leopard without getting Leopard first?

My Macbook was out of commission for a while, so I never immediately upgraded to Leopard. I was planning on it, but now I hear Snow Leopard is coming out. So is it possible to skip running Leopard and just do an up-upgrade? Will it cost more to do this? Any advise?
 
From Apple's site at http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

"Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.

If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set, which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard; iLife ’09, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork ’09, Apple’s productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote."


There you go. :cool:
 
xxSpudxx said:
Folks would be very happy if all they have to keep track of is the $29 DVD of snow leopard to achieve the clean install.
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Indeed. I wish SL was a full upgrade -- and I paid full fare for Leopard in '07. I don't care if the 10.4 holdouts get a cheap upgrade two years on. I'd prefer to not worry about managing my 10.5 Family Pack DVD and the separate 10.6 DVD.
 
Remember, you get both iLife and iWork with the Box Set for your extra money.

(Said extra money being a whole $11 more than the price of the original 10.5 plus the 10.6 upgrade disc, I might add: $129 + $29 = $158 vs $169.)
 
bbotte said:
It will look for Lepoard first, then you will be able to choose to do a fresh install if you want, it will either A)Upgrade, B)archive and install or C)erase and install, windows has been doing this since XP. Why is this hard to understand. You just need to put the DVD in on your leopard machine and follow the steps, just don't choose upgrade people. Follow the instructions....
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What is the difference between A and B and why not choose A.

I back up with time machine and would like to do a clean install of SL, would I be able to recover from my time machine even though it was backed up on Leopard and basically have the same machine b4 installing SL, i.e. colour profiles, safari bookmarks etc and if there are incompatible programs etc will they be installed and just won't run? One last question for the likes of aperture etc I have the retail version but will it back up with the key code so I won't have to type it in again, just curious?

Also who else will be doing a clean install and restoring from time machine?
 
Jolly Jimmy said:
No need to "keep track" of 2 DVD's. Just put them in the same place. :confused:
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It does sound that simple yes.. However when you work in IT, some DVD's have ways of walking out pretty easily. But i think the bigger issue isnt really keeping the original DVD, just that you have to install leopard first to do a clean/wipe install a few years...days...down the road.. if that is what you need to do.


My beef is more about iWork and iLife. I purchased iWork seperately with my iMac in february. Pretty dumb that I have to buy it again to get a complete install DVD.

Mostly i just like bitching about it. In the end, i will prob deal with the upgrade DVD and keep leopard with it.

But it is the interwebs and it wouldnt be alive w/out all the bitching and moaning now would it?
 
Yeah, I think the DVD manufacturing plant Apple buys from charges by the megabyte. They should just release a standalone "normal" copy of SL as with every previous major release that has the entire OS on it and not jsut an upgrade.
 
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