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Thanks for the pics! The non-glossy does look exceptionally good... I think Apple needs to be a little more careful in future, there's no need to whack glass over the front of everything just for the sake of design, especially not on notebooks.

If only I could justify buying one.
 
Thanks for the pics! The non-glossy does look exceptionally good... I think Apple needs to be a little more careful in future, there's no need to whack glass over the front of everything just for the sake of design, especially not on notebooks.

If only I could justify buying one.

Def starting to agree. The more I go and look at the AG at my local store the more I want it. Anybody got an answer to my above question though? : )
 
Also, my glossy screen always magically ends up with finger smudges all over it, but I RARELY touch the screen. Its crazy.

So on the matte, will the screen quality degrade more quickly as the dirt/fingers etc that often touch the screen wont be behind a glass wall but touching the scree directly?

Not at all, if you take good care of it, i.e. clean it with a slightly moistened lint-free cloth whenever necessary. Given you don't drop your MBP over the years, your screen (and MBP) will be fine. Purchase Apple Care on top of your one-year warranty, as they usually replace the screen (and other parts) without hassle.
 
Can you explain why you returned the matte screen for the glossy-mirror screen?
Just very curious..
I had a 2008 mbp before the unibody and I eventually sold it. During the wait for Arrandale I started to fall in love with the C2D form factor and that design alone had me waiting patiently and then the refresh finally came and the patience wore off and I finally went in to pick up my macbook and they only had matte for the i7 27", well I was there and had the money and also the Apple guy gave me a discount and so I felt I was sold on the idea of the matte screen.

I had the Mac for a weekend and kept trying to convince myself that I was ok with the matte screen. Heck the screen looked great, but then everytime I saw a picture of the black border and glossy screen, I started getting pissed at myself for waiting so long for the new Macbook and didn't even get what had drawn me back to a Mac in the first place (I do love the OS first and then the look second). A $2400 pice tag told me I better not have any remorse, so I went back and traded it in. Now I have to wait for the glossy to arrive by May 4th, but I'm ok with that now. Long read huh?
 
Long read but very clear, thank you!
Not to bother you.. but so you aren't evaluating at all the advantages of having a matte screen which does not reflect light and images, right?
And you don't mind if the colors on the glossy screen won't be so crisp and vivid as on your just-returned matte screen, because you do mind the look instead! Right?

I like the silver bezel but I do like shiny black things too. I care a lot about viewing quality (which seems to be better on the matte screen at this point!), so I definitely can't decide!!
 
Long read but very clear, thank you!
Not to bother you.. but so you aren't evaluating at all the advantages of having a matte screen which does not reflect light and images, right?
And you don't mind if the colors on the glossy screen won't be so crisp and vivid as on your just-returned matte screen, because you do mind the look instead! Right?

I like the silver bezel but I do like shiny black things too. I care a lot about viewing quality (which seems to be better on the matte screen at this point!), so I definitely can't decide!!
I took into consideration some of the things you are saying. My MBP will be used almost primarily for work. The lighting in my office does not distract from using a glossy screen. I have no plans on using it outside. The next thing might be a little confusing, but I do work primarily on an external monitor, so I am actually not looking at the MBP screen too much, it simply shows my email.

When I plan on using the screen more it's for movies and games and stuff when I travel. Why not get an iMac? Well it needs to be portable for when I go to a client's office or work away from the office. When I had the matte screen in my posession I felt I was spending too much time trying to convince myself why I needed it more than the glossy screen and I just knew I was going to have buyer's remorse because I should be loving this beauty of a machine. This to me is an individual preference and not a "Glossy is better than Matte" issue.
 
I bought a hi-res anti-glare today. Just couldn't do the glossy for the amount of money I'm spending. I have a glossy netbook and it's horrible to deal with outside or near windows. I also have a glossy plasma in the house and while it looks great, I always have to shut the curtains to watch a movie. My two matte lcd tv's don't this issue nor does my workstation lcd.
I wouldn't mind becoming an optometrist right about now. Not long from now tons of people are going to have eye strain and fatigue and probably need reading glasses from all the glossy panels on the market.
 
Dammit, thats gonna be me! The thing is I only to get the new computer for the matte screen, my current specs suit me. So if I sell, buy the new matte screen, an dont want it afterwards sure I can return it and get a glossy but then I just spent about 400 bucks to upgrade specs that I dont need but still have a gloss screen like when I started.

Hrmph.

Looks aren't the most important thing on a laptop. I like the black bezel more with the black keyboard, but still I choose for the Antiglare.
 
I just got my 15 inch hi res anti glare

Wow.

The screen is fantastic. Like a fine painting. Pictures don't do it justice. Really even much better than I anticipated.


Hi, i had ordered the 15" i7 antiglare, with 7200 rpm HDD, but couldn't wait so i cancelled, going to get the standard 15" i7 antiglare 5400 rpm tomorrow. How is it running? flawless? did i make a mistake to cancel 7200 rpm HDD?? is it that much quicker or the 5400 rpm is excellent enough??

thanx!
 
Hi, i had ordered the 15" i7 antiglare, with 7200 rpm HDD, but couldn't wait so i cancelled, going to get the standard 15" i7 antiglare 5400 rpm tomorrow. How is it running? flawless? did i make a mistake to cancel 7200 rpm HDD?? is it that much quicker or the 5400 rpm is excellent enough??

thanx!
Even still it's the easiest thing to upgrade down the road, outside of memory. I don't think you make a mistake at all. Enjoy.
 
Thanks for the pics! The non-glossy does look exceptionally good... I think Apple needs to be a little more careful in future, there's no need to whack glass over the front of everything just for the sake of design, especially not on notebooks.

If only I could justify buying one.

I thought the glass added structural rigidity to the thin screen/laptop back and thus was about function and design. Wasn't that one of the selling points at launch in October 2008? I can't seem to remember.
 
I thought the glass added structural rigidity to the thin screen/laptop back and thus was about function and design. Wasn't that one of the selling points at launch in October 2008? I can't seem to remember.

I suppose it offeres a bit of protection, but as far as design goes, Im not sure its that good fo a design option to sell people screens that you cant use when around light or outside in the sun ha.
 
OP: Was wondering if you are still using the speck case? I've used a few incase shells and they ended up messing up the alignment of my screen so that it would give a slight creak every time I opened it. Ill probably go for speck next, have you used both?
 
Personally I prefer the black bezel to the silver, like the contrast between the black and the brushed aluminium unibody, the silver bezel just makes it look to samey to me, I wouldn't consider the glossy screen because of that.

Plus I like the glossy screen.
 
SNIP

Matte has the advantage of being "all-terrain", better resistant to fingerprints and look more "professional", however, glossy has better viewing angles, sharper images and look more modern.

SNIP

FMD replied to this:
I have to disagree with you on the "viewing angles" You can view a matte screen from any angle where as the glossy you have to find the right angle to view at due to the disturbance of reflections and glares from light.

SNIP

There are two different factors when one considers the viewing angle of an LCD panel.

Technically, "viewing angle" refers to the angular degree of deviation from "dead center" (i.e. zero degrees X and Y; a line segment from your nose to the screen creates a perpendicular angle with the plane of the screen). Within the good "viewing angle," the screen appears to be the same gamma (brightness/contrast) and color as it appears when viewed from "dead center." The panels with the best viewing angles on the market can be viewed from almost 170 degrees to the side and still appear the same as from the front, in terms of color and brightness. Meanwhile, displays with shallow (read: crappy) viewing angles will undergo shifts in gamma and color when they are tilted. I believe this definition is what Tanegashima meant in the quote above.

Meanwhile, FMD means something entirely different by "viewing angle." He refers to a situationally-dependent probability that, in any given lighting condition, the glare on the screen will restrict some particular viewing angles of the screen. However this is not a property of the LCD panel itself, but rather, this is a property of the glass in front of the LCD.

I think we all know that the glass (read: "glossy") screens have more reflection. OK.

But the question is, is there a difference in the viewing angle of the LCD itself between the "glossy" and the "matte" MacBook Pro? Tanegashima seems to think that the former has a panel with a better viewing angle. Is this really true?

I am currently typing on the 15" matte display, and I can tell you, it is a very beautiful display, but any slight tilt of the display will lead to a shift in gamma. So if you were to use it for photo editing (as I do), then you are going to have problems if you accidentally slouch in your seat without realizing it, and make your picture too bright to compensate for the screen's limited viewing angle causing the image to appear darker than it should.

Now, I don't care about the viewing angle because I know about this problem, and therefore I am not going to accidentally slouch in my seat. Plus I will always use my external screens on my Mac Pro for any serious color matching work. Moreover I'm just happy that the MBP display panel is a high-gamut panel.

But I'm still curious if the glossy displays have a better viewing angle, for the sake of argument. Anybody?
 
If I bought a Hi-Res glossy would it say that its Hi-Res on the box if not, how would I know it's a Hi-Res? Is the Hi-Res glossy worth it?

On the box, the tag will read:

MBP 15.4/2.66/2x2GB/500/SD/HR-GLSY

Some of those numbers will vary depending on your cpu/memory, but that last part designates it as a Hi-Res Glossy build.
 
I might agree that the black border looks a bit more stylish (on picture atleaset) but more importantly i hate the reflection on glossy screen so that is much much more a factor for me then the framing.

Sad thing is no local store will have the AG so no comparison for me :eek:
 
I love these matte screens.. really making me want to upgrade my MBA to a new MBP..
I also prefer the silver bezel.. reminds me of the old powerbooks..
And I also agree with the multiple posts before mine that a silver bezel with a silver keyboard would be killer..

I don't mind my black keyboard on the MBA but it's definitely not perfect.. (plus the MBA bezel is so damn thick, I don't know why they made it this way.. and its edges are also way tooooo rounded!)
 
Was there a significant weight difference between the anti-glare and the glossy? I would assume that piece of glass had some good weight to it. Could you weigh your 15'' anti-glare screen and post it?
 
Was there a significant weight difference between the anti-glare and the glossy? I would assume that piece of glass had some good weight to it. Could you weigh your 15'' anti-glare screen and post it?

Any information?
 
i personally prefer the look of the black border on the glossy display, but the silver bezel of the AG isn't bad either. but after working on my girlfriend's glossy unibody MB my eyes were killing me. so in the end i ordered the AG. now i'm patiently waiting for it to arrive! :)
 
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