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[Merged] HTC / Verizon Droid Incredible

GamecockMac said:
You mean revolutionary like that awesome HTC SenseUI interface? Oh wait...



Looks like the WSJ's reviewer wasn't exactly blown away by what Droidheads would have us believe is the best flavor of their OS. And as for your "real" multi-tasking? Well, the "incredible" battery life of HTC's latest "iPhone killer" speaks for itself.
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Here is the link to the review.
http://goo.gl/veUy

Don't you just love Apple fanboys who take things out of context?

From the same article:
"Indeed, it was the Incredible's zippy efficiency that won my heart. The Incredible served up new emails instantly, whether I was in my apartment or walking among the skyscrapers of midtown Manhattan, places where my iPhone typically would stall for several minutes. Websites loaded at lightning speed, and browsing online felt more like using a computer than a mobile phone.

Verizon's wireless coverage was excellent. I enjoyed a 30-minute conversation with an old friend while relaxing on my couch, which is impossible to do on my iPhone without the interruption of a dropped call.

I also loved the 8-megapixel camera, complete with zoom, flash, and video. It made my iPhone's 2-megapixel, zoomless, flashless camera look weak. In fact, the Incredible's photos were comparable to a digital camera, but my iPhone's pictures only turn out well if they're close-ups and in the daylight."



The reviewer also stated the biggest downside is the poor battery; it's as bad as the iPhone's.

But hey, why argue with a rock?
 
kenypowa said:
Here is the link to the review.
http://goo.gl/veUy

Don't you just love Apple fanboys who take things out of context?

From the same article:
"Indeed, it was the Incredible's zippy efficiency that won my heart. The Incredible served up new emails instantly, whether I was in my apartment or walking among the skyscrapers of midtown Manhattan, places where my iPhone typically would stall for several minutes. Websites loaded at lightning speed, and browsing online felt more like using a computer than a mobile phone.

Verizon's wireless coverage was excellent. I enjoyed a 30-minute conversation with an old friend while relaxing on my couch, which is impossible to do on my iPhone without the interruption of a dropped call.

I also loved the 8-megapixel camera, complete with zoom, flash, and video. It made my iPhone's 2-megapixel, zoomless, flashless camera look weak. In fact, the Incredible's photos were comparable to a digital camera, but my iPhone's pictures only turn out well if they're close-ups and in the daylight."
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And what did you just do there, smart guy?

Don't you just love Android fanboys who are total hypocrites? :rolleyes:
 
GamecockMac said:
And what did you just do there, smart guy?

Don't you just love Android fanboys who are total hypocrites? :rolleyes:
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LOL. You were the one who took a paragraph from the whole article out of context. But hey, if you believe I'm the hypocrite for pointing out your hypocrisy, suit yourself. :D
 
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GamecockMac said:
kenypowa said:
Here is the link to the review.
http://goo.gl/veUy

Don't you just love Apple fanboys who take things out of context?

From the same article:
"Indeed, it was the Incredible's zippy efficiency that won my heart. The Incredible served up new emails instantly, whether I was in my apartment or walking among the skyscrapers of midtown Manhattan, places where my iPhone typically would stall for several minutes. Websites loaded at lightning speed, and browsing online felt more like using a computer than a mobile phone.

Verizon's wireless coverage was excellent. I enjoyed a 30-minute conversation with an old friend while relaxing on my couch, which is impossible to do on my iPhone without the interruption of a dropped call.

I also loved the 8-megapixel camera, complete with zoom, flash, and video. It made my iPhone's 2-megapixel, zoomless, flashless camera look weak. In fact, the Incredible's photos were comparable to a digital camera, but my iPhone's pictures only turn out well if they're close-ups and in the daylight."
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And what did you just do there, smart guy?

Don't you just love Android fanboys who are total hypocrites? :rolleyes:
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Selective quoting negative parts of a review seems a tad agenda driven imo. Why not link to and quote the whole article?

The only real issue he had with the phone in the whole review was the amount of customisation options available (coming from an iPhone it's probably easy to be overwhelmed by more than 3 customisation options...) and the battery life which he says is about the same as his iPhone when using it...... The rest was very positive.

No we're on to hypothetical battery life based on nothing but your speculation for the next iPhone to counter that. You know what? I think the next HTC phone might have infinate battery life, better than the iPhone 4g!

(See how easy speculation on nothing we know about is easy) ;)
 
kenypowa said:
LOL. You were the one who took a paragraph from the whole article out of context. But hey, if you believe I'm the hypocrite for pointing out your hypocrisy, suit yourself.
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I don't believe you're a hypocrite, I know you are one, because you did the exact same thing I did in your reply, taking a part of the article out of context to try to prove a point. So you're trying to say that if I had quoted the entire article in my post and just bolded the section I was pointing out, that would have been fine, and I wouldn't have had to read your whining response? Somehow, I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

ChazUK said:
Selective quoting negative parts of a review seems a tad agenda driven imo. Why not link to and quote the whole article?

The only real issue he had with the phone in the whole review was the amount of customisation options available (coming from an iPhone it's probably easy to be overwhelmed by more than 3 customisation options...) and the battery life which he says is about the same as his iPhone when using it...... The rest was very positive.
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But selective quoting positive parts of a review is fine...as long as you share the same positive opinion, of course. Hypocrisy sure is fun!

And in my original post on this subject, I did link to the original article, so quoting the whole thing in a follow-up post would've been a bit much. But don't bother actually following along with a thread, just jump in blindly and assume you know everything that has come before.

Oh, and it doesn't even appear that you closely read the article in question, or at least you only saw what you wanted to see. She (you didn't even get the reviewer's gender right) had less than glowing things to say about:

1. the Sense UI
2. lack of certain apps
3. less than stellar music capabilities
4. battery life

But other than that, "the rest was very positive"...if you've already had your maximum daily requirement of Android koolaid.
 
Is there even a airvideo type app for the Android OS?

...wait I thought this device was called INCREDIBLE?
 
GamecockMac said:
But selective quoting positive parts of a review is fine...as long as you share the same positive opinion, of course. Hypocrisy sure is fun!

And in my original post on this subject, I did link to the original article, so quoting the whole thing in a follow-up post would've been a bit much. But don't bother actually following along with a thread, just jump in blindly and assume you know everything that has come before.

Oh, and it doesn't even appear that you closely read the article in question, or at least you only saw what you wanted to see. She (you didn't even get the reviewer's gender right) had less than glowing things to say about:

1. the Sense UI
2. lack of certain apps
3. less than stellar music capabilities
4. battery life

But other than that, "the rest was very positive"...if you've already had your maximum daily requirement of Android koolaid.
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AAh. It appears my reading comprehension fails massively at 4AM in the morning. Apologies. I replied based on this post which made me assume that you hadn't posted the original article.

Like I said above. If the customisation options before were limited to rearranging icons, a lock screen wallpaper and changing your ringtone, I suppose you could easily be overwhelmed.

The lack of certain apps can be a pain but until companies develop more apps for Android, it's something Android owners will have to learn to live with. The good thing is that with FroYo due, most content on normal sites will work perfectly leaving a user able to view all content on most news sites. (here are some for the Nexus One)

With regards to the music player ("Incredible's software isn't Mac-compatible, and I couldn't load songs purchased from Apple's iTunes."), I overlooked that inaccuracy as I already know that there are plenty of solutions for iTunes syncing. That is unless she was complaining about DRM laden iTunes music and in that case, she can always pay Apple MORE MONIES to enable her to use it on non Apple labelled products.

And lastly, battery life. It's the same as the current gen iPhone, even tho at this very moment the phone can do more (read: Multitasking). A fully multitasking handset that can compete with a phone that can run 1 3rd party app at a time isn't a negative IMO.

I'll assure you that I'll read further into the thread before replying in future but that is if Safari can run long enough not to crash on my iPod touch. ;)

/Sips on fresh, green Android coloured Kool Aid.
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However, the Incredible's Sense interface, which gives users the seven different customizable screens based on themes like work and travel, felt too busy and not nearly as intuitive as my iPhone.

The graphics were bright and beautiful, but I often found myself overwhelmed by the options for widgets and folders, and didn't necessarily think that so much customization was helpful. - WSJ
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Hmm. Makes one wonder if that reviewer has ever even placed a web page shortcut on her iPhone screen. And what did she think when Apple added a swipe left search option? Not to mention that she's going to be really overwhelmed with all the Home button double-click options and multitasking in 4.0.

The reality is, it only takes a few minutes of playing around with the Sense UI to know how to add, delete or move widgets and shortcuts.

If you wish, you can even remove everything and leave nothing but simple static app icons... just like the iPhone.

Personally, I like that a shortcut can even be straight to a control panel section if you wish. For instance, you can add a shortcut straight to the Bluetooth on/off switch. Pretty cool.

Here's a similar review by another iPhone user, except that he took the extra few minutes:

Droid Incredible by HTC features the newest version of what they call the “HTC Sense experience”, which is a seven-panel home screen GUI with a wide selection of interactive widgets so the most important content is immediately available at a single touch.

After a few minutes of playing around with the OS, I was transformed from confused to comfortable.

The whole interface is organized and evolved from the endless scrolling I do on my iPhone. I especially loved the the amazing animations and transitions in the interface.
- MobileMag
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kenypowa said:
Here is the link to the review.
http://goo.gl/veUy

I also loved the 8-megapixel camera, complete with zoom, flash, and video. It made my iPhone's 2-megapixel, zoomless, flashless camera look weak. In fact, the Incredible's photos were comparable to a digital camera, but my iPhone's pictures only turn out well if they're close-ups and in the daylight."

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The reviewer also stated the biggest downside is the poor battery; it's as bad as the iPhone's.

But hey, why argue with a rock?
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Besides AT&T, and the exclusive contract concept, the camera is my biggest iPhone gripe. I don't know what the chip is capable of, but, the fixed ultra-widescreen optics and fixed high-contrast settings make the phone suboptimal for anything but closeups in uniform lighting. I sure hope Apple talked to some photographers for the design in the new phone. The new HTC/Android phones sound like they are a big improvement, although I have not had a chance to play with one.
 
-PsYcHoNoVa- said:
I thought about switching to a droid or other newer phone. Then I punched myself in the face. I will never own a cell phone other than the iPhone, no matter how much better some of them might be.
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Do you hear yourself? That doesn't even make sense! No matter how much better some of them might be?!?! If it's better than the iphone, why wouldn't you own it?

Du bist ein Fanboi.
 
I've noticed that when people review stuff and do an Android vs Iphone comparison...

The words..zippy and fast are linked with coverage. Never about the Operating system itself but the network.

I'm sorry but don't blame apple because of their crappy ATT alliance. Blame ATT on this one. Never have I said..."stupid iphone...retrieve my mail faster". It's more like..."are you serious? ATT"

Now that I have bought both the android and iphone...i'll probably have a review up soon and the results maybe rather shocking.

Spoiler alert: Iphone users need to come down from cloud 9. Android users...get over yourself, it's not as perfect as you think it is. Both OS have some serious bugs. Have sex and make Idroid.

P.S.

WTF is up with all those naked girl apps in the multimedia section of android. Seriously?
 
Well, that was painless.....

After testing the EVO for a day it's perfectly clear that my next phone will be an iPhone.

Love the phone but I have zero reception in my house. My tether speed goes from 2800 Kbps on the iPhone to 120 Kbps on the EVO..... I wouldn't call that 4G :D
 
iPhone 4 vs. Droid Incredible

After having an iPhone the last few years I've been contemplating a switch to the Incredible, mainly for the fact that I'm beyond sick and tired of the AT&T network. So I've done a comparison that I thought I'd share.

Interface/apps: Despite the fact that Apple has many more apps available for purchase, the reality is that I only use a core stable of 10-12 apps on a regular basis and every one is available for the Droid Incredible.

Music: the key reason why I have an iPhone in the first place...it seems like it would be a pain, but it's now just as easy to get my music onto the Droid. Still like the iPod interface better but lack of real music capability on a device other than the iPhone seems to be less of an issue with the Droid.

OS: Having seen the latest version of Android I believe it's a legitimate competitor to the iPhone OS. In some ways, I like the Android a bit better as it just seems more "open", meaning there are more possibilities for it.

Network: Verizon vs. AT&T doesn't even warrant a discussion.

International: I'm no globe-trotter but I probably spend a month all-in overseas. The lack of international capability for the Droid, particularly in Europe is a huge stumbling block. According to Verizon, it works in many Asian and South American markets, but almost in no European markets. Big knock on the Droid.

Price: On the face of it, the Droid has Apple beat. If I upgrade to the latest iPhone 4 32GB, it would cost me $299. That gets to be a steep price if one chooses to upgrade annually, as I inevitably do. The Droid Incredible at $199 seems like a great deal. BUT - to get the full 32GB capability for the Droid, you need a micro SD card, which I just found out cost a whopping $199 from Sandisk. So on an apples-to-apples basis, you're looking at an all-in cost of $398, or about $100 higher than the iPhone 4 if you get the subsidized price. The network plans are comparable.

Verdict: As much as I cannot stand AT&T anymore the iPhone competitors are not quite there yet, so I'm either going to just stick with my 3GS or maybe upgrade to iPhone 4. No Droid for me now.

HOWEVER, I think Apple's business model has to change going forward. Lord Steve has been able to descend from Castle Cupertino 1-2x a year to pepper his minions with modest incremental improvements in his devices over the years, which the minions have eaten up by cheering enthusiastically and then running out to buy the latest product. I've been guilty of this. But this is changing, in my opinion.

First, AT&T's network is becoming more and more of an issue. Not only is call reliability horrible, but now they are taking steps to reign in data usage.

Secondly, having an iPad along with an iPhone almost seems redundant. It's all the same, just a different size and form factor.

Third - and most importantly - there are real options out there now in the form of Android-based devices. I'm not getting into the Android vs. Apple debate but it's clear that Apple's phone OS is no longer unique. The Android is very functional and good and there are a lot of apps for it. What this means is that I don't think Apple can continue with baiting Apple consumers with small nuggets of incremental functionality and expect people to just dutifully pay up for the privilege. They are going to have to step up more aggressively on the hardware and software functionality front going forward or else they will lose the lead.
 
One of the big drawbacks to Verizon/Sprint for me is the lack of ability to do voice and data at the same time.
 
You're acting as if Apple didn't push the hardware on the new iPhone, which they did. You're acting as if OS4 isn't a big upgrade, which it is, even though some features are missing. I have a Google Nexus One, read the link in my sig.
 
I freaking hate iTunes. It's such a pain in the ass. Incredibly unintuitive and complicated for uploading music and videos onto the phone.

Why can't we just drag and drop?

It's also slow and buggy as hell on Windows 7.
 
Badandy said:
You're acting as if Apple didn't push the hardware on the new iPhone, which they did. You're acting as if OS4 isn't a big upgrade, which it is, even though some features are missing. I have a Google Nexus One, read the link in my sig.
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Good to know. I've only test-driven Android in Verizon stores so don't have the practical experience. Fortunately there are other issues (namely the lack of int'l use for the Droid) that are big enough to have kept me from making a hasty mistake in making the switch, only to regret it. I realize OS4 is an upgrade but doesn't it feel like Apple does these things kicking and screaming?
 
I'm switching back to iPhone 4 from my nexus one. Reasons: syncing (and speed of NAND vs. SD), keyboard, battery life, touchscreen issues (randomly decides to offset my press to bottom of screen, for example).
 
Sincerely, thank you for the post. I've been looking at other carriers and smart phones and reading a lot fine print. My 3GS has become invaluable to me and my job switching to another phone would be hellish. Until your post I hadn't even considered international calling plans, which I do need. Off to do more investigating.
 
wikoogle said:
I freaking hate iTunes. It's such a pain in the ass. Incredibly unintuitive and complicated for uploading music and videos onto the phone.

Why can't we just drag and drop?

It's also slow and buggy as hell on Windows 7.
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I also have win 7, and honestly iTunes is the ugliest program on my PC. Minimizing it is also just ugly. I dont know who is at fault but iTunes is the only program that does that for me.

I also agree. Syncs take forever, and i always seem to remember i need to sync over new music right when im about to leave out the door. Then i gotta wait for 10/15 minutes.

I do like iTunes organization though...
 
ChiliBlue said:
Wait, what?? I was at Sprint yesterday and was told the EVO is capable of that.
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The EVO can if you're on a 4G network only (or on wifi obviously).

Verizon doesn't have this capability yet but I haven't missed it since I left AT&T.
 
ChiliBlue said:
Wait, what?? I was at Sprint yesterday and was told the EVO is capable of that.
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Only if you are on 4G.

If you are on 3G, i believe it still works if you run pandora. I tried it many times.

This is a such a hard decision. I'm holding the EVO 4G in my hand and yet I hear everyone say...the new iphone 4 screen is godly.

Also,
taking video and photos on EVO 4G SUCK
 
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