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Well, I can see now where the major complaints are going to come from...the screen. It may look beautiful, but it can crack easily. If Apple is coming out with a case, then that should tell people A LOT, that the new iPhone will need a case. I'm usually against screen protectors, but I think I may have to get one of those and a case. I guess something had to be cheap about the new iPhone. Lol.
I think you will find that the new iPhone 4 Bumpers are not from Apple.

Apple does not make any case or Bumpers for the iPad. So all case / bumpers will be from third-party suppliers.

Dave
 
1) This is from Gizmodo who are currently running a serious anti-apple campaign as evidenced by their 'Apple looses 115k user details' story yesterday when the truth was it was an AT&T cock-up. Not saying that makes this story invalid but it does cast doubt.

2) NO current smartphone will always survive a drop onto the screen if it hits at the wrong angle and with sufficient force. Note that the iPhone survived the first two attempts just fine.

3) The 'test' was done by a company specalising in iPhone repair. No conflict of interest there then...

4) Apple NEVER said the new glass would 'never break'. Anyone thinking that is an idiot quite frankly. There may be something in the claim that not having the raised lip so the glass is always going to hit the ground without any additional shock protection but I'd like to see that verified by a neutral third party.

Basically anyone shocked by this has severely unrealistic expectaitons in my opinion. It's glass, glass will break if mistreated, this is not a problem that only affects the iPhone but will be present in ALL smartphones if you get unlucky. Move on folks, nothing to see here.
 
I thought it only shattered when it landed face down, in which case a "bumper" may not do any good?

Edit: From the iFixyouri article, "Land it flat on the ground, and it will smash."

Bumper sticks out from the face and back, so it will protect against flat falls.

1) This is from Gizmodo who are currently running a serious anti-apple campaign as evidenced by their 'Apple looses 115k user details' story yesterday when the truth was it was an AT&T cock-up. Not saying that makes this story invalid but it does cast doubt.

Look closer, Gizmodo is not the original source. They are just reporting the story from another website, as usual.

And they are not anti-Apple. A couple of negative stories does not outweigh the mostly positive they run on Apple products.

Basically anyone shocked by this has severely unrealistic expectaitons in my opinion. It's glass, glass will break if mistreated, this is not a problem that only affects the iPhone but will be present in ALL smartphones if you get unlucky. Move on folks, nothing to see here.

Agreed, but you have to at least put Apples claims to the test. That slow bending they showed made it appear unbreakable. If they show that, they should also have shown a flat fall. But it was pure marketing hype.
 
More FUD propaganda... ANYTHING will break if you try hard enough and long enough... I can break a diamond too, is the world going to end? A few options here:

1. Don't buy the new phone
2. Don't drop the new phone
3. Use a case
4. Get insurance incase you drop the phone and the glass breaks.

People are so concerned with things like this that are meaningless in the big picture.
 
for the last time apple didn't make any claims about how strong it is. hardness is a property that affects scratch-resistance, NOT strength. two different properties of materials.
 
Such rubbish. They claim it's 'a real phone' yet it's missing the inside components? Oh please, spare me the bull-ish.
 
Looks like it has 3 fractures to me. 2 on the edge and one just in from the edge as though its been hit by something.

EDIT: Make that only 2. I didnt see the other image. One on the edge and one just in from the edge. It hasnt just been dropped.
 
Such rubbish. They claim it's 'a real phone' yet it's missing the inside components? Oh please, spare me the bull-ish.

How are the components inside going to change the results? Magic glass fixing chip we don't know about?

Apple marketing decided to use that bending glass pic. It's only fair game that others show real life.
 
I guess you missed the "making of" video of the iPhone 4 on Apple's site, in which they show the glass bending during destructive testing in the lab.

You're right, I missed that. However if you notice it's being bent in a way with rounded edged devices and not a sharp single point. Internal components will strengthen the display.
 
Because the whole device is less rigid which leads to more pressure being exerted on the glass causing it to break much easier.

I'll bet my paycheck that it still breaks. Rigidity is not the issue, it's the shock going through the glass. That won't change. In fact, being more rigid as well as weighing more might increase it.

Why does this need another thread??? the iFixyouri guy posted this in a thread here with the gory details...https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/932350/


Also I find it strange that the phone looks to have three points of impact on it where the glass has shattered.

Report the dupe thread and get it merged.
 
Gizmodo is really a douche about this...probably because they were banned from WWDC this year. Apple never states iPhone 4 is shattered proof. If you drop something it will break. Get with it.
 
Look closer, Gizmodo is not the original source. They are just reporting the story from another website, as usual.

And they are not anti-Apple. A couple of negative stories does not outweigh the mostly positive they run on Apple products.

Look closer, I never said Gizmodo was the original source and in fact refered to the people who did the tests being a company specalising in fixing iPhones (and other iDevices). What they HAVE done is editorialised to a stupid degree based on very weak evidence.

As for Giz being anti-apple, sorry but at the moment they're definately putting a negative spin on their stories. Hell, just read the full article for this very story:

I was under the impression that the new iPhone 4 contained miraculous military materials that would make it almost unbreakable. It seems I was mistaken.

Bollocks. If you're under that impression you're an idiot (and Jesus managed to post that nonsense under a screenshot of Apple's info on the glass that clearly states they're talking about durability, not shatter-proofing).

The use of this material on both sides will greatly increase the possibilities of breaking your iPhone on any given drop. I can imagine a lot more people coming back to the Apple Store with shattered iPhones, asking for it to be replaced only to received a "well, you should have used a case, because Applecare doesn't cover this kind of accidents"—which is exactly the answer that I received twice at the Genius Bar.

Which is exactly the answer you SHOULD receive and the answer that you'd get from each and every phone manufacturer and carrier if you came in with a phone in this condition. Note also the statement of fact that glass on both sides 'greatly' increases the chance of breaking it with no evidence.

So next time, Apple should probably concentrate in making something beautiful and truly durable beyond a marketing blurb about military helicopters, without having to use horrible bumper cases.

This too is bollocks, there's no such thing as TRULY durable in consumer electronics, certainly not in smartphones. Drops onto hard surfaces can and will break things, harsh fact of life. Oh, and this is also tagged as a rant on their site so yeah, negative spin based on a single un-verified test on a device that isn't even the final product where the writer has taken this information as solid fact.

Oh, and the article they featured yesterday: http://gawker.com/5559346/apples-worst-security-breach-114000-ipad-owners-exposed

Note the title, APPLE'S worst security breach.... total and complete ******** and they damn well knew it. Even the article itself makes it clear it's AT&T that had the problem yet not even a mention of them in the all important heading and in fact AT&T don't even appear until the third paragraph of the article.

Gizmodo has really dropped in quality recently and they're definately putting a negative spin on Apple news if they get the chance. These aren't the only examples by a long way.
 
Look closer, I never said Gizmodo was the original source and in fact refered to the people who did the tests being a company specalising in fixing iPhones (and other iDevices).

No, but you implied that the fact that Gizmodo published it somehow meant it wasn't genuine.

And if I'm wrong, why did you bother to state that it was from Gizmodo and that they are anti-Apple. I see this as having no bearing on the truth. That being that Apple touted this glass as being super strong and even showing a picture of the glass bending....but even this glass breaks.

Any negative backlash they get on that is deserved because their marketing implied that the glass wasn't going to break (even though common sense says otherwise....this is not the point.)

Look, I like the iPhone 4, I'm going to get one. But don't be such a fanboy that you buy off on all of the marketing BS. Apple tried to tell the people that this glass was some sort of super material. They chose that marketing angle. But it's just that....marketing.
 
How are the components inside going to change the results? Magic glass fixing chip we don't know about?

Apple marketing decided to use that bending glass pic. It's only fair game that others show real life.

The inside components would act as 'shock absorbers' if you will. Here, when the shock passes through the phone it would make sense that the screen would take the full force of it.

I've dropped my own iPhone and seen many iPhones dropped, and none have look as bad as this, especially from 3.5ft. There haven't even been many reported incidents of iPad screens being obliterated after a 3ft drop like this, and both those devices where using supposedly lesser technology.

I don't buy that Apple's glass is going to be some sort of indestructible breakthrough in glass engineering, but I also don't for a second believe this is accurate.
 
At least it's not easily scratched.
Where is my sand test D:

I just want my screen to be scratch and dust proof.
 
I have stopped reading Gizmodo. They weren't invited to WWDC, and now they have a bee in their bonnet. Get. Over. It. I can guarantee you they will all be carrying iPhone 4s when they come out.
 
The inside components would act as 'shock absorbers' if you will. Here, when the shock passes through the phone it would make sense that the screen would take the full force of it.

I've dropped my own iPhone and seen many iPhones dropped, and none have look as bad as this, especially from 3.5ft. There haven't even been many reported incidents of iPad screens being obliterated after a 3ft drop like this, and both those devices where using supposedly lesser technology.

I don't buy that Apple's glass is going to be some sort of indestructible breakthrough in glass engineering, but I also don't for a second believe this is accurate.

You just said it was going to be more rigid, now you say it will absorb shock? Which is it? You can't have both.

Edit: sorry, another poster said more rigid. Either way...which is it? Shock absorbers or more rigid? Either way I say it makes no difference. Glass receives enough of a shock, it's gonna break.
 
@OtterBox just posted on their Twitter that they will have the Impact, Commuter, and Defender cases for the new iPhone.

That was in reply to other surfacing images of the iPhone 4 with the cracked screen found on GIZMODO. I'll be waiting to pick up an OtterBox product for sure.

Go Otterbox or go home.
 
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