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[MERGED] Those that moved from Plus to SE

maxsix said:
Being a hard core smartphone enthusiast that's fortunate not to be limited by budget, I have all current model iPhones. Each has its distinctive advantages. I can thoroughly understand the lure of a tiny iPhone like the SE if a larger display isn't needed.

No one knows better than you, just what's most important. I'd say migrating to an SE may indeed be a very smart choice.
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Thanks maxsix.

Most people I know are not that into the smartphones or gadgets, so I end up asking other people the forums who maybe has a better understanding or is similar to me :)

If I have a few extra cash laying around next payday maybe I will buy the SE and see how it goes. I always have the 14days return policy :D
 
ElysiumY2K said:
If you have, what were the reasons?

Because I'm tempted to sell off my 6S Plus off eBay etc and buy a SE out right.

After owning a 6S Plus for about 6 months, I think the novelty of the large screen has worn off for me. As much as I love it, I notice I use my phone way too much and the size of it is starting to annoy me lol (hard to put into work trousers or jeans).

I also have a deal with O2 (UK provider), after 1 year I can trade in my old phone and upgrade. I'm 6 months in already and no doubt the iPhone 7 is coming out this year.

Only the O2 deal is holding me back :(
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Have you seen this thread? It's discussing the same thing:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/those-that-moved-from-plus-to-se.1965088/
This one is as well:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/those-who-have-moved-from-a-plus-to-an-se.1965219/
 
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HickDead said:
"Downgrade" is a mater of opinion. I upgraded from the 6S to the SE because I feel the latter is a superior phone for MY needs.
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This. I keep seeing people say that going from a 6s (or even a 6) to the SE is a downgrade but no it's not.
These devices have different form factor you can't compare them just like you would normally do by looking at specifications. For example, going from an iPhone 5 to an iPhone SE is obviously an upgrade but going from an iPad Pro 12.9" to an iPad mini 4 is not a downgrade, again, different form factor for different needs.
 
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HickDead said:
"Downgrade" is a mater of opinion. I upgraded from the 6S to the SE because I feel the latter is a superior phone for MY needs.
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iOSUser7 said:
This. I keep seeing people say that going from a 6s (or even a 6) to the SE is a downgrade but no it's not.
These devices have different form factor you can't compare them just like you would normally do by looking at specifications. For example, going from an iPhone 5 to an iPhone SE is obviously an upgrade but going from an iPad Pro 12.9" to an iPad mini 4 is not a downgrade, again, different form factor for different needs.
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You guys can't get over the fact it's a downgrade, and want to convince yourselfs that it isn't. Its a good phone, but a downgrade from a more feature rich model. ;)
 
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It's a downgrade because it is a step down in terms of hardware. It may be a more appropriate device for your needs but lets call it what it is. A downgrade in hardware but an improvement when looked at from your personal usage scenario.
 
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I was in the same boat you were. I prefer fitted clothing, and that 100% makes the plus unwieldy and uncomfortable to carry.

It's a great device - don't get me wrong. But it's huge, and for many that's a problem.

I decided to give the SE a shot to see if it would work for me. And it absolutely does. I've been able to do everything on it that I used the 6s Plus for, and some things actually work better. Phone calls are better, as I'm not holding a tablet to my head. Texting is easier, as I'm not stretching or straining my thumbs. Apple Pay is easier, as the device is smaller and more maneuverable. I've also seen better photo results. The smaller phone is easier to get a good shot with, as you're not fighting the size and weight.

The screen isn't as nice, but it's still excellent. Battery life is stellar (and when you do have to charge, it takes under an hour). Performance feels very fast, even compared to the 6s Plus. They're similar spec-wise, but whether it's the feel or actual performance, the SE seems faster.

Personally, I recommend making the move. It's a great phone, comfortable to use, and the design is one of Apple's best (in my opinion). But from somewhere with a decent return policy - that way if you decide it doesn't fit your needs you can return it.
 
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rijc99 said:
It's a downgrade because it is a step down in terms of hardware. It may be a more appropriate device for your needs but lets call it what it is. A downgrade in hardware but an improvement when looked at from your personal usage scenario.
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That's what I was trying to say. It's not just a 'downgrade' because again it's not so easy to compare two different form factors. For example, to me, the iPhone 6 Plus is a downgrade in comparison to the iPhone 5s because I lose all the ease of use of the 4" device. Of course some others might disagree with me. What I am saying is that it's a downgrade in technical specifications, you can't just call it a 'downgrade' because it's totally subjective and depend on the person's needs.
 
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iOSUser7 said:
That's what I was trying to say. It's not just a 'downgrade' because again it's not so easy to compare two different form factors. For example, to me, the iPhone 6 Plus is a downgrade in comparison to the iPhone 5s because I lose all the ease of use of the 4" device. Of course some others might disagree with me. What I am saying is that it's a downgrade in technical specifications, you can't just call it a 'downgrade' because it's totally subjective and depend on the person's needs.
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Sorry, I respectfully disagree with you on your premise about the subjective portion. The phone itself is a downgrade. Whether or not it is more suited to the individual person, in my mind, isn't a matter of upgrade or downgrade.

I see the device itself as the only measure of whether the swap was an upgrade or not. In my mind the subjective portion is something else altogether.

i.e. If you traded a 7 series in for a 3... You would have a hard time convincing me it was an upgrade no matter how you justify its easier to park.

But I do see your point of view.
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Ladybug said:
Upgrade, downgrade doesn't matter. Its the phone I wanted and thats worth more to me than what someone on these forums think.
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This is the point except some people can't stand the idea the SE is a lower hardware when compared to the flagship.
 
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rijc99 said:
Sorry, I respectfully disagree with you on your premise about the subjective portion. The phone itself is a downgrade. Whether or not it is more suited to the individual person, in my mind, isn't a matter of upgrade or downgrade.

I see the device itself as the only measure of whether the swap was an upgrade or not. In my mind the subjective portion is something else altogether.

i.e. If you traded a 7 series in for a 3... You would have a hard time convincing me it was an upgrade no matter how you justify its easier to park.

But I do see your point of view.
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If you're speaking purely about specs, then it's a "downgrade" ... but this phone has the same A9 chip, front-facing camera, and various other hardware components merged together in a smaller form factor. Specs-wise it is a downgrade. Performance-wise it's at the level of the two bigger phones and has even slightly beaten them in benchmarks due to several factors (smaller screen, less resolution, etc.). It is an upgrade for anyone that wanted this phone for usability due to its size. So in the grand scheme of things, an upgrade is completely dependent upon how the person feels about the purchase. Whether you agree with them or not is irrelevant. If you traded your 7 in for a 3 ... and you found that 3 to be everything you wanted out of a phone and it makes you happy ... then by your standards it was an upgrade to you. People getting upset over the use of the word upgrade is what's ridiculous here.
 
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It so silly that people are downgrading from the regular/plus to the SE so they can have the newest phone on the block. I went from a 5s to a 6s plus and don't think I can go back to a smaller screen.
 
garycoleman2 said:
It so silly that people are downgrading from the regular/plus to the SE so they can have the newest phone on the block. I went from a 5s to a 6s plus and don't think I can go back to a smaller screen.
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It's because they like the smaller size, not because it's the newest phone. Really a hard concept to grasp for some apparently.
 
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I just got my SE ahead of my Paris weekend. I love that the SE can be kept in my front pocket while walking busy streets. For me the 6plus never replaced the iPad anyway and I mostly got it for the better battery life. I have now spent two days of taking pictures, navigating etc with the SE and ehen plugging it in to the charger at night I usually had 30% left. More or less similar to plus and much better than 5S or 6.
 
So, lets see. Its an upgrade going from a 6s or 6s+ to an SE according to some. There for it must be a downgrade if I go from an SE to an 6s or 6s+ :confused:
 
Well I have the 6S Plus and compared to the SE, the 6S Plus is definitely much better in specs. So surely it will be a downgrade for people who want to go from a 6S Plus to a SE?

Nothing wrong with that to be honest. I myself like to go back to a smaller screen, that is the only reason. I won't mis force touch or the big screen.
 
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I miss the days when miniaturization was the premium path. Still find it strange that larger devices are considered premium. Sure, more real estate allows for more features, but for a mobile phone I find it's the fight for the sweet spot of maximum specs at minimum size. The SE nails that for some. The 6S+ nails it for people who don't also want an iPad. The reality is that choice is best. We've got that now.
 
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The portable/mobile devices that we had several years ago didn't have the same capabilities as what we have today. It made sense to go smaller because there was only so much you could do with/on the device. Lugging some unwieldy device around that didn't do very much made little sense. Making it easier to carry balanced things out and made it make more sense.

Now that modern devices can do so much, it has reversed the trends. People increasingly want to take full advantage of mobile device capabilities, which often times means that they want more real estate with the screen.

I can understand both sides, per se. In a way, it seems a little odd to spend so much money on a smartphone, if all you're going to do is text and make calls. That's scratching the absolute surface of its capabilities. It also makes sense that some people see a bigger device as not being worth the trade off. What seems pretty clear is that the majority of people are trending towards wanting the larger screens.
 
PaladinGuy said:
In a way, it seems a little odd to spend so much money on a smartphone, if all you're going to do is text and make calls.
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I don't think anyone would say that the SE is so small compared to the larger devices that all you can do is text and make calls. That's dopey. Certainly web browsing is still very feasible, though less useful on certain sites on the the smaller screen. Apps are designed for doing things on a small screen quickly and easily. Uber, Evernote, calendars, social media, plane tickets, headlines, IoT control (like Nest, etc), music.... all perfectly controllable and useful on a 4" screen. Particularly in the context of running an ecosystem that potentially includes a laptop and an iPad.

Again... the beauty is that different users can construct a different combination of devices to work best for their own telecommunications ecosystem. For some of us, we want a premium smartphone, but we want it to remain as small as is reasonable to fill the role of that device. For others a 4" screen is ludicrous.
 
catean said:
A 3 series with a 6 litre V8 engine is an upgrade over a 7 seriers with the same engine :) .
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Nope. Sorry. It's not. The 7 will still be the flag ship. Not saying the 3 wouldn't be fun but it will never be viewed as the flagship. The flagship is the one thing that is the most fully loaded of the brand. In this case, the 7. Or the 6S Plus in apple's case.
 
rijc99 said:
Nope. Sorry. It's not. The 7 will still be the flag ship. Not saying the 3 wouldn't be fun but it will never be viewed as the flagship. The flagship is the one thing that is the most fully loaded of the brand. In this case, the 7. Or the 6S Plus in apple's case.
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I'd rather have a M3 over a 740i any day.
 
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rijc99 said:
Good. But that still doesn't make it the flagship.
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Well yeah but that's kind of the point right? The 7 series is technically the "flagship" of the BMW lineup, however not all BMW buyers would be interested even given an unlimited budget.

Someone wanting an SUV will want an X5. Someone that wants a high performance car will look to the M3/M4 (let's not even get into the M2 here). Depending on options and engines, the 7 series, X5 and M3 can all be had for similar prices.

Would the guy in the M3 look jealously at someone driving a 7 series? Maybe, but probably not, plus he could choose to look at the 7 series in his rear-view mirror.
 
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