iPod touch [Merged] What to expect from third generation of iPod touch?

[P140897]

it's funny to listen to what peeps want.

personally i dont listen to music (other than radio apps), watch video or look at photos. I use mine purely for fun - apps and internet. my only want is go-anywhere internet, even if it's made available via a dongle. i wouldn't mind paying a few bucks every month for that service at all

IT'S NOT A PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd rather see a microphone and an even thinner device

 

[Jeffrosproto]

I will be at the apple store the minute after it's available if it has GPS.

 

[P140897]

I wish this

GPS working without wifi or any other internet
Built-in mic
Camera

Macbook Aluminum 2.0gHz Ipod Touch 1G 8gb

 

[Chundles]

I understand why the ipod touch can't access edge or 3g, but what do the garmin's and other such gps's use that an ipod touch can't? I love my maps and directions on my ipod, but once i leave my house, i leave my wifi, and i can't change anything.. why can't the next ipod touch use the same network that those devices do?

Those GPS devices have the maps pre-loaded. They're not downloading any information.

Prior to 3.0 Apple have not allowed any turn-by-turn development (except for one which somehow got through) but they soon will. Only caveat is that the developer needs to provide the maps so these apps will be considerably larger (many hundreds of megabytes) than the apps doing the rounds lately.

It'll be freaking sweet though. If they put a GPS receiver in the iPod touch we can use it on Google Maps when connected to a WiFi network to get better location based stuff and use the turn-by-turn apps with the maps pre-installed when away from a network.

Totally wicked rad cool I say.

 

[Liam8]

Microphone

Im sure someone will agree the iPod touch needs a microphone and better external speakers. My next wish is GPS that doesn't need an Internet/wifi connection. I don't really care if it has a camera or not but geotaggi g is handy with iPhoto '09. That could be a hint!

 

[sjleworthy]

IT'S NOT A PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no **** Sherlock! where did i say it was a phone???

besides, whats that got to do with it? i want mobile internet, not a phone. the 2 can be used and treated as 2 separate entities. they dont need to go hand in hand.
before you start condescending me with a loud voice i suggest you look up your facts young man.

 

[puffnstuff]

I think it's funny how if some says they wish the touch had a camera,gps,mic,etc people shout its not a phone.

I believe all the things that people are asking for will come buy as a 3rd party accessory. Apple has never been known to load their devices with features.

 

[P140897]

Shake to shuffle might be nice.


Shake to shuffle already confirmed with the Iphone OS 3.0

 

[4DThinker]

Shake is also used to undo a cut/copy markup in 3.0. Nice use of it IMO.

 

[Andrew K.]

no **** Sherlock! where did i say it was a phone???

besides, whats that got to do with it? i want mobile internet, not a phone. the 2 can be used and treated as 2 separate entities. they dont need to go hand in hand.
before you start condescending me with a loud voice i suggest you look up your facts young man.

Okay what device do you know of that is just a PDA type with a monthly internet service? And where would that service come from? Seriously all you are missing is the phone feature, Apple would never do this, they want you to buy an iPhone and an iPod separately. I think putting a camera is dumb, and you all are gonna be disappointed with some of the stuff you're asking for.

Think about it, Yes the Touch has become more a PDA like device, only because of it's software capabilities and the vast variety of what the touchscreen can do.

Now think about the Hardware: Volume buttons, Small Speakers, Headphone Jack, Bluetooth (for stereos and future headphones)... All music function related... now throw in a camera and the back looks like an iPhone, Apple doesn't want you to confuse an iPod with an iPhone.

As for GPS, I wasn't on board for this one, but it may be feasible depending on how they could fit it in there given how much the storage would go up, you notice for the Touch that the higher storage and the lowest storage are the same thickness so they have to go by the rule that GPS would have to fit with say 64GB of storage the same way it would fit with 8gb. But again, GPS shies away from the music aspect of what an iPod, so if they leave it out to keep the cost down I wouldn't mind.

I just won't keep my hopes up for stuff like that because, I've read these threads that come up with alot of things I think may or may not be in the next touch and some people start to believe it too much without any factual evidence of the coming features, then when Apple announces it without those highly talked about features you guys have discussed here, Some people get very upset. But like I said I keep my reservations about the next touch and hopefully be surprised more than I expect

Anyway I can't wait til September to replace my 5th gen iPod video 30GB with the new Touch!

 

[sjleworthy]

Okay what device do you know of that is just a PDA type with a monthly internet service? And where would that service come from?

one example is the Pocket Surfer. a fantastic little device, with a relatively cheap internet cost. There are a fair few others too. There's also a host of mobile internet dongles that could be adapted, where you pay a monthly charge with. It's certainly not against all realms.

 

[Beric]

Those GPS devices have the maps pre-loaded. They're not downloading any information.

Prior to 3.0 Apple have not allowed any turn-by-turn development (except for one which somehow got through) but they soon will. Only caveat is that the developer needs to provide the maps so these apps will be considerably larger (many hundreds of megabytes) than the apps doing the rounds lately.

It'll be freaking sweet though. If they put a GPS receiver in the iPod touch we can use it on Google Maps when connected to a WiFi network to get better location based stuff and use the turn-by-turn apps with the maps pre-installed when away from a network.

Totally wicked rad cool I say.

Yup. I completely agree with this sentiment. GPS would be so useful and so cool. And pre-loaded maps with additional optional WiFi features would be great.

Apple has got to add something significant to the next iPod touch, and GPS would be the most feasible, IMO.

 

[Andrew K.]

one example is the Pocket Surfer. a fantastic little device, with a relatively cheap internet cost. There are a fair few others too. There's also a host of mobile internet dongles that could be adapted, where you pay a monthly charge with. It's certainly not against all realms.

That's pretty cool really, and though you right in saying it's not against all realms, I think for Apple's sake of being able to sell the Touch and the iPhone and not alienate one over the other goes against that theory. If the Touch came with wireless internet for a monthly fee, many people, including me, would get rid of their iPhone and not care to buy a new one. This sets themselves up for iPhones to sell below expectations since the Touch would be that much closer to it's features. So, although possible, for Apple's sake of successfully selling the iPhone and the Touch, they have to set some boundaries in features to differentiate the 2 platforms of Phone and Mp3 device.

 

[AdeFowler]

Those GPS devices have the maps pre-loaded. They're not downloading any information.

Prior to 3.0 Apple have not allowed any turn-by-turn development (except for one which somehow got through) but they soon will. Only caveat is that the developer needs to provide the maps so these apps will be considerably larger (many hundreds of megabytes) than the apps doing the rounds lately.

It'll be freaking sweet though. If they put a GPS receiver in the iPod touch we can use it on Google Maps when connected to a WiFi network to get better location based stuff and use the turn-by-turn apps with the maps pre-installed when away from a network.

Totally wicked rad cool I say.

Except under the new app model the developer could sell you the GPS app, with the ability to purchase just the maps that you need, when you need them.

The App Store is becoming a huge business for Apple and I wonder if some iPhone features will appear on the Touch, to increase App sales. I'm thinking specifically a microphone, but maybe GPS. A camera is less likely but could happen.

 

[sjleworthy]

That's pretty cool really, and though you right in saying it's not against all realms, I think for Apple's sake of being able to sell the Touch and the iPhone and not alienate one over the other goes against that theory. If the Touch came with wireless internet for a monthly fee, many people, including me, would get rid of their iPhone and not care to buy a new one. This sets themselves up for iPhones to sell below expectations since the Touch would be that much closer to it's features. So, although possible, for Apple's sake of successfully selling the iPhone and the Touch, they have to set some boundaries in features to differentiate the 2 platforms of Phone and Mp3 device.

perhaps they'll incorporate an all in one feature on the new netbooks/tablets that'll no doubt be out soon

you're certainly right about not letting the Touch encroach into iphone territory though, i agree on that point.
So my way of thinking is why not at least give the option for Touch users? as in make the new Touch hardware at least compatible to add-ons and plug-ins which will enable more third party hardware gigs - like dongle or mobile internet, speakers/mics, remotes, game control pads etc etc. Keep the Touch on it's own path from the iphone, but give third part hardware a chance, we as the end user at least have the option then if we wish to pay for it.

i wouldn't want all this built in as the sleek sexiness of the device, which is what initially attracted me to it, would slowly diminish. (look at the iphone, in profile it looks fugly to me) and, as you say, would probably start to piss off a load of loyal Apple/ipod supporters and Apple themselves, but opening up the Touch's hardware/dock port to 3rd party devices would be a real exciting option i think

 

[P140897]

ipod into iphone's track

There might be a chance that the touch could go into iphone track because also the new iphone is coming out in june

 

[Beric]

There might be a chance that the touch could go into iphone track because also the new iphone is coming out in june

Well, that's never happened before. See no reason it should happen now.

We could see a 64GB Touch, and then the next version, as normal, in September. Not too likely, but possible.

 

[Andrew K.]

perhaps they'll incorporate an all in one feature on the new netbooks/tablets that'll no doubt be out soon

you're certainly right about not letting the Touch encroach into iphone territory though, i agree on that point.
So my way of thinking is why not at least give the option for Touch users? as in make the new Touch hardware at least compatible to add-ons and plug-ins which will enable more third party hardware gigs - like dongle or mobile internet, speakers/mics, remotes, game control pads etc etc. Keep the Touch on it's own path from the iphone, but give third part hardware a chance, we as the end user at least have the option then if we wish to pay for it.

i wouldn't want all this built in as the sleek sexiness of the device, which is what initially attracted me to it, would slowly diminish. (look at the iphone, in profile it looks fugly to me) and, as you say, would probably start to piss off a load of loyal Apple/ipod supporters and Apple themselves, but opening up the Touch's hardware/dock port to 3rd party devices would be a real exciting option i think

I could go with that, they have 3rd party Apps... Why not 3rd Party Hardware Support?!

 

[wingnut99]

hoping for at least 64gb in the new release. gps would be awesome, but ive already got that any internet needy apps on my blkberry.

is anyone sure about the september release date? i lost my classic and dont want to buy another one if the new touch has enough memory, but also dont want to wait 6 months!

 

[P140897]

hoping for at least 64gb in the new release. gps would be awesome, but ive already got that any internet needy apps on my blkberry.

is anyone sure about the september release date? i lost my classic and dont want to buy another one if the new touch has enough memory, but also dont want to wait 6 months!

Apple has always released the new generations ipods in september

And probably the 64GB memory update might be soon in April like last year

GPS is less likely because it would make the product thicker and make the IPT too close to the iphone

So I don't believe in gps even if it is in my wishes list

 

[marcovanschagen]

External Memory

I'd like to be able to add some external memory. I see no one ask for such a thing. It would be so great to be able to push in a micro SD card, to be able to change your music, movies and such. Even better, if this would be possible you could buy bigger SD memory every other year.
I guess iPod memory size is not the mean reason to buy a new iPod for most users, so I expect this will not hurt sales that much. Actually, I'd easier buy a new one if this feature would be added.

 

[kk1ro]

My personal iPod Touch 3G wishlist is:

Higher resolution OLED screen;
Better CPU and GPU (graphical quality capable of competing with Sony's PSP2 that'll probably have graphics on par with the original Xbox or better);
High capacity (Silver-Zinc, for example) battery;
Louder, clearer speaker;
Vibrate function for in-game rumble and for notifications while in silent mode;
Fully activated Bluetooth connectivity with cellphone/laptop-to-ipod tethering, file transfers, P2P gaming (already confirmed in 3.0), etc;
802.11n;
3.2MP (minimum) still camera;
64GB version;
WiFi syncing;
Up to 5 apps running in the background (if the hardware can handle it);
Sleep button slightly moved so we don't accidentally press it while holding the iPod firmly in landscape mode;
Headphone jack slightly moved so we can comfortably hold the iPod in landscape while gaming;
100% backwards compatible with the current applications/games;
Fiercely advertised as a gaming device.


The main differences between the iPhone 3rdGen and the iPod Touch 3G could be, again, the GPS, the phone capabilities (obviously), the lack of a second camera for video calls (iPhone 3rdGen will probably have one), higher resolution camera with video (only on the iPhone) and many more.
This would make the iPod Touch a complete platform but it would still prevent it from becoming more attractive a package than the iPhone.


P.S.:

Unrealistic wishlist:

Internal GPS receiver or the ability to connect to 3rd party dongles via Bluetooth;
Built-in mic for VoIp calls and in-game chat without a headset.

 

[The Californian]

You guys are joking... Right??

First off all, the next iPhone that's coming out is the iPhone 2, not "iPhone 4G" like someone has been saying. I can understand the confusion due to most iPods being designated by their generation ie. My iPod video is the 5G iPod. But with the iPhone 3G is a type of wireless service to stay "untechnical".

A lot of what you guys are asking for is silly. The iPod Touch is a media player... NOT a gaming machine, if you want a gaming machine go buy a PSP. The guy asking for the SD slot... Come on, that's just not Apples style... If you think an SD card will make transferring music and media easier... You're doing it wrong now.

Here's what you will get:

Better resolution screen
More memory
Faster Internet
Faster CPU/GPU

You're not going to get a bunch of great stuff that the iPhone has because it's not an iPhone and Apple doesn't want the two products to compete.

 

[kk1ro]

First off all, the next iPhone that's coming out is the iPhone 2, not "iPhone 4G" like someone has been saying. I can understand the confusion due to most iPods being designated by their generation ie. My iPod video is the 5G iPod. But with the iPhone 3G is a type of wireless service to stay "untechnical".

A lot of what you guys are asking for is silly. The iPod Touch is a media player... NOT a gaming machine, if you want a gaming machine go buy a PSP. The guy asking for the SD slot... Come on, that's just not Apples style... If you think an SD card will make transferring music and media easier... You're doing it wrong now.

Here's what you will get:

Better resolution screen
More memory
Faster Internet
Faster CPU/GPU

You're not going to get a bunch of great stuff that the iPhone has because it's not an iPhone and Apple doesn't want the two products to compete.

The one that's coming out is actually the iPhone 3, not 2.
Original iPhone - iPhone 1st Gen;
iPhone 3G - iPhone 2nd Gen;
Next iPhone - iPhone 3rd Gen.

I disagree with you on the "The iPod Touch is (...) NOT a gaming machine" statement. It is most definitely a gaming machine, just not on par with the portable consoles from Sony and Nintendo. It doesn't mean it can't get better. People need to understand that the iPhone/Touch needs games specifically developed for the platform. Devs trying to force certain genres that only work with buttons and analog sticks will surely fail.

"Better resolution screen
More memory
Faster Internet
Faster CPU/GPU"

I believe all of those will be present in the next iPod but new hardware features will also be available and with the DSi sporting not one, but two cameras, I think Apple will indeed include a still camera in the next iteration of the does-it-all media player.

 

[beater]

gps on ipod touch 2g?

I know everone has a different want for the new ipod touch.

I want some one that has the infromation to explain how the gps on the iphone works? My friend has the iphone but doesn't know how it works. I have a thought but not sure. "does it just ping off cell towers"?

and please don't flame me for question; it just something i would like to know and see on future ipod 2g.

thanks to all