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Merom/Core 2 Duo (Mobile) Now Shipping?

macaddict06 said:
.........................................3) The MacBook won't see an upgrade for a few months - maybe a speed bump in September, but otherwise, I wouldn't expect Core2Duo in it by maybe December or MWSF '07. Till then, your MB will be perfectly fine.
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the macbook was released mid may 06. so i would expect some update in october given the fast processor updates.

certainly a good time for mac users.:)
 
extraextra said:
Now all the MBP's need are new enclosures, and I'm sold!


MB's aren't going to get Merom so soon because they've only been out for a little while (as opposed to the MBP's) and I think there needs to be a bigger differentiation between the MB's and MBP's.
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Geez!!! The Intel Imac has been out since what Janurary? Should the Imac not be the next to upgrade? Will it go with Conroe or Meron? Maybe a better videocard?
 
i think the macbook should get the chips with 2 MB of shared L2 cache,

and the pro's get the chips with 4 MB of shared L2 cache

There will be then a difference between the two models (is having 4mb of shared L2 cache a lot better than 2mb? i have no idea but i presume it is)

or perhaps just let the blackbook have the 2.0ghz chip with 4mb of shared l2 cache to compensate for them charging for colour
 
danr_97070 said:
Here are my predictions for WWDC; I think it will be an amazing event!

* Quad core Woodcrest-based PowerMac. Overclocked with Intel's new
liquid cooling system (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/295).

* Video iPod update; widescreen iPod with virtual controls.

* Compiler optimizations to take full advantage of multi-core processors.

* Processor updates for the MacBook Pro's (updated to Merom) with
associated heat/power reduction.

* More applications available as Universal binaries.

* Application updates:

+ Boot camp.
+ iWork with spreadsheet.
+ OS X (Leopard, Finder update, iTunes, etc.)

* New Apple applications (e.g., simple spreadsheet added to iWork).

* Demo of Parallels Workstation on new hardware (fastest Windows box on
the planet).

* Demo/mention of Nike + iPod sport kit.

* Higher capacity Nanos.
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Good luck with all that...

No video iPod or nano...those are consumer products. No Leopard...preview, yes; release, no. No iWork...that comes out every January at MWSF.
 
andiwm2003 said:
the macbook was released mid may 06. so i would expect some update in october given the fast processor updates.

certainly a good time for mac users.:)
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For sure, they might even announce something at WWDC?
 
Sam* said:
i think the macbook should get the chips with 2 MB of shared L2 cache,

and the pro's get the chips with 4 MB of shared L2 cache

There will be then a difference between the two models (is having 4mb of shared L2 cache a lot better than 2mb? i have no idea but i presume it is)

or perhaps just let the blackbook have the 2.0ghz chip with 4mb of shared l2 cache to compensate for them charging for colour
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some review of the core2duo (don't remeber the site but it was very reputable) showed that with current software the 4MB cache gives you only 5-7% over the 2MB cache. the 2MB cache chips are much cheaper so that would be a good alternative for the macbooks. i'd buy one.
 
Maybe MacBook Pro 13"...

Well, since WWDC has been bumped from the usual June day, we all know something is coming. I kinda am hoping for a 13" MBP. They could introduce the 13" MBP along with bumped up 15" and 17" ones. Then, they could intro the MacPro. It would be one WWDC. Maybe they'll deliver something for the Paris Expo too. Maybe new iPods. They are trying to clear out the current ones with the Edu incentive of buy a mac, get a free nano. So, maybe a new nano is in the works. I can't wait. I won't be buying anything for a couple more years, but I love hearing about Apple stuff.
 
vaxt said:
G5 PowerBooks on Tuesday!
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:eek: :D

I think MacBooks will get Merom in their second revision. Either way, I'm liking Intel's relentless surge.
 
toneloco2881 said:
Well, when you couple the fact it's an entirely new architecture for intel, along with being 64-bit, it might tie in nicely at the developer conference. I expect Leopard to evolve into a full 64-bit OS so these chips can would make for a great entrance at WWDC...IMO.
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I agree, 64 bit would be developer worthy, but why wait to introduce a new chip until then? Picture this - release new MBP and iMacs with the new chip before WWDC. At WWDC you annouce and showcase the OS, not the hardware, and at the end introduce a new desktop model and then say "all our pro line of computers and even the top consumer line support 64 bit NOW". Far more impact IMHO.
 
I hope people don't get their hopes up, then start posting negative threads all over the place when not all the rumors come true at WWDC.

Unlikely - New iPods, Mini and MacBook
Not sure - New iMac, MacBook Pro
Likely - ACD update or price slash.
Highly likely - New Power Mac called Mac Pro.
 
I'll get a MBP once Apple or someone else figures out how to make them work on an air flight. There is no Empower solution and the draw of 85w exceeds the juice (75w) that the seatside powerports provide. It's amazing this is even an issue in a "pro" line of portables - let alone from Apple. No 3rd party solutions solve this isssue.
 
something to remember about product update cycles:

iSight iMac G5 came out in October '05, Intel iMac came out just 3 months later... in January '06.

just thought I should remind everyone.
 
daniel_hamekasi said:
something to remember about product update cycles:

iSight iMac G5 came out in October '05, Intel iMac came out just 3 months later... in January '06.

just thought I should remind everyone.
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Remind us about what? Please be a little less cryptic because some people are tired here :p
 
Slipmip said:
This may be a dumb question, but why would apple just use the new chips in mbp's and not the mb? Dosn't seem to make sense. As soon as core 2 merom comes out every pc notebook will have it. Price wouldn't be an issue cause merom is same price as yonah, correct?
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Because yonah will be cheaper. Yonah prices will drop again when merom ships.

And "every PC notebook" will most certainly NOT have merom. Cheaper PC laptops will still have yonah.

heisetax said:
To date we have not seen Apple update any of their Intel products. So it may not be any different. The pressure will be on Apple with new processors coming out all of the time. Steve Jobs keps Apple from doing what you would exspect much of the time.
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They speed bumped the MBP before it shipped, didn't they also do a minor update when the 17 shipped?

ITASOR said:
With the more frequent processor changes/speed upgrades that goes along with switching to Intel, what is Apple going to do with all the "left overs" of old versions of products?
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They can sell them at a discount. But there won't be many of these in most cases, since for example the MBP doesn't need any additional changes along with swapping in a merom chip. The imac and mini could take merom just by swapping a chip in a socket (so the user could even do it).
 
Ludicrous

I'm thinking many people are going to be upset after WWDC because they didn't get what they wanted - there is too much expected here. WWDC is aimed at developers. The only reason they would roll out an iPod now instead of the norm of September is because they are putting games on it or making it a Ulta-portable. To rephrase it, there will be no iPod update at WWDC. New colors of tube socks? Maybe.

I agree with the other post about what is certain and what is not. However, I am not sure I see an update coming for the ACDs. They are hot, the Pro enclosure (G5 --> MacPro) is likely not to change, and they are selling well.

I think expecting Apple to dump everything they have been working on now is simply myopic. They will stagger releases as always, and no worries children, the Steve is a benevolent provider.
 
I'm just burnin' doin' the Merom Dance!

Sing it with me, now! :D

Regardless of what happens on the 7th, I'm ordering a MBP. Though, things look like they're shaping up for that! Apple would be nuts not to put that chip in the MBP now that it's shipping.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed! Can't wait....
 
BlizzardBomb said:
Remind us about what? Please be a little less cryptic because some people are tired here :p
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lol sorry... just saying that products dont necessarily have to wait the 6 month grace period before bein upgraded.

iMac was drastically upgraded from G5 to Core Duo after just 3 months.

Could be the same with the current line-up.
 
Maybe I'm out in right field with this suggestion, but how about a further separation between the black Macbook and the white, other than color?

Macbooks (white) - Yonah and integrated graphics (960?)
Macbook (black) - Merom and the new integrated graphics (965???)

That would certainly justify the black's higher cost and would give it more of a punch to be that PB 12" replacement.
 
daniel_hamekasi said:
lol sorry... just saying that products dont necessarily have to wait the 6 month grace period before bein upgraded.

iMac was drastically upgraded from G5 to Core Duo after just 3 months.

Could be the same with the current line-up.
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Yup. But it works the other wey too, look at the ACDs and Power Macs.
 
danr_97070 said:
Here are my predictions for WWDC; I think it will be an amazing event!
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It's posts like this that leave people disappointed after every keynote. When has apple EVER released that many things at once? WWDC will see the mac pro, a leopard demo, and maybe one other new product if we're lucky. Your expectations border on the absurd.
 
macnews said:
I agree, 64 bit would be developer worthy, but why wait to introduce a new chip until then? Picture this - release new MBP and iMacs with the new chip before WWDC. At WWDC you annouce and showcase the OS, not the hardware, and at the end introduce a new desktop model and then say "all our pro line of computers and even the top consumer line support 64 bit NOW". Far more impact IMHO.
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I don't think Apple would do a quiet release of a new MBP on their website, only to say "oh yeah......shipping in about a month". They'd rather just intro it at an event, and tell people your not going to be able to get their hands on it for a while.

Sort of like what they did at Macworld. Intel announcing a chip shipping, and actually being able to purchase a product with said chip inside, are two entirely different things. I seriously doubt anyone is going to be able to get their hands on a Merom-equipped notebook for at least a couple weeks, which happens to coincide with WWDC. Just imho....:)
 
Why would Apple indtoduce iPods/MacBooks at WWDC?

Three words: Back to School.
 
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