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Back when Facebook was growing it seemed like he had a number of pillars to fall back on

- Games/Social apps - everything from scrabble through to FarmVille and other casual games ran on the Facebook platform and got people playing with each other. What happened to this? Why wasn't his built on, expanded, made more premium, better experience etc.

- Photo curation - albums, tags, friends etc. - for a while it was one of the few places you could organise your photo library and if you understood it, could share photos with friends etc. Now people are less keen on this. Photos are sent privately in WhatsApp, or shared using google photos or apple photos etc. What happened to this? why wasn't this built on? It kept people on the platform

- Commerce - people would tag their interests and therefore make it easy to serve up adverts, Facebook could have pushed this hard and become a customisable shopping platform.... but instead they relied on the adverts only which would then capture information to sell to customers, rather than keeping people on the Facebook website or in the app, doing the buying and selling inside Facebook.

Look how 'sticky' sites like Reddit are, or even twitter. People are so engaged, looking, checking etc. So much of that with Facebook is dead or dying. They've just let it rot as Zuck has been obsessed with the vapourware that is 'the meta verse' which sounds like something Adam Neumann would dream up as part of his latest scam.

In any normal company, Zuck would be booted out, and Facebook would have a 'Satya Nadella' moment. Facebook is wildly successful but they definitely need a new chief to take them to the next level, just as Microsoft did.
Yup. I was a heavy Facebook user back then, especially in utilizing the photo album features. And back then, Facebook was useful in keeping track what friends are posting.

But now, on my news feed, on every other post, there are ad posts and suggested posts (which are mostly spam). It's practically unusable. To find updates of my friends, I have to literally search their name and go to their page one at a time. The feed has become useless.

What Facebook is doing right now is simply buying any potential disruptor while going nowhere. People are converting to Instagram for photo postings, and Facebook then simply bought it. The same story with Whatsapp.

I think when they are deciding to boot out Zuck, he might turn into a Terminator.
 
I take a certain degree of enjoyment in watching the ZuckerLizard's failures slowly mount up.

I left FB about 2 years ago. I just got sick of it. Primarily for the constant politics. I couldn't post a cat meme without some malcontent saying "I think that cat is the opposite political part as you! Durr. Durr. Durr". There were other reasons I left. Another being I just didn't see the value in giving out THAT much information about where I was and what I was doing to people on the internet.

So what we're witnessing is the slow collapse of both Facebook and Twitter. The whole "social media" thing has just about run its course. This is a benefit to humanity as a whole, and young people in particular.

The death of Facebook began several years ago, but became evident when the name changed to "Meta" and you started hearing corporate buzz words like "Pivot", "paradigm shift" and crap like that.

Twitter died during the last election cycle (Facebook took a hit too). You can't piss off a large portion of your user base and expect to keep rolling in the dough. And IDK what your stripe is, when a large portion of the population blames you for all that is ill with the world, your advertising takes a hit. Revenue takes a hit.

The Metaverse business isn't helping well, Meta. It's New Coke, Windows, Vista, the Edsel, and those potato chips that had no fat but made you poop a LOT all rolled into one.

Excuse me, I have to go listen to some music on my Zune now. :rolleyes:
 
.... In an imaginary economic system where the workers have more power, they might have ousted him. Instead, with Meta, it's the shareholders who can oust him, not the staff.
Which has never worked anywhere in the world at any point in history, so what is the point.
 
Zuck trying desperately to pivot to something else, as you might expect. Sometimes people really do have only one 'big idea' which makes them rich and which they can do well. An option for him would be to double down on Facebook and just focus on making the experience richer, better, more personal, with more options for commerce, business etc.

But instead Facebook are determined to go down a hardware route.

Facebook really stopped being 'cool' (if they ever were) a decade ago. So what have they got? a social media platform for those who are 30+ years old. They own the Oculus VR headsets which are good enough and have a niche.

Who would ever want a Facebook watch?

FB has the largest userbase of any tech company in the world. No need to pivot, just acquire.
 
Who would want anything with Facebook branding on it? You are a privacy-invasion software company, not a product maker.
 
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One failure after the other. Truly exquisite business.

“Zuckerberg said the layoffs were the combined result of his own poor decisions, macroeconomic downturn, increased competition, and ads signal loss, all of which resulted in lower-than-expected revenue…”

But mostly his own bad decisions.

Given how Zuck isn’t very good at scalability and sustainability of anything original, and Google is more or less the place where acquisitions go to die, I have new found respect for Apple which not only successfully scales new ideas, but successfully integrates it’s acquisitions.
Excuse me what? A failure after the other? Bad at scaling? We're talking about one of the biggest companies not only in the US, but in the entire world. Facebook is in the 1%.
 
The mass layoff is interesting, while I couldn't care less about Facebook's demise (past marketplace which is rather solid) they axed a lot of their R&D. There's lots of smaller entities that are contractors who will be losing a bit of revenue for Q4, as a result.
 
Excuse me what? A failure after the other? Bad at scaling? We're talking about one of the biggest companies not only in the US, but in the entire world. Facebook is in the 1%.

And so goes Sears, WorldCom, Bear Stearns, Lehman, AIG, etc. The list of corporate hubris goes on and on.

All these companies were considered leaders and the "biggest companies" in their heyday. All are now gone.

It's kinda clear that while FB isn't sunk, the ship is clearly taking on water at an alarming rate. The captain is hoping that by re arranging the deck chairs he can somehow stave off the inflow of bad news.

FB is behind the 8 ball. Its user base is aging at the same time its shrinking like a puddle in the late spring sun.

Advertising revenues are down for multiple reasons. Stacks of cash have been wasted on dead end projects. Employment rolls are swollen with overpaid employees onboarded during better times that really need to go. Faile acquisitions have yielded little fruit.

Ditching this project is small fry. FB needs to cut the fat to the bone to survive the coming economic downturn or else.

If I were a market person, I would be shorting the ever loving crap out of this stock right now.
 
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This is a good move for Meta. The fact that they thought anyone would want a watch from them is the question. I would never buy a hardware product from a company known for tracking users every way they can.
 
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Oh this is a big loss to everyone who wants to collect copious personal data from Facebook users and utilise it in a nefarious manner.
Only good thing I can ever thing of with insane tracking is needing an alibi

Where were you two days ago at 6:17pm

Hey Zuck, where was I two days ago at 6:17pm

You were at XYZ Restaurant. You ordered blahblah; at 6:43pm, you paid with MC -6464. You left in Make Model Car and arrived home at 7:03pm.....
 
This is a good move for Meta. The fact that they thought anyone would want a watch from them is the question. I would never buy a hardware product from a company known for tracking users every way they can.
I am convinced most people don’t care. I believe you and I are in a tiny minority. Our philosophy on the matter is so logical and so fundamental to freedom, it’s hard to comprehend not caring. But most people don’t.
 
In any normal company, Zuck would be booted out, and Facebook would have a 'Satya Nadella' moment. Facebook is wildly successful but they definitely need a new chief to take them to the next level, just as Microsoft did.

Impossible for shareholders to oust him, Zuckerberg has 54.4% of Class B stock which has 10x the voting power of a regular share. The house always wins... unless it burns down.
Cue the shareholder rights lawyers and fasten your seatbelts. This could get bumpy. :cool:
 
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