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I think we all saw this sales slump coming, and many of us were told in the lead up to AVP “haha you doubt Apple - just watch.”

But now that it’s happened… can I just say I cast doubts on even the cheaper models doing well. It seems Apple hasn’t managed to address the biggest concern of all, which is lack is games.

A cheaper model isn’t going to magically bring games in.
 
I think we all saw this sales slump coming, and many of us were told in the lead up to AVP “haha you doubt Apple - just watch.”

But now that it’s happened… can I just say I cast doubts on even the cheaper models doing well. It seems Apple hasn’t managed to address the biggest concern of all, which is lack is games.

A cheaper model isn’t going to magically bring games in.
It’s not gonna be games because Apple does not and never will get games. But there could be a killer app or app category. Except they now also don’t get developers who are largely treated like serfs and share croppers mooching off the land. Like so much of modern Apple’s problems they have only themselves to blame.
 
The AVP would be a hard sell even at $999. Hell the quest 3 is a hard sell at 500 and it does a lot more than the AVP. I have a quest 2. It is fantastic and amazing still. We always say wow this is so real and feels like you are there. Yet we haven’t used it in months. We go back to tablets, gaming consoles and phones. It’s just the hassle of putting on the head set and then your isolated…
 
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Another possibility is extreme weather preventing travel or outdoor activities
But that would also cause infrastructure collapse, rendering your devices powerless as there is no power.
This is the lesson which Apple keeps teaching, and which others keep ignoring, often to their own detriment. :cool:
Can’t wait for Apple to slowly eat away all other competitors and become a true monopoly everyone cheers and support.
 
Not surprised. Definitely not expecting a very costly AR/VR headset to sell well.
 
VR like 3D TV has no place in the tech world, it’s more of a novelty that wears off. AI however is sadly the future.
 
Yeah, as if I'm the only one with doubts about this product. So is it n=1 or n=many?

You keep trying to ignore the converging opinions of those who have tested, used, or owned the Vision Pro.

The sales numbers tell you there's more doubt than acceptance of Apple's mass market headset.
The sales numbers don’t matter to those of us who find value.
 
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I mean that’s what any company has to do. There was a time when the iPhone didn’t exist and focusing on phones as a computer company seemed absurdly dumb. The same is true for the App Store.

Focusing and building a market where one doesn’t exist is important.

They won’t always be right. But they have the money to be fantastically successful when they are.
It’s because they were over betting on the new lockdown Covid way of life, taking hold and becoming a new norm.

They were so sold on it that they were convinced everyone will need a Vision Pro to feel like they were actively engaging in society, face-to-face even if there was a pandemic still going on

Too bad they didn’t be on medicine
 
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VR is niche. Apple refusing to call it VR stinks of naivety.

Hopefully now they can go back to fixing the mess that is every Apple OS due to devoting so many resources to Vision Pro.

It's okay though, they're gonna released a gimped version at $2000 so everyone can afford it!
Apple was refusing to call it VR only because they don’t own the term VR.
But they do own spatial computing or spatial video

I see it kind of like how WeWork stubbornly insisted it was a tech company, but not a real estate company.
 
If you were in Cook’s shoes you would have invested more into this pointless product? Apple wants the little people to risk their capital and sweat on the software.
I find that most hardware needs good software to make it worthwhile, especially entirely new computing platforms.
 
How many MBA's does it take to realize that nobody wants to pay $3500 to strap a brick to their face
I wouldn’t say no one.

But certainly not enough people who can actually afford it and would be committed to it like they are to an iPhone or an iPad for consistent yearly update, updates or upgrades
 
It’s really quite simple:

Zuckerberg didn’t wanna get stuck, holding the bag of being the only ridiculously overpriced headset on the market. That would make him look like a total incompetent boob to his board and stockholders.

as it is, he’s already pinned the fate of Facebook to the future of VR.
that KAUA’I bunker compound he’s been building doesn’t pay for itself you know
 
True, but Apple nowadays feels way too entitled to create a truly new product category. They simply expect everyone to buy their products no matter what price they charge.
Instead, what they should have done is offer the AVP for a significantly lower price, swallow the losses, invest heavily in developers and content creators for the AVP, and create a market they can then dominate for years.
They predicted to sell about half a million units for that price and they will probably hit that mark by end of year. Seems like they know exactly what they are doing.
 
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Just as possible, Meta‘s subterfuge tricked Apple into pouring their money, resources, and focus into a white elephant.
That's some 1 dimensional thinking there. Hey, let's pour billions into a product we don't want to make in the hopes that we fool another company into doing something similar.
 
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Oh Im not surprised in the least bit.
it’s all in the numbers.
 
I am so confused. When the Vision Pro launched they said there’s only enough for about 500k because Sony can’t make more than that. Now we are hearing that Apple is only expected to sell 500k So does that mean Apple will sell every one they make?
 
I love my AVP, still.

1) Not every product has to be a mass market product.
2) I am long-term bullish on Spatial Computing, and my AVP is used primarily as a productive device
3) We early adopters are paving the way for your "eyeglass size" devices
4) Meta sells the Quest for a loss; because the device isn't the product, you are.
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Most consumers who fork out so many $100 bills expect all benefits, no downsides.

It would be like Apple selling a $100k car with only three seats.
Not the best example. The most expensive cars out there are 2 seaters.
 
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