Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says Quest 3 is Better Than Apple Vision Pro

[gcmexico]

I am so confused with the comparison between the Vision Pro and Quest 3! I have Quest 2 and 3, Vision Pro blows them out of the water PERIOD! it’s ecosystem, ecosystem, ecosystem…Meta does not have one, Apple does end of story…Vision Pro imessage, emails, safari, photos, music, all of it syncs…movies look stunning on Vision Pro, Quest 3 doesn’t come close, big screen app is trash…Quest 3 no HBO Max, disney+, Hulu, no streaming other then Netflix, who cares about Netflix and spotify….all you can do on the Quest 3 is play bait and watch youtube…every time it’s my wife’s turn to use Vision Pro I last 10 minutes on quest 3 it is boring and pointless…resolution and pass through on Vision Pro is way better than Quest 3, I can actually do things and read things while using Vision Pro, Quest 3 nope…Quest 3 feels like a 500 bucks piece of junk because it is…is Vision Pro perfect no way but Apple’s Gen 1 destroys Meta’s Gen 3…and I haven’t even mentioned 3D movies on Vision Pro, just watch Ready Player One or BladeRunner 2049 3D…cmon people lol

 

[gcmexico]

The comments here are absolutely hilarious.

Without a doubt, the Quest 3 is overall a better product than the Vision Pro - just because it has one aspect that’s better it does not make it a better product overall. The ecosystem alone on the Quest is years beyond what Apple can achieve. Apple products will always be more expensive too, and so it never become the dominant product within VR/AR/XR (in the same way Windows is still dominant in computing, as you can more bang for your buck in terms of hardware).

this has to be the funniest thing I have read, what ecosystem does the Quest 3 have!!! lol is this a joke? Facebook is not an ecosystem…if I am wrong please for the love of god explain

 

[Marty80]

Too me even though i have no interest in vr. Mark is desperate to sell his already failed product.

 

[Wanted797]

CEO says that their companies product is better than the competition.

 

[JordanCautious]

Comparing a product that has been refined and learned from its mistakes for years to a company's first gen product is hilarious to me. Did bro forget how Oculus started? Oh that's right, he just bought them and changed the name to Meta

 

[boss.king]

Depending on what you want to do, this is arguably true. The Vision Pro seems to win in plenty of areas, but not all.

I don’t think Apple gets the benefit of “it’s only gen 1” because they could have taken as long as they needed and worked privately with any dev on earth if they wanted to. They decided that the current iteration was good enough.

I don’t find either to be very appealing, although if someone were to put a gun to my head, I’d obviously take the Vision Pro.

Ironically, the Vision Pro launch has convinced me that the Google Glass/North Focals/etc HUD-style glasses are the better implementation of face-worn tech.

 

[cwosigns]

I haven't used a Vision Pro so I can't make a comparative statement, but I do have a Quest 3. I am a die-hard Apple guy, and the Quest 3 is fine. It does some things great. Gaming with the controllers is a lot of fun. I can use it as a display for my MacBook Pro. The YouTube VR app is incredible. The Netflix app is great for watching movies. The browser is very usable.

To me the biggest disappointment is its lack of integration into my Apple ecosystem (FaceTime, Messages, Apple TV+, Safari bookmarks, email, etc.). This, however, isn't worth $3000 to me. Especially when I can still use my Apple devices via pass through. The pass through is adequate in bright lighting.

I bought the Quest 3 to get a taste of AR/VR before potentially making a larger investment. That likely won't be the v1 Apple Vision Pro, though. I am keen to see what v2 looks like, though.

 

[KratosKilla]

Comparing a product that has been refined and learned from its mistakes for years to a company's first gen product is hilarious to me. Did bro forget how Oculus started? Oh that's right, he just bought them and changed the name to Meta

I mean every company interested in VR has been studying Oculus and other view finders for over a decade now.

Apple is selling a product for $3500. The Gen 1 vs Gen 3 comparison doesn't really fly. The Vision Pro should be blowing it out of the water from the jump.

I don't have either device, but the points being made in the article seem compelling to me.

For someone whose experience with VR helmets has been hindered by the annoyances of weight, comfort, adjustments, and wires, those are attributes I would expect a User Interface company like Apple to nail out of the gate from how long it took them to engineer this and jump into the market.

 

[Jensend]

this has to be the funniest thing I have read, what ecosystem does the Quest 3 have!!! lol is this a joke? Facebook is not an ecosystem…if I am wrong please for the love of god explain

The Vision Pro has more apps total. The Quest 3 has more apps designed for VR. How many apps does the Vision Pro have that aren't essentially just floating windows?

 

[kerr]

Zuck, some of us are happy to wait for Apple Vision Pro SE.

 

[ThailandToo]

Pretty sure Vision Pro has Micro-OLED not MicroLED panels… different technologies!

People make mistakes which is fine, but it should be corrected nearly instantly when people get their facts from media sites like this. People get confused due to media like this site reporting inaccurate information repeatedly and there’s rarely any accountability in correcting the misinformation.

 

[riverfreak]

Attached to computer.

Attached to data harvesting business model.

No thanks.

 

[contacos]

Competition is good everyone and use cases are different. I personally have no use for floating screens in 2D for example and mainly use my Quest 3 for VR gaming or video content. I never use pass through as the whole point for me to strap a device on my head is to „escape“ reality and watch something in a virtual IMAX cinema and not my own room. I also don’t like hand gestures because using controllers ironically seems more natural to me when using devices but again, that is just my use case and for this I am glad a 500 bucks Quest 3 is available.

My Quest 3 is the first device where I don’t miss the Apple ecosystem since it does have WhatsApp and Instagram and I am certainly not gonna interact with Mail on it. If I choose to be productive, I use virtual desktops (yes plural!) of my Mac, otherwise I am glad I don’t have those „interruptions“ of notifications here and there.

Most importantly though: no Beat Saber!

 

[contacos]

Is this a joke? I own both and they don’t compare. You can hardly watch any movies or tv shows on the quest. Only Netflix. No live tv apps. No Disney, no iTunes or Apple TV. It’s horrible. Great technology and nothing to do with it. Vision Pro is mind blowing and I can use it for anything. Live sports on this thing is a game changer. Zuck is delusional.

That’s not true at all. There are dedicated Amazon Prime and Disney+ Apps available and if you don’t like those, you can sideload the android APK (Hulu, HBO Max, Netflix etc work too) or simply use something like „Immersed“ to watch those in high quality from your browser. You can also use Plex or stream any movie files imaginable with the right app.

Also why are you blaming Meta for not having an Apple TV app? That’s on Apple obviously

 

[RedWeasel]

A guy who runs a social media company proclaims he does hardware and software better than Apple. I mean how delusional can one be?

Well I'm no FB fan by any means, but the Quest hardware is made by a Meta unit called Reality Labs which was formerly a company called Oculus VR that got bought by Meta. Behind that company were industry legends like John Carmack and and Marc Andreesen.

So it's not like this is some side business run by clueless people.

And Meta made React, which is one of the leading web UI libraries, used by companies like Microsoft, Netflix, Dropbox and many more.

Credit where credit is due.

 

[dante_mr]

I mean let’s be honest would any Apple fan on here admit that someone else does it better? I love Apple but they don’t do EVERYTHING better. Let’s be realistic here.

Sure and I totally agree that Apple doesn't do everything better (cough gaming cough).

But based on what I've seen of the Vision Pro, and what I've experienced with my Quest 3, the Vision Pro is overall the better product (that is I'm disagreeing with Mark).

The Quest 3 however is still the better value since it is indeed 7 times cheaper.

If both the Quest 3 and Vision Pro were both priced exactly the same, the majority of consumers would pick the Vision Pro. Obviously this is an unfair comparison (that goes both ways), but according to Mark, people would/should pick the Quest 3 every time if it is indeed the better product.

Which I wholeheartedly disagree with.

So let's make it more fair and compare the products as they are except replace Apple's display with the same exact one as the Quest 3. I'm keeping the hand/eye tracking on Vision since that's central to the Vision's entire existence.

I'd argue people would still choose this "Vision SE" over the Quest 3.

I'd argue the same if this version of Vision were priced even higher at $1000. Because the selling point of the Vision platform is the OS itself, the entertainment apps/developer support, and overall ecosystem. Those are aspects Meta has not delivered on at all in the decade since they've purchased Oculus.

What on earth has Meta been doing in the past 10 years?

 

[dante_mr]

That’s not true at all. There are dedicated Amazon Prime and Disney+ Apps available and if you don’t like those, you can sideload the android APK (Hulu, HBO Max, Netflix etc work too) or simply use something like „Immersed“ to watch those in high quality from your browser. You can also use Plex or stream any movie files imaginable with the right app.

Also why are you blaming Meta for not having an Apple TV app? That’s on Apple obviously

There isn't a dedicated Disney+ app. And as a Quest user the access to streaming is a very annoying problem to deal with.

Why do I have to go through the trouble of side loading apps, or using a third part app like Bigscreen (which doesn't offer all streaming apps), or rely on a PC (defeating the purpose of a standalone headset)?

With the Vision. You either download the app, or go on Safari to stream. Simple.

And with vision there's the perk of a plethora of 3D movies to choose from in high quality. On Quest you either pirate a 3D copy and manually download it, or use Bigscreen which just has a few movies in 3D.

The Quest can't even stream Netflix out of the box on the web browser. You have to download a third party web browser to do it. At that point it's easier to just watch things by pirating (which is what I do via VRchat since it's my only option).

The real problem is why hasn't Meta done anything to address any of the above in the 10 years they've owned Oculus? How did Apple manage to get a large handful of streaming services to create dedicated native apps for a brand new platform that costs $3500 and most people won't even buy? Why couldn't Meta do the same after 4 generations of Quest devices and 20+ million Quest devices sold?

It's not like Meta is an indie company with no resources. Makes no sense at all.

 

[dante_mr]

It’s cheaper for sure. I feel like quest 3 still need a few generations to go before the display quality is good enough.
Sounds like Apple is there, but have other kinks to work out, price being one of them.

The problem isn't the displays to be honest.

Yes, you can see the pixels on the Quest 3 but the displays are actually super good for the price. 4K content looks amazing (especially anime).

The problem is entirely software in my experience. It's such a nuisance trying to watch/stream stuff on the Quest that I can't be bothered to do it. From what I've seen online of the Vision Pro, you can just put it on and get to streaming in a couple of clicks. It looks so wonderful.

 

[DeepWebinar]

he’s wrong but the apple one isn’t $3K better. and they’re both stupid so what are we even talking about here

 

[Zest28]

Mark is right. The $500 Quest 3 does pretty much everything that the $4000 Apple Vision Pro does. Even Virtual Desktop is what the Quest 3 does, and it can do more than 1 display (while the Apple Vision PRo is limited to 1 screen).

 

[Schnegg]

Maybe the Quest is just e little bit too open for me, Mark. Open relationships are hard.

 

[contacos]

There isn't a dedicated Disney+ app. And as a Quest user the access to streaming is a very annoying problem to deal with.

Why do I have to go through the trouble of side loading apps, or using a third part app like Bigscreen (which doesn't offer all streaming apps), or rely on a PC (defeating the purpose of a standalone headset)?

With the Vision. You either download the app, or go on Safari to stream. Simple.

And with vision there's the perk of a plethora of 3D movies to choose from in high quality. On Quest you either pirate a 3D copy and manually download it, or use Bigscreen which just has a few movies in 3D.

The Quest can't even stream Netflix out of the box on the web browser. You have to download a third party web browser to do it. At that point it's easier to just watch things by pirating (which is what I do via VRchat since it's my only option).

The real problem is why hasn't Meta done anything to address any of the above in the 10 years they've owned Oculus? How did Apple manage to get a large handful of streaming services to create dedicated native apps for a brand new platform that costs $3500 and most people won't even buy? Why couldn't Meta do the same after 4 generations of Quest devices and 20+ million Quest devices sold?

It's not like Meta is an indie company with no resources. Makes no sense at all.

There used to be a store for movies and tv but it was discontinued. Apparently it didn’t sell but probably also had limited studio support. It’s very unfortunate because I agree it would be cool to easily just rent movies (in 3D). Most of these problems seem to exist by those studios / right holders themselves though. They probably see no need for it / money in it

 

[trip1ex]

About time we get an unbiased review.

 

[cicalinarrot]

I'm sure Tim Cook will tell you that iPhone is a better gaming platform than Nintendo Switch.

Elon Musk will tell you in a heartbeat that the Plaid Model S is a better car than the Porsche Taycan.

Unquestionably, Sony's Rob Stringer would recommend an XM-whatever over Airpods Max.

Why is this a story? o_0

Come on, read the article.
There’s a man at the top of an emerging new market comparing two of the biggest players and taking about the model that may win.
There’s very much of a story here.

 

[dwaite]

I mean let’s be honest would any Apple fan on here admit that someone else does it better? I love Apple but they don’t do EVERYTHING better. Let’s be realistic here.

Lets be honest, was Zuck going to come out with a video saying the Apple Vision Pro is better and people shouldn't buy Quest 3?