Why? Because it wasn't for you? It works for me. Can't you simply leave it at that?
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Meta Unveils 'Orion' Augmented Reality Glasses
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The Apple Vision Pro has that rarest of qualities in the VR/AR world, “Existence”.
I’ve been saying it on repeat since I got the AVP. Its current form factor isn’t the goal. AR glasses that you can easily put on and take off that look like regular glasses along with an OS like visionOS is the goal and it’s 5 to 10 years away.
Hopefully closer to 5 years than 10 but make no mistake. That’s the bet. Apple doesn’t want to be caught flat footed when some other company cracks it. They either want to crack it themselves or be next in line when another company does.
In the meantime they are going to develop the best OS and app ecosystem that they can waiting for the day when technology allows for the kind of form factor that’s socially acceptable to be seen wearing in public
It’s not like they don’t have the cash to make the kind of bet they are making and it’s most definitely a long term play (in the tech world anyway).
Meta is showing their hand here and Apple is taking note assuming they haven’t already. That’s all this is. Neither company is close to a deliverable consumer level product in an acceptable form factor for an acceptable price …. yet.
Hopefully closer to 5 years than 10 but make no mistake. That’s the bet. Apple doesn’t want to be caught flat footed when some other company cracks it. They either want to crack it themselves or be next in line when another company does.
In the meantime they are going to develop the best OS and app ecosystem that they can waiting for the day when technology allows for the kind of form factor that’s socially acceptable to be seen wearing in public
It’s not like they don’t have the cash to make the kind of bet they are making and it’s most definitely a long term play (in the tech world anyway).
Meta is showing their hand here and Apple is taking note assuming they haven’t already. That’s all this is. Neither company is close to a deliverable consumer level product in an acceptable form factor for an acceptable price …. yet.
It was disappointing that they didn't upgrade the actually-shipping Ray-Ban Meta glasses with new hardware. I use mine every day (mostly for listening to audio and taking a few photos) and would love more battery life.
The new "AI" note and reminder features are already available if you use Siri instead of the Meta interface. Translation isn't something I'll ever use, and the demo made it look like both people need to be using Meta glasses, which is an unlikely scenario outside of a Meta conference.
The new "AI" note and reminder features are already available if you use Siri instead of the Meta interface. Translation isn't something I'll ever use, and the demo made it look like both people need to be using Meta glasses, which is an unlikely scenario outside of a Meta conference.
Cybart is uber defensive because he knows Meta showed off something very cool (in a form factor that I’m sure Apple wants to get to) and Vision Pro hasn’t taken off. He’s really nasty in the way he responds to anyone who doesn’t agree with him.Haha, where's Apple Intelligence?
These glasses have problems, but IMO they are directionally correct for a future where AR is useful.
I have the AR uses of my AVP. When I put them on, I want to enter a different space all together. And I honestly can't imagine wanting AR in a pair of glasses that I would wear walking around all day. I mean, for what? "Hey Siri, what's the name of that tree in front of me?" Hey Siri, show me all the restaurants in my vicinity. How often would I do that in a day? Walking around? For the amount of times I'd do that, I simply pull out my phone.
But as a large screen display? You're not walking around using a large screen display. You're sitting. Like I do with my AVP. I never walk around with my AVP. I sit and I do work. And I do work immersively.
I know many of you think you want these glasses full time, but having the AVP, I have LESS of a desire for this type of product.
But as a large screen display? You're not walking around using a large screen display. You're sitting. Like I do with my AVP. I never walk around with my AVP. I sit and I do work. And I do work immersively.
I know many of you think you want these glasses full time, but having the AVP, I have LESS of a desire for this type of product.
I guarantee that the AR glasses that Apple is currently working on are already miles better than these Facebook glasses. lol
He’s got a point. For example, Apple doesn’t have a folding product because no one has shown that they’re able to reliably manufacture them in the numbers that would be required for an Apple phone. Only 16 million folding phones were sold last year, Apple would need that many packaged and ready to ship on day one for any release they’d do.
I mean, as glasses, they are ugly, but that also probably makes them easy to identify out in the wild ...
I logged on just to say they look like life sized lego glasses! You beat me to it!
Would be cool if Apple could eventually a pair the glasses to the iPhone and Watch for a triple threat. The new iPhones essentially have an M1 in them at this point and the Watch supports pinch gestures. Maybe hire/collaborate with someone from a Warby Parker-type company for different for styles. Still dunno if there's a market, but it would be cool to see (ha!).
People dog on Facebook for all sorts of valid reasons but they genuinely do very good people working for them on a variety of difficult technologies.
The problem continues to be that, like Google, they are an advertising company, and that undermines all their products to one degree or another.
The problem continues to be that, like Google, they are an advertising company, and that undermines all their products to one degree or another.
I agree, but that's the thing--this isn't something that they're wiling to put in consumer hands, and if they did, I wouldn't be the least surprised if it cost ten times what Vision Pro does, at least.
Vision Pro is unquestionably farther from the ideal of a "good" AR device, but Apple is willing to sell it, as a product, to consumers (as long as they don't have prism in their glasses prescription, anyway), today, has been for almost a year, and can do so for $4000, which is a lot, but still in the price range for a high-end computer. (It also has added VR capability that true AR glasses like this can't, which offsets some of the physical limitations and high cost.)
Vision Pro's substantial limitations are, I would assume, what were necessary to get this "version 0.1" of an AR OS in the hands of consumers today at a price under $10,000. If those compromises weren't necessary, then Meta would be selling this device to consumers instead of essentially advertising an in-house prototype as if it were a product.
Vision Pro may be a clunky experimental early version of a possible AR future, but it's one that has enough usefulness, and Apple has enough confidence in, to put it on the market and let people buy it.
as much as I hate to admit it, I think you're right. Apple is losing its edge, and this last round of iOS/Mac OS updates with all the issues is the latest proof of that.
Anyone know how it works? Last time we saw AR glasses, it was with Google Glass that used a small prism in the corner. But these don't seem to have that, but how do your eyes focus on something so close without any optics? I mean I'm sure there are optics but where?
I put your entire post history into an AI model because I have been noticing how negative you are :
Really? But … “According to Meta, Orion is a "feat of miniaturization," featuring components that are sized down to a fraction of a millimeter.“ 😀