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Metal Interface on Mail?
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Re: devtools
It should have come
a) with your new Mac..
but if you did not purchase a new Mac, then it should have come with...
b) with your copy of OSX
but if you don't have X...
c) then there's no problem.
It should have come
a) with your new Mac..
but if you did not purchase a new Mac, then it should have come with...
b) with your copy of OSX
but if you don't have X...
c) then there's no problem.
the truth is...
whatever theme Apple uses people would complain.
The truth is it's not hard to change the appearance of your computers look in almost any way you want to.
The truth is we're all just chatting it up here because we're waiting for something *real* to talk about!
I love it!
whatever theme Apple uses people would complain.
The truth is it's not hard to change the appearance of your computers look in almost any way you want to.
The truth is we're all just chatting it up here because we're waiting for something *real* to talk about!
I love it!
to all who are asking how to change from Aqua to brushed metal or vice versa
Metallifizer: Do you have a love/hate relationship with Aqua/brushed metal?
Metallifizer: Do you have a love/hate relationship with Aqua/brushed metal?
Re: Re: Re: how about speed...
i actually meant to say, it works fine for ME. i couldnt imagine having hundreds of emails in my mail program. but if i did, i would most likely save to disk and organize them according to project/subject.
i know a lot of people that dont like the mail program. i am fortunate enough to have it work well for me.
i actually meant to say, it works fine for ME. i couldnt imagine having hundreds of emails in my mail program. but if i did, i would most likely save to disk and organize them according to project/subject.
i know a lot of people that dont like the mail program. i am fortunate enough to have it work well for me.
I've always thought Aqua was gross and annoying, all that white is rough on the eyes. But the brushed metal thing is not much better, it's tacky and dated. iTunes looks good with it, as does Quicktime but when you start to have too much GUI on top it starts to get ugly. I'd like to see an OS that is truly transparent and out of my way. I think that would be that exact opposite of the Aqua interface. It would be nice and minimal and dark with lots of transparency, not bright white with pinstripes like a Morty Seinfeld suit.
Re: themes
I agree whole-heartedly! Rhapsodized will probably stay my theme until it breaks. I was using QuicksilveR (http://www.lostboi.com/) but it didn't make enough distinction between foreground and background windows, much like Aqua. In Rhapsodized, the tabs (like for tabbed browsing) aren't as distinct as they could be, but it's all such a nice escape from pinstripes...
Incidentally, if you want to do themes, try ThemeChanger (http://www.clichesw.com/products/themechanger/) -- much faster and simpler than Duality, and i's not nagware. Yes, it's an alpha, but it's worked fine for me (minor, non-damaging glitches) for about a dozen theme switches.
Wow, how very off-topic I've become. Oh well, the main thread of complaints and counter-complaints was getting boring.
I agree whole-heartedly! Rhapsodized will probably stay my theme until it breaks. I was using QuicksilveR (http://www.lostboi.com/) but it didn't make enough distinction between foreground and background windows, much like Aqua. In Rhapsodized, the tabs (like for tabbed browsing) aren't as distinct as they could be, but it's all such a nice escape from pinstripes...
Incidentally, if you want to do themes, try ThemeChanger (http://www.clichesw.com/products/themechanger/) -- much faster and simpler than Duality, and i's not nagware. Yes, it's an alpha, but it's worked fine for me (minor, non-damaging glitches) for about a dozen theme switches.
Wow, how very off-topic I've become. Oh well, the main thread of complaints and counter-complaints was getting boring.
can't believe so many people don't know about themes. I actually forgot I had metallifizer, and just DLded it again, and changed Mail to metal. and I kind of like it. Changed a bunch of other apps to metal too. Makes a nice contrast, and gets rid of the title bar at thetop of windows, making the window one nice smmoth panel. Very clean looking.
As for metal being dated, tell that to all the people who just bought high end stainless steel appliances. Have you been to a high end design shop lately or check out any design mags?
Seen stainless steel wall or floor tiles? Very cool, and about US$100/sq.ft.
As for metal being dated, tell that to all the people who just bought high end stainless steel appliances. Have you been to a high end design shop lately or check out any design mags?
Seen stainless steel wall or floor tiles? Very cool, and about US$100/sq.ft.
i agree there. stainless steele is great in the home. nothing is nicer than a stainless kitchen...but this is not steele we are talking about, this is a picture that is supposed to look like steel, which is not quite the same and maybe a bit cheesy? kind of like fake marble tiles. hell, why not make the whole OS look like wood while we're at it?
Geez - I think you're all missing the point.
It depends highly upon what computer you're looking at it on. When looking at metallicized Safari on my 12" G4 - it blends real nice with the computer around it.
With that in my mind - what we need is a skin engine that looks at what computer you are using and changes the window GUI to match! Of course it should be user-configurable too.
Use a Al-book - get nice Aluminium metal
Use a G4 tower - graphite GUI
Use a flowered iMac - get a flowery GUI !!
Use a Wallstreet - get Black Plastic
Use a Beige G3 - you get the idea
Use a Dell - it just crashes - No GUI
It depends highly upon what computer you're looking at it on. When looking at metallicized Safari on my 12" G4 - it blends real nice with the computer around it.
With that in my mind - what we need is a skin engine that looks at what computer you are using and changes the window GUI to match! Of course it should be user-configurable too.
Use a Al-book - get nice Aluminium metal
Use a G4 tower - graphite GUI
Use a flowered iMac - get a flowery GUI !!
Use a Wallstreet - get Black Plastic
Use a Beige G3 - you get the idea
Use a Dell - it just crashes - No GUI
I like the brushed metal, especially in Safari. The fonts in the bookmarks bar and the title bar all have an engraved look to them.
Either way, it's still better than the WindowsXP Luna garbage brought to you by the merger of Fisher-Price and the Cartoon Network.
Either way, it's still better than the WindowsXP Luna garbage brought to you by the merger of Fisher-Price and the Cartoon Network.
The colorfull iMac HW period is over.
Why do Apple continue this periode in the GUI.
Don't they get it? Everybody is going to hate this interface in two years and some alredy do.
Give me back my OS9 GUI. Stop making everything so year 2000 mainstream. The iEra is already over!!
OSX interface basicly is a spacewaster for kids.
Why do Apple continue this periode in the GUI.
Don't they get it? Everybody is going to hate this interface in two years and some alredy do.
Give me back my OS9 GUI. Stop making everything so year 2000 mainstream. The iEra is already over!!
OSX interface basicly is a spacewaster for kids.
I think that most of you would complain no matter what they made it look like. You're just a bunch of whiners!
I dig the metal interface. No, I wouldn't want it on everything, but its on Safari, so it makes sense to put it on mail. It makes the two apps more seamless.
I dig the metal interface. No, I wouldn't want it on everything, but its on Safari, so it makes sense to put it on mail. It makes the two apps more seamless.
I don't mind it at all.
Yeah I think the brushed metal looks way better than that harsh aqua pinstripe candy cane crap. I even have those foofy close/dock/max buttons turned to the graphite theme. But then again, I was a NeXTstep user and NeXTstep's icons were on brushed metal. Hell, the whole dock was brushed metal. So, maybe since the Mac cube flopped, this is Steve's retribution. *snicker* Pushing us farther toward his beloved NeXT.
In all honesty though, the grey color is much easier on the eyes, is more neutral, and IMO, looks much less like plastic. But it really is a minor thing to worry about. OS X is worlds better than XP (slap a colored window around the same ol' widgets) or *cringe* the nightmare that OS 9 became before it's death. Be glad that people at Apple are finally taking interface design seriously again instead of slapping the latest and greatest shareware UI hack into the OS as became the case with 8/9. And take heart, it could be worse, you could be using KDE. (Or much worse, CDE). *snicker*
Yeah I think the brushed metal looks way better than that harsh aqua pinstripe candy cane crap. I even have those foofy close/dock/max buttons turned to the graphite theme. But then again, I was a NeXTstep user and NeXTstep's icons were on brushed metal. Hell, the whole dock was brushed metal. So, maybe since the Mac cube flopped, this is Steve's retribution. *snicker* Pushing us farther toward his beloved NeXT.
In all honesty though, the grey color is much easier on the eyes, is more neutral, and IMO, looks much less like plastic. But it really is a minor thing to worry about. OS X is worlds better than XP (slap a colored window around the same ol' widgets) or *cringe* the nightmare that OS 9 became before it's death. Be glad that people at Apple are finally taking interface design seriously again instead of slapping the latest and greatest shareware UI hack into the OS as became the case with 8/9. And take heart, it could be worse, you could be using KDE. (Or much worse, CDE). *snicker*
It may also depend on your biology. My optometrist asked me if I had trouble with bright sunlight because my gray-blue eyes have almost no pigmentation in them, making them more sensitive to bright whites. Maybe that's one reason I like brushed metal bettern than pinstripe.
And it may depend on the monitor you're looking at. My 17" studio display looks much better than the FP iMacs at the lab I work at, where everything looks fuzzier, less refined.
And it may depend on the monitor you're looking at. My 17" studio display looks much better than the FP iMacs at the lab I work at, where everything looks fuzzier, less refined.
I think we are all on the wrong way. In official Apple's technical documentation for developers, they've put info about using brushed metal interface:
/*
Use brushed metal interface for applications that communicate with external devices, such as digital cameras, MP3 players, scanners, ...
*/
Now, let's try to think Apple's way. Brushed metal just means they're going to introduce a new device that will be connected somehow with your Mail.app. And vice versa.
So now, let's all guess what that might be!!!!
whatever
brushed metal, not brushed metal...whatever. Does it check my mail, yep it does. With all the other apps as brushed metal is this really such a shocker? Nope.
brushed metal, not brushed metal...whatever. Does it check my mail, yep it does. With all the other apps as brushed metal is this really such a shocker? Nope.
Re: I don't mind it at all.
KDE, at the very least, tries to maintain a consistent look and feel across applications.
As for CDE, I don't see what the snicker is about. Now, I'll agree that the CDE today is no longer needed. But, it did fill a very important gap. Most people think of Sun Solaris when they think of the CDE, but that's only because of how prolific the OS is. The CDE is a common look and feel that was implemented amongst a wide range of UNIX (and some non-UNIX) vendors. I remember a datacenter with several console servers side-by-side: Solaris, Digital UNIX, Tru64 UNIX, VMS, HP-UX, IRIX, and Linux. They all had the exact same interface. More importantly, the interface configuration files were portable across all of those environments.
That right there saved countless hours in support of the users who had Solaris, Digital UNIX, HP-UX, Linux, or VMS workstations. Sure, the apps they each ran were different, but a single unified interface made things so much easier to support.
Yes, it was ugly. But being beautiful wasn't the point. It was usable -- countless usability studies went into it -- for technical users and it was consistent.
KDE, at the very least, tries to maintain a consistent look and feel across applications.
As for CDE, I don't see what the snicker is about. Now, I'll agree that the CDE today is no longer needed. But, it did fill a very important gap. Most people think of Sun Solaris when they think of the CDE, but that's only because of how prolific the OS is. The CDE is a common look and feel that was implemented amongst a wide range of UNIX (and some non-UNIX) vendors. I remember a datacenter with several console servers side-by-side: Solaris, Digital UNIX, Tru64 UNIX, VMS, HP-UX, IRIX, and Linux. They all had the exact same interface. More importantly, the interface configuration files were portable across all of those environments.
That right there saved countless hours in support of the users who had Solaris, Digital UNIX, HP-UX, Linux, or VMS workstations. Sure, the apps they each ran were different, but a single unified interface made things so much easier to support.
Yes, it was ugly. But being beautiful wasn't the point. It was usable -- countless usability studies went into it -- for technical users and it was consistent.
To divide programs from windows is a very professional soultion I think, and I hope that this is what Apple is about to do. I think all applications should be using the brushed metal GUI.
Just look at MS Windows. You can't really tell wich windows are windows and which windows are programs when your desktop is filled with them, can you?
It's a splendid solution. I love it!
This is my first post by the way. I just thought I had to say something about this, because everyone seems to complain.
Just look at MS Windows. You can't really tell wich windows are windows and which windows are programs when your desktop is filled with them, can you?
It's a splendid solution. I love it!
This is my first post by the way. I just thought I had to say something about this, because everyone seems to complain.
Re: Re: I don't mind it at all.
I'd say there is plenty to snicker about. I still have a CDE machine at home (a SPARC machine running Solaris 7) and it's got a horrible interface. Want to change something, edit a text file. The only thing it's good for is as a window manager. Maybe you can have a couple shortcuts to your apps. But you sure as hell can't change or do anything meaningful to the system through CDE. Ooh, change my beep length or my window color. Whoop dee doo. And when you start talking about any driver or configuration issues with those Unices, they are light years behind OS X, barely usable to an end user, IMO.
Sure, CDE may have been a little better than OpenLook (some would beg to differ), but it wasn't anything near usable for anything other than system admins. It was basically Sun caving in to HP with Motif and HP-Vue.
As far as KDE, I've seen so many different configurations that it's hard to know what value it adds besides integrated apps. Once you customize every little widget, throw on dissimilar window managers, and then run something like AfterStep or Gnome with it, who knows how it will turn out. Maybe the integrated apps have a common feel, but if you just look at the screenshots on their web, you see the horrible inconsistency of that environment. End game, it's not usable on the desktop.
I'll give you the point that both environments serve their purpose, that much is true. But I'll go out on a limb and say that if Mac users had to use CDE or KDE, they would be miserable. However, I'd wager a large amount of cash that there would be a lot of CDE or KDE users that would be thrilled to have an interface as powerful and consistent as the Mac OS X UI.
I'd say there is plenty to snicker about. I still have a CDE machine at home (a SPARC machine running Solaris 7) and it's got a horrible interface. Want to change something, edit a text file. The only thing it's good for is as a window manager. Maybe you can have a couple shortcuts to your apps. But you sure as hell can't change or do anything meaningful to the system through CDE. Ooh, change my beep length or my window color. Whoop dee doo. And when you start talking about any driver or configuration issues with those Unices, they are light years behind OS X, barely usable to an end user, IMO.
Sure, CDE may have been a little better than OpenLook (some would beg to differ), but it wasn't anything near usable for anything other than system admins. It was basically Sun caving in to HP with Motif and HP-Vue.
As far as KDE, I've seen so many different configurations that it's hard to know what value it adds besides integrated apps. Once you customize every little widget, throw on dissimilar window managers, and then run something like AfterStep or Gnome with it, who knows how it will turn out. Maybe the integrated apps have a common feel, but if you just look at the screenshots on their web, you see the horrible inconsistency of that environment. End game, it's not usable on the desktop.
I'll give you the point that both environments serve their purpose, that much is true. But I'll go out on a limb and say that if Mac users had to use CDE or KDE, they would be miserable. However, I'd wager a large amount of cash that there would be a lot of CDE or KDE users that would be thrilled to have an interface as powerful and consistent as the Mac OS X UI.