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microsim yay or nay?
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Exactly. If i want to unlock my phone I can't just put a sim in it and go, I've got to request a microsim (assuming they all even make them available)
And by the same reasoning if I break my iPhone I've got to buy an adapter for my sim card? Annoying.
But far more people don't own an iPhone (/iPad) than do.
Unfortunately it's going to mean that if I damage my phone/battery dies/phone is stolen/etc, I'm not going to be able to use the sim in another phone until I source a replacement.
Also, I'm a bit concerned about the availability of MicroSim's for the launch of the new iPhone. I hope that Apple have given all of the networks the heads-up about this change already, because if not there may be a major shortage come the launch.
To my knowledge there are two major SIM suppliers for the UK, and neither make MicroSim's at this time. There are three networks that carry the iPhone in the UK. That's a lot of MicroSim's to produce in a short space of time.
True, but it wouldn't be the first time Apple has, despite its minority market position, has led a major paradigm shift. Anyway, since the electronics are the same and it's only the plastic that's different, I gotta believe that manufacturing a micro SIM is a trivial process.
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Just wait until someone cuts their iPhone sim to fit the iPad (sometime later this month). You'll know then if they are most likely interchangeable come June-July.
it doent matter everyone with a iphone without data has been recently forced to it by att.
You know the reason Micro-Sim took off is because they offered nothing really over Sim card.
The only real thing it offers that is useful is maybe the two way conformation of connection with the towers and even then that is rather minor.
larger memory for phone numbers is junk since most phones just off load all of the contacts to phone memory any how which is larger than even the microsim can hold plus it has a lot more information.
Apps never really should access the SIM card any how so multiple things using it at once is useless. Phone can handle it internal and just run threw the data.
Smaller size of the card saves nothing for space since the sim is so small and thin any how they just shove it in a little area that has space. The hardware to read the sim is what takes up the room and that has not changed so the minor extra size of the SIM card is not worth anything.
Also the limiting factor on the size of a phone has not been technology for years but one of being usable.
Not true. I know a few people who have been using iPhones without data since the 3G was released and are still using it without an iphone data plan on it.
Douche move by Apple to move to micro-sim on the new iPhone but what can we expect? They still refuse to go to micro usb like the rest of the civilized world and still use their ridiculous and outdated proprietary connector 
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Seems the ONLY people who would be interested in the change in SIM cards would be those people who want to use on another carrier.
I would care because what about buying a used iPhone or taking a hand me down iPhone and staying on AT&T. I could not throw my sim card into it because it is the wrong size.
It also makes it much more difficult to switch phones for a short time. Yes there are adapters but lets face it those type of things get lost all the time if they are not used and in this case they would go unused for a while. Plus you have to buy one instead of just popping you sim card out and switching phones.
I think it is stupid for apple to do this and I can not see a good reason to do it. There is a reason Micro-Sim never took off. They offered nothing really worth anything over the standard sim card. All they offered was problems and had no gain.
as you know mobile theft is a big issue and in the UK a lot of people would have a disposable phone which they would take on a night out and leave their expensive phone at home, just by simply swaping out the sim card from their smartphone to the dumb phone therefore keeping the same number,
now apple have done this idiotically stupid micro sim cr@p people can no longer do that anymore, because lets be frank most people dont have any need for a smartphone on a night out clubbing and you always have a dedicated camera which you would use for pics anyway.
news story and pic (the phone is tiny perfect for a night out)
that's why I voted nay, it's a bad move by apple esp when it would have been very simple (look at the teardown) to just have a slight dip into the battery and would be able to fully hold a full sim card with no impact to the battery life,
now apple have done this idiotically stupid micro sim cr@p people can no longer do that anymore, because lets be frank most people dont have any need for a smartphone on a night out clubbing and you always have a dedicated camera which you would use for pics anyway.
news story and pic (the phone is tiny perfect for a night out)
that's why I voted nay, it's a bad move by apple esp when it would have been very simple (look at the teardown) to just have a slight dip into the battery and would be able to fully hold a full sim card with no impact to the battery life,
In anything electronic smaller is always better first u can put it into iPad second if u need to put it in another phone use a aim adapter so i say YAY
Douche move by Apple to move to micro-sim on the new iPhone but what can we expect? They still refuse to go to micro usb like the rest of the civilized world and still use their ridiculous and outdated proprietary connector
Why is something that offers more functionality ridiculous ?'
micro usb can do the vast majority of what the 30pin connector can do, audio, video, charging, pretty much any type of addon you can throw at it (in fact I can't think of anything that the dock connector can do more than micro usb)
Douche move by Apple to move to micro-sim on the new iPhone but what can we expect? They still refuse to go to micro usb like the rest of the civilized world and still use their ridiculous and outdated proprietary connector
The Micro sim is more than likely AT&T's choice not Apple's
in all likelyhood it can't do anything extra but the advantage comes from it being far more universal both for data transfer and for charging, it means that places such as hotels can provide one standard mobile phone charger with the room without the customer worrying about forgetting any adaptors or even a whole charger, it seems a far sensible conector for the future that the rest of the mobile industry has agreed upon and only apple has stuck with its own proprietary conector
I Don't have a big problem with the microsim. I saw whatever works. I'm glad they are doing it though because i get tired of hearing about people attempting to swap sims to use data plans on other phones.
If i have to pay for unlimited data then so does everyone else that uses it. No free lunch so this will cut that all out! And to the person who was whining about micro usb. So what it's a standard? Standards are ment to be broken and then recreated.
Why don't you take a look at all of the Standards and Firsts that Apple has had. When other machines didnt even have USB ports apple's did. And Most PC's still don't come standard with Bluetooth and Look at ethernet. Apple was the first Home PC to have ethernet cards installed.
So next time you whine about apple being different and bucking the standards just remember It was the bucking that created innovation
If i have to pay for unlimited data then so does everyone else that uses it. No free lunch so this will cut that all out!
And to the person who was whining about micro usb. So what it's a standard? Standards are ment to be broken and then recreated.Why don't you take a look at all of the Standards and Firsts that Apple has had. When other machines didnt even have USB ports apple's did. And Most PC's still don't come standard with Bluetooth and Look at ethernet. Apple was the first Home PC to have ethernet cards installed.
So next time you whine about apple being different and bucking the standards just remember It was the bucking that created innovation
Looks like the metal contacts are the same for mini and micro sim ... if that is the case:
http://www.sizlopedia.com/2010/04/19/convert-micro-sim-mini-sim-iphone-ipad/
http://www.sizlopedia.com/2010/04/19/convert-micro-sim-mini-sim-iphone-ipad/