Niether are funny. But MS's speak more to the current economic situation while Apple is still playing the "i'm a fat business guy" stereotype game.
Meh...its only ads at the end of the day.
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Microsoft Alters "Laptop Hunters" Ads in Wake of Apple Price Cuts
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Niether are funny. But MS's speak more to the current economic situation while Apple is still playing the "i'm a fat business guy" stereotype game.
Meh...its only ads at the end of the day.
The stupid thing about these ads is , if some one says
" if you find a laptop under $1700 or what ever number it is"
I sure would spend the full 1699.99 and not $1000 on a laptop.
I wouldnt walk out with a sub $1000.00 POS
They should do the next one, find a laptop under $3000 and it's yours
and they walk out with a $300 netbookbut that would be funny though
If they gave me $3000 and told me to get a PC I could probably buy 5 PC's, then trade them on craigslist for a used Mac.
You just invalidated your own argument
The fact that you've "... built and maintained..." eliminates the concept of 'consumer,' which the Laptop Hunters ads were targeting.
Again you invalidated your argument by the statement, "... I was able to fix them myself." The average consumer does not have this ability. With Applecare, there is no added cost for maintenance during the 3-year warranty period, and in most cases you don't have to "send it away to be fixed." All you have to do is take it to your local Apple Store, assuming they're unable to repair it online or over the phone. In most cases, these repairs are completed within one day and if the machine is at all usable and they need to order a part, they'll let you keep the machine until the replacement part is delivered, at which point they'll perform the repair while you wait in many cases.
But worst of all are the anti-Apple Zealots who go out of their way to make the absolute worst out of anything said about Apple. 'Fanboy' alone is an insult since an Apple user is a fan due to their experience with the product, not on any so-called 'kool-aid' those same Zealots like to proclaim.
The fact that you've "... built and maintained..." eliminates the concept of 'consumer,' which the Laptop Hunters ads were targeting.
Again you invalidated your argument by the statement, "... I was able to fix them myself." The average consumer does not have this ability. With Applecare, there is no added cost for maintenance during the 3-year warranty period, and in most cases you don't have to "send it away to be fixed." All you have to do is take it to your local Apple Store, assuming they're unable to repair it online or over the phone. In most cases, these repairs are completed within one day and if the machine is at all usable and they need to order a part, they'll let you keep the machine until the replacement part is delivered, at which point they'll perform the repair while you wait in many cases.
But worst of all are the anti-Apple Zealots who go out of their way to make the absolute worst out of anything said about Apple. 'Fanboy' alone is an insult since an Apple user is a fan due to their experience with the product, not on any so-called 'kool-aid' those same Zealots like to proclaim.
LOL you would think with all that matketshare people keep talking about, they would have 10 times Apple revenues and profits.
We need a follow-on to the laptop hunter ads; where our enterprising family returns home, fires up the internet and subsequently gets their Windows laptop hacked opening a PDF document.
Mac Laptop Hunter Ad
I'd like to see a "Mac Laptop Hunter" ad.
Something like "I'm looking for a machine that is the best value for my money"
Show the person looking at PC's and saying something about how cheap it's made, plastic, lack of X items, etc.
Show the person at an Apple store going, "That's what I was looking for, a 'wowness' factor on top of usefulness/productivity. It has an illuminated keyboard, digital optical out, IR remote ready? That's slick. This thing feels solid. No cd-tray to break? Nice feature. I like the ports, the way they are arranged, etc. Sure this is more money but the quality of the parts seems higher. Oh, it's not as susceptible to viruses and spyware? That's a bonus. Comes with a Multimedia program like Media Center? Now that's what I'm talking about!"
You get the idea. It's just all about knowing what you are buying, hence why I switched in 2006 to Apple laptops.
I'd like to see a "Mac Laptop Hunter" ad.
Something like "I'm looking for a machine that is the best value for my money"
Show the person looking at PC's and saying something about how cheap it's made, plastic, lack of X items, etc.
Show the person at an Apple store going, "That's what I was looking for, a 'wowness' factor on top of usefulness/productivity. It has an illuminated keyboard, digital optical out, IR remote ready? That's slick. This thing feels solid. No cd-tray to break? Nice feature. I like the ports, the way they are arranged, etc. Sure this is more money but the quality of the parts seems higher. Oh, it's not as susceptible to viruses and spyware? That's a bonus. Comes with a Multimedia program like Media Center? Now that's what I'm talking about!"
You get the idea. It's just all about knowing what you are buying, hence why I switched in 2006 to Apple laptops.
So what happens if you connect a retail OS X 10.4 or 10.5 directly to the internet? Or right, nothing bad
What happens if you connect a Windows XP SP2/3, Vista or 7 machine? Oh right, nothing bad.
I apologise to the forum for getting involved in another pointless vs. fight, but I had to point out some real blatant FUD.
What apple price cuts? Don't remember seeing those. I've keep one eye on Macs since selling my Macbook nearly two years ago and buying an Acer. I've actually been pretty happy with the Acer (cost me $320 vs the $1200 for the Apple) and the Acer performed as well so MS certainly sounds right to my ears. I could see paying a bit more for the Mac, but not the premium they currently charge.
YOu don't know Microsoft didn't do it for the sake of humanity, that's just how nice they are.
What I discovered through personal experience as a consultant was that nearly every similar problem you describe was due to trying to use Microsoft's shortcuts and procedures to do something in OS X. Rather than trying to learn how to use OS X, my guess is that you're going out of your way to find out where OS X is different.
The Safari issue is essentially a non-issue for most users. Yes, I experienced the occasional crash myself... maybe once a week, and that was due to running too many open windows, heavy flash content and other active content all trying to run simultaneously. I went so far as to install a plugin called "Click to Flash" and eliminated most of the crashes and almost all of the CPU saturation I used to experience due to (intentionally or accidentally) mis-formed Flash content.
If you have Spotlight set to catalogue any new drive when it's connected, it's no wonder your CPU suddenly gets saturated, you've just introduced a new drive that's already loaded with files and applications. Unless you set it to a lower priority, it's going to do what you complain of.
Essentially, despite your being a 'Geek' and a techie, your misconfiguration is at least a part of your problem. It sounds to me like you haven't done your research, despite your comments about 'known issues.' I, for one, haven't experienced any of that. Then again, I've been using Apples for 30 years and Windows for 12...not counting when I had to use Windows at work and teach my co-workers how to use Drag & Drop for the first time.
No you're wrong. The "Allow or Deny" ad was hysterically funny when it came out. I work in an all windows shop, and when that ad came out everyone thought it was funny, not because it was literally true, but because it spoke to how you FELT when used Vista.
I helped my wife's friend get her brand new laptop running Vista SP2 running yesterday. I saw more "allow or deny" message boxes than I could shake a stick at. Some of them popped BEHIND what I was doing, so I didn't see them there immediately. Some of the boxes read as if they weren't sure that I had initiated the action. I double clicked on the icon on the desktop, and that is not enough for Vista to decide whether or not I had initiated the action.
That's dysfunctional. And it makes the "security guy" ad really funny; in the same way Dilbert is. It isn't that every large company has an Mordak: "The Preventer of Information Services", but most large companies are dysfunctional enough that it sure can feel that way sometimes.
You have missed the point. How is a Adobe security hole (something that they are good at with not just MS operating systems http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...1&q=flash+os+x+security+vulnerability&spell=1 ) going to cause my machine to be exploited by just connecting it to the net?
A similar "consumer education" shortfall exists with digital cameras.
The defacto consumer measuring stick is "Megapixels", which totally ignores the contribution of the actual sensor size. There's a full order of magnitude improvement of sensor area when one goes from a common 1/2.7" sensor sized P&S camera to a consumer ("APS-C") dSLR.
Golly gee.
The 13" is smaller/lighter than the 17". The 2lb weight difference might not necessarily seem like a lot, but it depends on your tolerance for carrying gear, plus it may also depend on where you're going. For example, consider what 2lbs difference is as a percentage for each of the following. The local flight to the out-islands in the Cayman Islands has a 50lb checked +8lb carry-on weight limit. The local flight to the out-islands from Tahiti has a 44lb total baggage weight limit. The local bush plane flight in Tanzania has a total baggage weight limit of 15kg (33lbs). The standard max tourist pack weight for a porter on the Inca Trail is 20lbs.
So if you don't downsize your gear, what gear are you going to leave behind?
Agreed. The general message being sent with the Apple ads is essentially: "Aren't you sick & tired of beating your head against the wall?"
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I didn't find it funny...seeing you can turn the UAC off completely. Regardless, Apple should get its last Vista jolly's in (even if they were way off base).....Windows 7 is a lovely OS (been on the beta/RC since March).
I won't comment too much on the MAC vs PC argument... frankly, it's getting tiresome.
I use a Mac because I want to, I need to, and I can afford to. I choose macs (and pay the extra money) because I think the OS, hardware and customer service is better, and that's all that matters. ¿Do I wish macs were less expensive? of course!, but not if that would hinder the quality in any way.
AND if someone chooses a PC, that doesn't necessarily make her/him a moron.
Anyway... about the ad itself, I DO have a thought on Lauren: she's gonna be one hot lawyer!
cheers to all!
I use a Mac because I want to, I need to, and I can afford to. I choose macs (and pay the extra money) because I think the OS, hardware and customer service is better, and that's all that matters. ¿Do I wish macs were less expensive? of course!, but not if that would hinder the quality in any way.
AND if someone chooses a PC, that doesn't necessarily make her/him a moron.
Anyway... about the ad itself, I DO have a thought on Lauren: she's gonna be one hot lawyer!
cheers to all!
Haha yes... PC-Guy in that very ad said you could turn it off in the same sentence he admitted that would totally defeat it's purpose! Oh the irony.
Look again. The second article I linked was dated 15 July, 2009, not 2008. I did read those pages and acknowledge that the majority of them are less than 1 year old. This also means that the Apple commercials were quite accurate when they described Windows as being full of problems, which was the point I was making.
In corporate-speak, any amount of profit less than the previous period is considered a 'loss.' They still made a profit, I don't deny that, but they made significantly LESS profit than they did same-time-last-year. Apple, on the other hand, saw a significant growth in profits.
If you polled 100 windows users, I bet less than 10 could tell you how to turn off UAC. And those 10 only know because they got desperate enough to go search it down on the internet.
The point isn't that it can be turned off, the point is that Windows Vista shipped in such an obviously dysfunctional default state to begin with.
I mean, if I double click on a icon on the desktop, and windows can't decide if I initiated the action, how does popping another dialog box _after I probably already left my computer to get a coffee_ increase the likelyhood of an accurate answer to that question?
The whole feature is idiotic- and it DOES make those ads funny, but I guess that's mostly because I would rather laugh than cry.
Windows 7 is fine. I've been using the RC for a while now. But it feels more like "Snow Vista" than anything. I see very few must have features, it just doesn't s*ck like Vista did. Microsoft needs to lower the price.
To me it's this simple: when I was a PC user, I was constantly dealing with my computer to get my tasks done. Now that I've been using a mac for three years, I enjoy accomplishing my computer-related tasks.
If this were the only difference (and it surely isn't), this alone would be worth any price difference to me. If you use a computer for the sake of using a computer, then I can't speak for you as a buyer; but if you use your computer as a tool to accomplish other tasks on a daily basis, then I would point you to a mac nine times out of ten.
Yes, I'm about to bring in my Macbook to swap out the CD drive. It's the first major problem I've had in three years of heavy and semiprofessional use (i.e., using my computer as a tool for revenue) and I'm almost 100% fine with it because I know Apple won't give me and trouble in the process. When my HP bit the dust after a couple years, I spent weeks trying to figure out what was wrong with it and at the end of the day I would have been better off calling my grandmother than some bullsh*t excuse for tech support.
Fanboy? Absolutely not... I have evaluated Apple to be the best company for my computing and mobile needs, but if they drop the ball I'll be gone by the next time I purchase a device. I sincerely doubt that will happen.
Ultimately, I am willing to spend the necessary money on a Mac because of the the sense of security, integration (with other Apple products), and streamlined user experience that accompany it.
If this were the only difference (and it surely isn't), this alone would be worth any price difference to me. If you use a computer for the sake of using a computer, then I can't speak for you as a buyer; but if you use your computer as a tool to accomplish other tasks on a daily basis, then I would point you to a mac nine times out of ten.
Yes, I'm about to bring in my Macbook to swap out the CD drive. It's the first major problem I've had in three years of heavy and semiprofessional use (i.e., using my computer as a tool for revenue) and I'm almost 100% fine with it because I know Apple won't give me and trouble in the process. When my HP bit the dust after a couple years, I spent weeks trying to figure out what was wrong with it and at the end of the day I would have been better off calling my grandmother than some bullsh*t excuse for tech support.
Fanboy? Absolutely not... I have evaluated Apple to be the best company for my computing and mobile needs, but if they drop the ball I'll be gone by the next time I purchase a device. I sincerely doubt that will happen.
Ultimately, I am willing to spend the necessary money on a Mac because of the the sense of security, integration (with other Apple products), and streamlined user experience that accompany it.
Learn to read fella. Right at the top of the second link..
Now, it seems I once again have to repeat my point that if you follow back the articles to where they are getting their information from. They are all referencing pre SP2 versions of XP being open to attack from the Internet with no user intervention.
Your second point (once again). You claimed Microsoft made a loss. I used pesky facts to show you were talking nonsense, and now you are playing the 'oh this is what I actually meant' game when you are found out on the internets.
To me it's this simple: when I was a PC user, I was constantly dealing with my computer to get my tasks done. Now that I've been using a mac for three years, I enjoy accomplishing my computer-related tasks.
If this were the only difference (and it surely isn't), this alone would be worth any price difference to me. If you use a computer for the sake of using a computer, then I can't speak for you as a buyer; but if you use your computer as a tool to accomplish other tasks on a daily basis, then I would point you to a mac nine times out of ten.
Yes, I'm about to bring in my Macbook to swap out the CD drive. It's the first major problem I've had in three years of heavy and semiprofessional use (i.e., using my computer as a tool for revenue) and I'm almost 100% fine with it because I know Apple won't give me and trouble in the process. When my HP bit the dust after a couple years, I spent weeks trying to figure out what was wrong with it and at the end of the day I would have been better off calling my grandmother than some bullsh*t excuse for tech support.
Fanboy? Absolutely not... I have evaluated Apple to be the best company for my computing and mobile needs, but if they drop the ball I'll be gone by the next time I purchase a device. I sincerely doubt that will happen.
Ultimately, I am willing to spend the necessary money on a Mac because of the the sense of security, integration (with other Apple products), and streamlined user experience that accompany it.
Well put. Your candour is appreciated. You'll find there are a lot of people like you - not "fanboys", but rather, people sticking with Apple because they consistently provide the best experience, and anticipating them to continue.