What about Sony?
Where does Sony weigh in on this? They tend to be a heavyweight on things like this.
Where does Sony weigh in on this? They tend to be a heavyweight on things like this.
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I agree. Most PCs are coming with firewire/i.link/dv/IEEE 1394 anyway due to a lot of digital camcorders requiring it. It is merely apple trying to appeal to those with older PCs that don't have firewire and don't have the right operating system to run an iPod, ah, I sense a flaw in that. It does still apply to people with cheap PCs running Windows XP though, it's just selling out in order to get those consumers to go for an iPod above anything else.redAPPLE said:
I personally though would like to revive the term "Blu-perdrive", the term coined when Apple announced their support for Blu-Ray. It's yet another argument for BD to win out overall.
nuckinfutz said:
Wrong! Where are you getting your "facts"? PS3 supports 480i, which means it is playable on standard NTSC SD TVs.
Yes, it's fully backwards compatable. Microsoft have really goofed with the XBOX 360 only being DVD. They have also recently announced a delay, (in Europe, not sure about elsewhere), so they will not get that much of a headstart over the PS3 too.ZorPrime said:Wrong! Where are you getting your "facts"? PS3 supports 480i, which means it is playable on standard NTSC SD TVs.
I can see Sony really pushing the PS3 in order to get Blu-Ray to win out. If you get millions who already have something that will play the new format and others that are getting computers with the drives built in, you are halfway to winning I feel.
You are joking aren't you? Sony were the main founders of Blu-Ray, (offically with Philips, but we know that Sony was the senior partner this time).schatten said:
schatten said:
Dude, they're still sulking over the Betamax thing. Ken Kutaragi is still in therapy after sharing the stage with Jobs and relalizing the days of the Walkman have been all but slaughtered by the iPod.
Steamboatwillie said:
Never had a better VCR than JVC, and Phillips came up with the CD didn´t they?
ZorPrime said:Wrong! Where are you getting your "facts"? PS3 supports 480i, which means it is playable on standard NTSC SD TVs.
You misunderstood his post. The copy protection on forthcoming HD content will only allow content to be played in HD if the TV/Monitor the player is attached is HDCP compliant (which means HDMI or DVI w/HDCP). If yer HDTV is not HDCP compliant (which very few HDTVs, and no computer monitors, being sold today are) then the content will only be played back in SD.
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yoak said:Never had a better VCR than JVC, and Phillips came up with the CD didn´t they?
philips still is crap. even down to their light bulbs (which last half as long as what it says on the box) n e v e r b u y p h i l i p s. e v a r!
I agree that Philips are crap. Their menu systems make little to no sense most of the time. Remember though that the CD was another fine example of Philips-Sony working together. The last time they got something right, technically and commercially, hopefully this time will be another.obeygiant said:
steve_hill4 said:
Of course they're crap. They have almost zero competition at home... go to the Netherlands and try to find some audio components made by someone else!
obeygiant said:
That's some nice FUD you've got going there!
Every new disc-based technology has started off in a carrier. The first server Macs with CD's had to hold them in a carrier. The Sawtooth Mac sitting beside me right now has a special DVD-"tray" to eliminate the need for a carrier, but it still can still accept a DVD carrier. As tech progresses, the ability to hold discs without carriers always follows.
Don't worry, you'll get your "dohickyless" computer.
As for Apple's position, I can definitely see why they went Blu-Ray. Because of Pixar -- and Apple being the "apple" of the entertainment industry's eye, they want to play nice with them, and they are backing Blu-Ray.
It still seems that the major studios are drifting over to Blu-Ray. Some of the big name studios may be siding with HD-DVD, but when you consider the big films that those studios will be releasing, Blu-Ray has a better back catalogue. Fox are on their side and I already know that they have been working on the HD releases of Star Wars. So that's another few million going to Blu-Ray for one reason alone.
network23 said:
Too be fair the first gen of the BR disk did have a cart. That was because they hadn't designed the disk yet to include a scratch resistant resin\cover. A lot has changed since then. Specs on both BR and HD-DVD have changed in the last year. Anyone who is basing their comparison's on facts they picked up over a year ago are being foolish.
the way i sees it...
consumers will just continue to buy DVDs for a long time. look at superdisc and dvdaudio vs CD. cds win because its 'good enough' and you can rip them to your itunes.
same thing will happen with blue-ray and hd-dvd. sure there will be purists who buy the latest and spend the most, but trust me on this, the winner will be plain old DVD for a long time to come. its 'good enough' for most people. you can watch them on your computer, even rip them and store them on a hard drive if you are so inclined. why would anyone give that up.
consumers will just continue to buy DVDs for a long time. look at superdisc and dvdaudio vs CD. cds win because its 'good enough' and you can rip them to your itunes.
same thing will happen with blue-ray and hd-dvd. sure there will be purists who buy the latest and spend the most, but trust me on this, the winner will be plain old DVD for a long time to come. its 'good enough' for most people. you can watch them on your computer, even rip them and store them on a hard drive if you are so inclined. why would anyone give that up.
Tommyg117 said:
No. Because anyone sane realizes that NO ONE is forcing you to upgrade. I know more then a few people still on VHS. They will upgrade with DVD burners become commonplace. And lo and behold their collections are still up and running. The successor to the DVD will be backwards compatible. Period. End of discussion. Putting a red laser next to a blue one is trivial and will happen.
Once again no one is forcing you to upgrade. You don't want HD content don't buy the player and the disks. It's that simple. I own very close to 600 DVD's now (When you count TV series its OVER that.) and I have no plans on upgrading my entire collection. I will however upgrade specific movies. Apollo 13, Alien series, Star Trek, Star Wars, Jaws, Indiana Jones, CSI, the bond series, the new Battlestar Galactica, Stargate SG-1, and of course the Lord of the Rings...there are others but I'm going to be picky. So please. It's not like you don't have a choice in all of this. Tech progresses. No one is forcing you to progress with it.
mania said:
For a while yes. Once TV's start switching over to HD watch HD content take off. watching DVD content on my 46" widescreen TV is OK....just OK....I hooked up my computer the other day to the HDMI port and tried some H.264 content on the thing through Quicktime....Yah....*drools*...a LOT.
Fabio_gsilva said:
I don't think so. The difference this time around is that Sony owns a ton of content. Ever hear of Sony Studios or Columbia Pictures? During the Beta v VHS war Sony had marginal access to content. That has changed. Even though Sony lost the consumer market, Sony Beta won the professional broadcast market. I don't think history will repeat itself, as Sony most likely has learned from the last format war.