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Originally posted by Abstract
If they're launching this music service by next week, then Apple and iTMS is focked. The words "Integrated into our software" from Microsoft simply means, "We'll pull any scandalous move we can make in order to make sure that you use our music service by default. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

The EU has already said this music service strengthens their case against Microsoft - not that it needed it. They could force Microsoft to either drop WMP bundling, or bundle Real and QuickTime (including AAC support?) as well.
 
Cost

Not that cost matters to much... but according to OS X Calculator, .99 euros is about 111 cents (not 99!)
 
the pic you posted is the less similar one - this pic is remarkably similar to itunes.

Hi there don't worry about media center or media jukebox or whatever they call it. It can look like iTunes as much as it wants to - i guess that is a skin for it anyway. Have you ever try to use this app? If not let me tell you. While I had a PC (just a few months ago I still had one) I was using Musicmatch Jukebox which is a decent package but does not come close to iTunes. Anyway Musicmatch had the weird tendency to be extremely unstable in any first major new release so I got sick and started looking on something else and I (unfortunatelly) stepped on that piece of work which was then called media jukebox i think. Let me tell you it is the most bloated most complicated and hard to use music management software I have ever used. No matter how much it tries to look like iTunes it will never make it..... I switched back to music match like the next day. And now i am in Itunesheaven.
 
Originally posted by merges
Oh yeah, of course, you know, never mind that Europe provides Apple with a significant chunk of 50 freakin' percent of its revenue from outside the U.S....

You know, it's not at all an important market... No one in Europe is wealthy enough to afford a Mac, no one in Europe works in design, film, music, education, or any of Apple's other areas of strength... Nah, Apple doesn't give a sh*t about Europe.

What are you smokin', bud?

i think you guys dont unserstand the US is bigger than europe. the US=40% of the music purshaing world. it is understandable why they started off there. hopefully they will spread to other countries.

still you dont understand that MS is europe may have to unbundle WMP from the OS is the EU has anything to do with it. the EU has already sent 'threat'....or advice to MS to do so. This will make a real level playing field for the iTMS which is fair.
 
Originally posted by abdul
the US=40% of the music purshaing world. it is understandable why they started off there

Besides the fact that I am not interested in on-line music stores, I do not have a problem at all with Apple priorizing US in the calendar. The iTMS is not very old after all.

What I have problems with is when Apple decides to completely abandon other territories besides US (and well, to a certain extent, Japan). Yes, I'll bring it up again. iPhoto prof. printing is now, how old? 2 years? Some people said it is hard for such a thing to bring on to Europe's heterogeny. I am sorry but I do not buy that. Just what do the guys at Apple Spain do on their day by day job besides touching their noses? Why there must be a common initiative for such a simple thing as prof. photo printing when there are so many traditional brands everywhere doing just that. Besides, if there really is a need to do it all at once, people such as Kodak or others at every corner in every country here. They'll be bringing the iTMS 6 months later than the US and you tell me getting prof. printing is quite harder than dealing with the particularities oflocal divisions of all those multinational record companies? I do not buy that, at all?

Besides, is there any slim long-term plan to push Sherlock in any of these countries, now that it is 1 year old in the US? It is not that Apple is trying, at least it has made no announcement in that aspect. Not even said "we are working on it". And again. The argument that Europe's too much of a puzzle to push it here, why local Apple divisions do not have the independence so that Apple Spain can partner with 5 of the 100 companies that provide information services? Why should Apple's negotiations with a german information service about movie theaters influence how and when is Apple bringing that service to Spain.

We had Spanish Text-to-Speech in system 8, at least (the first v. of Mac OS I saw). Why is it so long since Mac OS X 10.0.0 and such an oooold technology it is not in there yet?

How old is Ink? Well, any sign we are getting non-English recognition dictionaries for Inkwell in 10.3? Let the bets run.

It is not so much about understandable and acceptable delays.

When there is not interest, there is not interest. And that is all the explanation that there is behind Apple's stance about Europe.
 
Besides, in a completely off-topic matter, WMP is going nowhere the same as QuickTime could not possibly be going out of Mac OS, whatever the law says. It is an API, not an application, and the OS depends on it. I do see the possibility of crippling its appearance (such as removing links to MS on-line business and the like), but it is foolish to expect a Windows OS without imaging, sound and motion video services.
 
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