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Microsoft Announces 2nd Generation Zune Music Player
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I have no clue, I don't own one, since I can't use it with my Mac
Ok, I have no evidence to show otherwise, so i believe your statement, now
how about
cover flow for 5/5.5G
google map for iPT?
well, Gizmodo has a different view.
not to mention engadget said itself that they need a hands-on to make judgement.
PS. I remembered several month ago, many ppl here bashing engadget for its description of apple. just so you know what kind of a source you are quoting.
lol, lame excuse, uneducated statement, I guess you never heard about safari crashes on iPhone, iPod Touch, you never heard about iPod Touch's firmware update cause a pretty new, non hacked device to reset. you never heard about OSX's kernal panic, you never heard about a game that can run on windows without crash (which probably are 99% of them), and all other companies can make good apps for windows (10,000+ of them and countless freeware writers), just apple can't? lol, that tell you right there how lame apple's software developers are.
You want to make a good statement? then get real.
It's definitely nicer than the classic's screen. But it doesn't work with OSX so that kind puts the nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned, not to mention xfiftyfour said she'd leave me if I bought a Zune...soooooooo. But I'd definitely say that from a features+hardware perspective, the Zune is extremely attractive, too bad the software blows.
I think the Windows market pretty much makes the Mac market look like chump change... Why code for ~ 5% of the market?
Much smarter to try to lure the other 95% of the market away from iTunes on Windows which is SLOW.
Especially when ms know that Apple uses would probably keep with their iPods, making the potential market even smaller.
Economics.
I agree with that, waiting for iTunes to muck around, especially when accessing the iTMS, is terrible. I use it on 3 different machines, 2 PowerPC g4 800 Quicksilvers and one Dell C2D with XP, all slow, slow, slow.
Maybe when I make the Mac Intel jump it will be better.
Yes music. I dont even like musicals! Anyway, .mac is a paid for web based service, which has zero viral social networking features.
Great for what it does (well kind of), but it isnt the facebook (now Zune Social) killer apple 'should' IMO make.
Zune 2: Because a journey to version 3.0 requires versions 1 and 2 to be created first.
It looks ok, as an image on a web site. I've heard they don't feel very solid, though, and "squirting" will have no value at all until they are ubiquitous enough that you can find two Zunes in the same room.
But MS usually needs to get to version three before a product is a threat to the market. And this is an improvement over the first model. One can only assume that the next one will be a similar, if not drastic, improvement. Apple would be wise to send some 32GB flash devices out the door as soon as possible, and drop the prices on the some (if not all) models by $25 in about four months.
It looks ok, as an image on a web site. I've heard they don't feel very solid, though, and "squirting" will have no value at all until they are ubiquitous enough that you can find two Zunes in the same room.
But MS usually needs to get to version three before a product is a threat to the market. And this is an improvement over the first model. One can only assume that the next one will be a similar, if not drastic, improvement. Apple would be wise to send some 32GB flash devices out the door as soon as possible, and drop the prices on the some (if not all) models by $25 in about four months.
Wasn't the store also called "Urge" before MTV pulled the plug? (Kids: Cover your eyes) Microsoft: I have the "Urge" to "Squirt". To think their marketing department got a college education... Boggles my mind.
I wouldn't expect a 32gb flash player in less than 9 months to a year, honestly.
Why I mentioned buying some OS X media player from some company dying because there's a first-party, free alternative. Little work to make it sync with Zune. Not to make money, sorry didn't clarify. But to invade the #1 media player maker -- by a country mile, ten country miles -- on its home turf. Good press: stealing Mac people away from iPod with Zune.
But, frankly, there are probably two good reasons they don't support OS X: a) despite the potential for cool PR, they don't think enough Mac people will defect from iTunes/iPod but stay with OS X to make a blip on the marketing radar; b) Zune probably uses a bunch of XP/Vista core technologies -- like, what? ActiveSync, SuperDuperMicrosoftMediaClacker, whatever -- to integrate with media management software on Windows. Not because it *has* to but because it's already there, fully functional, maintained and supported by the OS group, and Zune software integration developers can skip reinventing the wheel at considerably time and expense.
Like a lot of youngsters today, they *graduated college*; nobody said anything about them *getting a college education*.
Reminds me of marketing the Chevy Nova in Latin American countries. No va. Some days you just go blind, I think.
its at a completely different price point than the touch... there can be no comparison
scroll wheel patent
The 'squarical" with a hidden centre button is not the same as a round pad with a non-hidden centre button??
The function is identical, only the shape is slightly different. Does this mean I can make an oval shaped scroll-wheel and get away with it?
Also recently, the new Bang & Olafsen fashion phone uses as it's main navigation tool ... a metal version of the scroll wheel. Again, the function is identical, but it's cosmetically (slightly) different. This same metal version has been seen on some Sony stuff recently also.
What's the point of having a patent on the thing and why did they go to all the trouble they did if it's okay to make such slight cosmetic changes and get away with it being a different product? I thought patents were supposed to be about function, not form.
This has never made sense to me, anyone got any idea how this can be so?
I have always found this curious in that so much effort and money was spent on Apple "locking up" the scroll-wheel patent, yet it seems to be imitated and ripped off everywhere.
The 'squarical" with a hidden centre button is not the same as a round pad with a non-hidden centre button??
The function is identical, only the shape is slightly different. Does this mean I can make an oval shaped scroll-wheel and get away with it?Also recently, the new Bang & Olafsen fashion phone uses as it's main navigation tool ... a metal version of the scroll wheel.
Again, the function is identical, but it's cosmetically (slightly) different. This same metal version has been seen on some Sony stuff recently also. What's the point of having a patent on the thing and why did they go to all the trouble they did if it's okay to make such slight cosmetic changes and get away with it being a different product? I thought patents were supposed to be about function, not form.
This has never made sense to me, anyone got any idea how this can be so?
LOL! ...
Steve should pay me a commission for all the converts I've made. And now another notch - keeping fan boys in line. You just keep drinking that kool aid, babe.
Does anyone else think that the first Zune looked a lot better then this thing? Just going on aesthetics I would say the first generation clearly looked better then this thing with it's awkwardly proportioned pad. I guess this product was designed for the visually impaired as it doesn't look very good and it has some huge menu lettering that a nearly blind person might be able to make out.
With the classic, they beat the screen size, but you get HALF the drive space.
With the nano, for the same price you get same capacity but smaller screen. I'll bet it's a bigger form factor as well. Is there ANY advantage to the flash zune, I don't see any?
Wrong. Price point is not a necessary condition for comparison. Features are. If a lot of the match up, there is no reason you can't compare. And you bet your behind people will be comparing them and the Zune will be winning in many cases.
I remember the superfluous "i" getting attached to all kinds of things around 1999-2000, but more than that, I remember that every piece of consumer electronics, and even some non-electronics, like, say, staplers, suddenly came in a fruity-coloured clear plastic version. My wife (back in our dating days) had a cordless phone in translucent blue. We used to call it the iPhone.
I must admit, I'm a little bit impressed. The new zunes are much much less complet crap compared to the first generation ones.
+1 ... but my grocery budget is safe. I kinda like the dark reddish one.
That whole 'social' tag is so lame.
What?
What do they mean "Supports h.264 and MPEG4 video"
The old one did that too, the Zune software just had to transcode it to .wmv or .avi (can't remember). The unit itself only plays the Windows video format....
What do they mean "Supports h.264 and MPEG4 video"
The old one did that too, the Zune software just had to transcode it to .wmv or .avi (can't remember). The unit itself only plays the Windows video format....
LOL! ...
Steve should pay me a commission for all the converts I've made. And now another notch - keeping fan boys in line. You just keep drinking that kool aid, babe.
Shouldn't you be working sweetie?