Microsoft stock is flat on their announcement of barely changed crappy surface tablets, while Apple stock dropped 6% or something with their announcement of two new iphones (which would subsequently break sales records by almost double)? The market surely didn't get this one right.
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Microsoft stock is flat on their announcement of barely changed crappy surface tablets, while Apple stock dropped 6% or something with their announcement of two new iphones (which would subsequently break sales records by almost double)? The market surely didn't get this one right.
About damn time, they supported it much longer than they should have due to the failure of its successor (Vista). I have a feeling MS will support 7 for longer than anticipated for the same reason too (8)
Too expensive
The product is too expensive given the fact the platform lacks good application when com paired to iOS and Android. MS should price the RT at or near cost and maybe developer will get the encouragement they need to develop apps as sales of the RT device go up.
The product is too expensive given the fact the platform lacks good application when com paired to iOS and Android. MS should price the RT at or near cost and maybe developer will get the encouragement they need to develop apps as sales of the RT device go up.
Microsoft just doesn't understand that one of the big differences between Windows and Mac is as follows; Every Mac regardless of prices comes with the great iLife package of apps in addition to excellent mail, calendar and contacts apps. You can buy a new Mac and instantly start doing things.
If the Windows Essentials apps (or whatever they're called this year) were as complete and great looking as iPhoto, iTunes, iDVD, Mail, Contacts and Calendar I would be switching back. I prefer Windows 8 (desktop) over Mac but the total software integration of Mac OS and Mac to iPhone just cannot be beat.
This weekend I bought an iPhone 5c. I would have rather had a Windows Phone 8. They have bigger screens and the Metro squares that I hate on the desktop are better to use than those small, and now ugly, iOS icons. But again the Windows phone is not a complete system like an iPhone is.
Microsoft's biggest enemy is Microsoft.
If the Windows Essentials apps (or whatever they're called this year) were as complete and great looking as iPhoto, iTunes, iDVD, Mail, Contacts and Calendar I would be switching back. I prefer Windows 8 (desktop) over Mac but the total software integration of Mac OS and Mac to iPhone just cannot be beat.
This weekend I bought an iPhone 5c. I would have rather had a Windows Phone 8. They have bigger screens and the Metro squares that I hate on the desktop are better to use than those small, and now ugly, iOS icons. But again the Windows phone is not a complete system like an iPhone is.
Microsoft's biggest enemy is Microsoft.
Why is it that people on this forum seem to want to propagate the two tablet OS system?
They could always shift undo levels and layers off to virtual memory. But god...that'd be terrible.
When it comes to certain things, there's no way you can get around the ram issue. By itself, freshly opened, I think Photoshop consumes about 80-200MB of ram. It's not much. Adobe could pop Photoshop as is onto an iPad now.
...but it'd hit a wall very, very quickly. See, there's a reason why PS ends up consuming upwards of 8GB of ram. When you start throwing in 20 levels of undo, adjustment layers, alpha masks, multiple high resolution images, all in a single .psd file. Work in CMYK, and you'll see your ram usage triple due to PS having to keep track of a much larger amount of data at a much finer level of detail.
Yeah, you could say they could make a way to compress layers you're not actively working on, but that'd only make the whole process of editing much, much slower and more cumbersome than it is now. The CPU would still have to uncompress the layer when you make it active, and compress the one you're leaving. But that'd spike CPU usage, and probably end up using more battery far more than having an extra couple GB of ram in there. That'd be a lot of effort on Adobe's part for what's ultimately a negative gain.
Sometimes you just need more ram.
Here's the way I see it. There are a ton, and I mean a TON of drawing apps and photo editors out for the iPad. For a surprising amount of people, it's a major reason why they use one in the first place. Even one of Apple's showcase apps, Paper, is dedicated to drawing.
You could argue that if people are using their iPads to draw now, why do they need more? Simple. Convenience. To emulate pressure, you have to fiddle around with tons of sliders and spend more time to get the same results you'd get just by pressing down a little harder on a Wacom digitizer.
Now Apple should always take battery usage into consideration, but I say if they're gonna do it, don't half ass it. They should go with at least 512 levels of pressure. They should try to make it feel as natural and intuitive as possible while using a minimal amount of battery, but not sacrifice so much it's nearly useless.
The thing with the majority is that they'll use what they've got, and ignore what they don't. Like I know this older lady who has a Galaxy Note 2. She's hardly what I'd call a geek. Doesn't even have a computer at the house. But damn if she doesn't love that stylus. She's drawing pictures, writing notes, doing all kinds of stuff with it.
When I showed her my iPad, the first thing she did was pull out the stylus and attempt to write notes with it. Needless to say, she ended up being rather disappointed when it didn't work, and will probably never buy an iPad because of that.
So what does the majority want? Who knows? What seems like a useless feature to some, might be a killer feature to others. Having a bit of stylus support would, in my opinion, help Apple out far more than hurt them.
Why am I here? I have been on this board much longer than you have been and much more active than you are, I am an Apple fan, but not a fanboy. Microsoft is on top of my S-list, but I am objective enough to give them credit when credit is due.
I am a consultant. I worked at over 18 different clients from 5 different industries. I can tell you I am shocked how much Excel in particular is used; so many of the 'bells and whistles' (Data menu specifically), which I fankly find confusing and clumsy, are used.
It has its flaws especially in an enterprise environment, But it IS used.
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To make a general statement that you cannot do real work on a iPad that's trolling.
I bought a surface. Worst mistake ever! It's basically a dust catcher. In fact I turned it on today and now the wifi card isn't working. This is actually the 2nd one, the first one was a lemon and returned & replaced within the first 30 days. For my experience... its slow. Very slow. And the microsoft store for apps has not changed much since I tried the windows phone several years ago (its now my kitchen calculator). The store is a ghost town with nothing much to download other than xbox compatible games.
I have finally learned my lesson which is to stop straying from apple!
I have finally learned my lesson which is to stop straying from apple!
He said "real performance needs", which isn't exactly wrong. There are still some things the iPad can't do that the Surface Pro would be able to handle with ease.
Come back in 6 months time and re-read my response here:
1) Way too expensive for a "competing" device against the iPad. $449 should've been $229.
2) Nvidia components; it's not gonna be even competitive against the A7X
3) 1080 resolution 16:9 aspect ratio; DOA.
4) Microsoft Surface name - the failure stigma.
5) When the iPad mini 2 w/retina and iPad 5 w/A7X debuts, no one will want to buy a surface 2.
I don't care what you say about the iPad being a toy, a facebook device, whatever you name it - one thing is for sure: the apps that are on the ipad and the hardware itself just blows away everything for the past 4 years.
This surface 2 is just a rehash of the surface 1. If you want to seriously compete, do not name it Microsoft Surface, do not make 16:9, do not market it as an Office device. For f'sake, people want an iPad to NOT DO WORK even though it is fully capable of doing real work.
This is no doubt Steve Ballmer's road map to success. Dump more money into a 2nd generation device when the 1st one is a total failure. Makes logical sense
1) Way too expensive for a "competing" device against the iPad. $449 should've been $229.
2) Nvidia components; it's not gonna be even competitive against the A7X
3) 1080 resolution 16:9 aspect ratio; DOA.
4) Microsoft Surface name - the failure stigma.
5) When the iPad mini 2 w/retina and iPad 5 w/A7X debuts, no one will want to buy a surface 2.
I don't care what you say about the iPad being a toy, a facebook device, whatever you name it - one thing is for sure: the apps that are on the ipad and the hardware itself just blows away everything for the past 4 years.
This surface 2 is just a rehash of the surface 1. If you want to seriously compete, do not name it Microsoft Surface, do not make 16:9, do not market it as an Office device. For f'sake, people want an iPad to NOT DO WORK even though it is fully capable of doing real work.
This is no doubt Steve Ballmer's road map to success. Dump more money into a 2nd generation device when the 1st one is a total failure. Makes logical sense
I bought a surface. Worst mistake ever! It's basically a dust catcher. In fact I turned it on today and now the wifi card isn't working. This is actually the 2nd one, the first one was a lemon and returned & replaced within the first 30 days. For my experience... its slow. Very slow. And the microsoft store for apps has not changed much since I tried the windows phone several years ago (its now my kitchen calculator). The store is a ghost town with nothing much to download other than xbox compatible games.
I have finally learned my lesson which is to stop straying from apple!
We must have vastly different devices. My Surface RT might not have a few games I'd like, but overall it has enough. And that isn't even mentioning the emulators. Oh, there are some apps that I do miss.
Goolgle Currents is one of them, a good Google Drive app is another. Though, to be honest, I can just use Drive on the desktop-class browser that I'm using to type up this very post.
Maybe it's because my app needs are lower, since I'm using this for web surfing, typing up documents, messaging people, checking my email, etc. I can hardly wait for 8.1, the mail app is a lot better in the RTM version from what I've seen. But that doesn't come out until October 18th.
Off the top of my head? Taking photos out in the field with your high end DSLR camera, and editing the RAW files directly off the SD card through Lightroom while sitting in your car.
You just nailed it right on the head. The iPad is a fun device you can do a little work on (for now). The Surface Pro is a tablet you do work on.
It'll never sell as much as the iPad, no. But it's not competing in the same field, either. The RT is, and hey, guess what? The RT sucks. But saying no one wants a Pro because people use iPads a certain way is being very short sighted.
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What is that? Like...a point? It's something people do that can't be done on an ipad. You asked, I told you.
you're almost right though - it's not called niche, it's called amateur work
Microsoft seem to think they are competing in the same field. The bottom line the masses are moving away from windows.