Pick up the free "Public Radio" app and have immediate access to every NPR station in the country (live) as well as on-demand of their major shows.
I'll take that over a crappy FM radio any day on my iPhone.
For touch, yeah... you need wifi.
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Pick up the free "Public Radio" app and have immediate access to every NPR station in the country (live) as well as on-demand of their major shows.
I'll take that over a crappy FM radio any day on my iPhone.
For touch, yeah... you need wifi.
The difference being that Sony actually has to sell their product, as opposed to running as a vanity product whose losses are financed by the other MS products.
*LTD*
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http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/oct07/10-02ZuneNextGenPR.mspx
This radio feature of the Zune HD reminds me of their other "killer" feature, wireless for the original Zune.
Meant about as much as a pair of thermal underwear in Death Valley at high noon.
Will anyone really care about radio this time around? And in the slowly-dying iPod/multimedia player market? It's all about the iPhone paradigm now. Cnvergence of devices. And the iPhone has radio apps out the ass.
Once again, it just aint enough. It's an iPod duplicate that can't duplicate the current key strengths of the iPod, while offering a couple of new things that aren't enough to really distinguish it and turn the tables.
This radio feature of the Zune HD reminds me of their other "killer" feature, wireless for the original Zune.
Meant about as much as a pair of thermal underwear in Death Valley at high noon.
Will anyone really care about radio this time around? And in the slowly-dying iPod/multimedia player market? It's all about the iPhone paradigm now. Cnvergence of devices. And the iPhone has radio apps out the ass.
Once again, it just aint enough. It's an iPod duplicate that can't duplicate the current key strengths of the iPod, while offering a couple of new things that aren't enough to really distinguish it and turn the tables.
Even I have forgotten how many years that iTunes has been out, and still the competition has not been able to come up with anything? Really, the barrier to entry is the lack of innovation of competitors, nothing more. Granted, iTunes is well established now, but it doesn't appear to have all that much impact on video, what with the success of Netflix Watch Now, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon and other venues.
I not a big user of Pandora, but they seemed to have found a niche that the much vaunted subscription model has not. Amazon has an mp3 store, and they are doing well, albeit not as well as iTunes.
Seriously, what's wrong with the competition is lack of imagination.
VenusianSky
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BongoBanger
macrumors 68000
Did you really just compare handhelds to consoles? That's just silly. The Wii dominates for now but will be dead in two years and, frankly, is a vanity purchase that gets used once by fat, lazy people who think Wii Fit works before becoming a dust magnet under the TV. The Xbox 360 actually gets used. MS have already stated that the Xbox 360 is a 10 year project. It remains to see if they will recoup their costs but it wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah? Who by?
And?
And far fewer sales.
You might want to have a look at their financials before coming out with tosh like that.
So, anyway, point is that MS can come form behind, can innovate and can deliver very good products. Do we all get that? Good.
Will the Zune HD beat the iPod Touch in market share? Not a chance. Not going to happen. Snowball in hell, etc. However, it's nice to see a good bit of kit giving a choice to the consumer and that can't be bad, can it?
herbalizer
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I don't own any Micro$oft products, but I do live about five miles from their campus. Makes me feel sick to be so near them. You should see all the butt ugly housing developments that have been built for the tasteless Microsoft goons to buy. No one that works their seems to know anything about aesthetics.
Dumb ass employees = dumb ass products. ***** in = ***** out.
Dumb ass employees = dumb ass products. ***** in = ***** out.
KnightWRX
macrumors Pentium
If you want to play that game, the DS+Wii are about equal with the PS3 + PS2. And there are still new titles being made for the PS2, that is one of the big hurdles to PS3 adoption. The fans just aren't upgrading yet.
Let's not mix generations or mobiles into the picture. MS isn't PWNing anyone in the console arena, they're competing, even though they are trying to use dirty tactics.
HLdan
macrumors 603
It's interesting you'd say that. That's the same question I've always wanted to know about developers that put all their time into developing games and certain for Windows when they could expand to the Macintosh which is a platform that's growing rapidly. Many people say it's just not a priority, they need to put time to a platform that PAYS them.
Well the same can be said for developers being loyal to the iPhone. Right now, that where the money is baby!! It's a waste of time to work on a platform such as the Zune, especially since it has such a losing track record.
bruinsrme
macrumors 604
Sony was expected to take over xbox 360 last Christmas. But yet 360s were tough to come by while stacks of ps3s were common in my area
KnightWRX
macrumors Pentium
Wait a minute there buddy. The PS3 was released November 2006, a full year after the Xbox 360 which was released November 2005.
Now, let's say we're November 2009. The PS3 has had 3 years on the market, the Xbox 360 4. If we take the current number of consoles, the PS3 is at 23M and the Xbox 360 is at 30M. If we divide that by the number of years on the market, Sony has sold 7.3M consoles per year, Microsoft 7.5M.
"Far fewer sales" only if you're a complete Microsoft shill. That seems pretty darn even to me. And all that even though Microsoft is buying exclusive titles and time-based exclusives left and right and Sony isn't even trying.
Again, the PS2 is still sold, new titles are still released and many of the 132M (yes, 132,000,000) units out there aren't being upgraded because of it. If Sony wanted, tomorrow, they'd start purchasing exclusives, they'd have blocked FF13 for the Xbox360 and they'd EOL the PS2 to force people to upgrade. Then the Xbox360 would once again be a distant third. That is why people believe the PS3 is set to over take the Xbox360.
scroto
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After watching this video of the Zune HD in action it looks like the ipod has more than met it's match. Not that it was a great audio player anyway, I'd take a Cowon or Iriver over an Itouch anyday.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/12994/zune_hd_s_hd_tv_out_videoed/index.html
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/12994/zune_hd_s_hd_tv_out_videoed/index.html
Westside guy
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BongoBanger
macrumors 68000
So what? It's still selling generally less units per month than a console that's a year older than it.
http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=11067):
Nice to see the PS2 still selling and I still have mine (in fact I still have my PlayStation). It ain't the PS3 though.
Heh. I suppose!
I am glad for the competition too. Looks like Apple will already be dropping iPod Touch prices in September because of the Zune HD. And the OLED screen will make Apple hurry OLED into their products more too. 🙂
Now honestly though, it looks like Microsoft is actually going to leave the "Marketplace" with the cut off "e". Are they serious? 🙄 I know the UI flips and transitions and all that, but it is much to confusing and cluttered for my taste. Not to mention Microsoft's DRM strategy. 🙄 I'm sure the OLED screen looks nice and all, but I do not like the design, or UI, or DRM strategy, or Zune ecosystem, or lack of Apps, and so on and so on...
This is just Microsoft doing the same crap they have done always. They just keep recycling failures and plugging money in until something gets through. What a waste of a company! 🙄
Now honestly though, it looks like Microsoft is actually going to leave the "Marketplace" with the cut off "e". Are they serious? 🙄 I know the UI flips and transitions and all that, but it is much to confusing and cluttered for my taste. Not to mention Microsoft's DRM strategy. 🙄 I'm sure the OLED screen looks nice and all, but I do not like the design, or UI, or DRM strategy, or Zune ecosystem, or lack of Apps, and so on and so on...
This is just Microsoft doing the same crap they have done always. They just keep recycling failures and plugging money in until something gets through. What a waste of a company! 🙄
KnightWRX
macrumors Pentium
Funny how you quickly deleted my numbers from the quotes showing that they are basically DEAD EVEN. 200,000 units per year is not a big difference. You also failed to basically reply to any other points.
Basically, you're ignoring the facts here, even after they are in your face.
What are the tangible benefits of the OLED screen besides Nerd Porn ?
BongoBanger
macrumors 68000
Uh... I can't delete your comment and it's plainly visible. The link I gave also gives the total sold split by month so they're actually more detailed than your figures anyway.
The facts are:
1) The Xbox 360 was released about a year before the PS3
2) It still generally sells more units per month than the PS3
The rest of your post was conjecture.
Not sure why you're getting so upset about it. It's not really that important and was only quoted to make the point that MS can release successful products outwith their software catalogue.
neiltc13
macrumors 68040
I'd like to know where both of you are getting your numbers from. Figures for most countries are never made public, and we must wait for official word from Sony and Microsoft and that doesn't happen often and it's always completely biased - one of them always talks about consoles "shipped" rather than "sold" for example.
neiltc13
macrumors 68040
I don't understand how this is "stooping" at all - Apple offered developers a pot of cash to come and develop for their platform, how is this any different?
Glideslope
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KnightWRX
macrumors Pentium
I get mine from http://www.vgchartz.com/
The venture capital by outside investors ? How is that Apple money ?
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