Natal was the highlight for me. All we need is pricing and for them to stick to their delivery date promise. Everything else was like being at a mid-level management meeting, without donuts.
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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Officially Opens CES, Briefly Demos Forthcoming HP Slate
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Natal is cool and all, I guess. But I don't play video games. What's in it for me?
I kind of like Bing, and I can completely see how it will integrate with a series of tablet computers. EVEN, an Apple tablet device. I think some things that are sitting quietly, like the Media Center will reSurface, if you know what I mean...
Let's hope future ads don't look anything like the monkey dance.
Let's hope future ads don't look anything like the monkey dance.
They can say it, but I don't think it will. You buy a $3.99 magazine off the rack and it's loaded with millions of dollars worth of ads. Publishers can't turn their backs on that. $3.99 for a digital copy, ad-free? Right
Indeed! 17 seconds. The contentious Apple tablet videos floating around the web have more content and better production quality. And they're most likely fakes!
Looks like someone cobbled HP's together in their lunch hour.
I'm actually a little depressed having watched that... If you take the information on Natal (which was almost all already available, but still spiced up the overall presentation) then there was very close to no actual new innovations that were show off... some talked about, or mentioned, but very little concrete "this is what we've got for you" type product/idea/concept.
I would remind everyone that the has been NO confirmation from Apple itself it is creating such a device. So, let's no bash HP for naming their device what they did. Companies don't name products at the last minute. HP probably had the thought of calling it a slate long before word came that Apple bought the copyrights to iSlate (which could be an effort to commonize the word slate so that Apple's copyright is useless, given everyone is calling it that now)
Plus, it would appear the tech industry is giving the big middle finger to Apple's multi-touch patent. Multi-touch has been around for a long time. Microsoft showed it off with its Surface before we ever heard of the iPhone. So good luck with that Apple.
Otherwise, competition is always good.
It could be the other way around. Or the result of millions in market research to see what people like. Or....
Plus, HP built this thing months ago in order to have it there tonight. The IKEA video only came out this week.
They can say it, but I don't think it will. You buy a $3.99 magazine off the rack and it's loaded with millions of dollars worth of ads. Publishers can't turn their backs on that. $3.99 for a digital copy, ad-free? Right
Oh it'll absolutely still have ads on the tablet (I say absolutely, but who really knows). I imagine it'll be cheaper (close to 50% cheaper compared to buying it from the shelves) but still have ad content - both inline on the columns, etc and even full pages that you have to swipe through as you swipe through magazine/paper.
I don't think the expectation of paying for tv shows and getting commercial free versions is the same when it comes to print being bought on a portable devices.
If he did that, then this keynote MIGHT get interesting
Steve Ballmer Hamster Dance remix =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxoW6XP0c1w
Apple already own the iSlate trademarks.
They can say it, but I don't think it will. You buy a $3.99 magazine off the rack and it's loaded with millions of dollars worth of ads. Publishers can't turn their backs on that. $3.99 for a digital copy, ad-free? Right
I don't imagine myself buying magazines for the iSlate, but I can imagine using it to consume web-based content. Which can drive revenue through ad-only revenue. And now Apple can help serve those ads with their Quattro Wireless acquisition.
I might pick up a subscription to the Times, though. It's newspapers I'm worried about more than magazines.
Can you imagine hacking a digital ad in an eMagazine? Models are already photoshopped, but you could script so many hilarious things!
I am quite surprised he would spend so little demoing the HP Slate. It is as if they product was an afterthought; something put together within a limited amount of time just to say, "Hey look, we have a tablet, too." I was looking forward to seeing what Microsoft would offer in their version of a tablet device.
Wow. Watching that crap really makes you appreciate the production quality and effort that Apple puts into their keynotes.
Ballmer sounded like an idiot. Their demos and explanations were confusing. As others have said, everyone is just waiting for Apple on the 27th so they can see how far behind they are.
Ballmer sounded like an idiot. Their demos and explanations were confusing. As others have said, everyone is just waiting for Apple on the 27th so they can see how far behind they are.
I was interested in the Courier concepts I saw on gizmodo, which was the first time in a while that I've been interested in something coming from Microsoft. So I watched the live keynote. Wow, bad bad bad. Ballmer as the face of Microsoft is embarassing. These guys are businessmen not tech lovers trying to evolve the industry. I could tell Ballmer was nervous when he actually had to interact with HP's slate just to playback a video. The amount of awful that the keynote had made me appreciate Apple and SJ's keynotes more. The comments over at Engadget are so enthusiastic about it I'm stunned and I'm glad to hear some voices of reason here
The hurdle is ---> does a digital ad = a print ad. As of now, no. Could change though. I'm just ready for it to come out. For as skeptical as I am that the thing will be a huge success, part of me is leaning toward getting one if it's close to an iPod touch bc I hardly ever use that anymore and could FleaBay it, but I still want to be able to run App Store apps.
I still have a paper subscription to the Wall Street Journal and read it every day when I eat my grilled cheese sandwich for lunch. Not that I'm stuck in my ways or anything.
That monstrosity doesn't look like my iMac. Maybe the base, a little bit. But not the screen, enclosure, or peripherals. Don't bring Apple down.
Vaporware.
It felt the same. You're bored to death in the beginning and then they show something off they you've never used before.
It was the same fidgety feeling. I would hate to be in the audience.
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The HP slate is going to be terrible if it just runs win 7 with touch overtop. Seriously, you do not want desktop apps on a tablet. You're not gonna run Word and Photoshop on these things. Tablets need app stores for specialty software that makes sense on a device like this. Not scroll bars and double click icons to launch windowed programs. Apple will recognize this because they aren't retarded.
On the other hand, Natal has huge potential if they can remove the brand from just gaming.
The HP slate is going to be terrible if it just runs win 7 with touch overtop. Seriously, you do not want desktop apps on a tablet. You're not gonna run Word and Photoshop on these things. Tablets need app stores for specialty software that makes sense on a device like this. Not scroll bars and double click icons to launch windowed programs. Apple will recognize this because they aren't retarded.
On the other hand, Natal has huge potential if they can remove the brand from just gaming.
I'm just hoping for App Store apps, better web-browsing (tabs, switching windows, etc), and some cool media stuff (magazines, vids, music, etc)... replace my macbook pro with this thing and a mac mini.
I only sub to Rolling Stone but if I got this thing I would probably end up with a couple newspaper subs and a few mags as well, just to justify having it haha
You're def right about print ad not equally digital ad though... you can see that same problem with things like local blackouts on mlb.tv (worried about losing ad revenue) or hesitation to distribute tv shows online (worried that losing cable ads could not be made up by online subscriptions/ads)