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With a web browser, the sky's the limit on content - specialized or otherwise. But no one should expect to edit HD video, write a novel, or conduct intense computing tasks on an iSlate...

Maybe not on-the-go, but if you can dock it and get a keyboard, mouse, and large screen then certainly you could do all that. That's what I'm hoping for - a tablet with a touchscreen keyboard for on-the-go, and a dock to get all the goodies when you're at a desk.
 
I'm not sure it's an illusion. One reason that tablets or slates or whatever you want to call them haven't taken off, in my opinion, is because they run desktop-class OSs. If I wanted a desktop-class OS, wouldn't I use my desktop or carry a 'book? By scaling all that overhead away, Apple has (supposedly) developed a user experience that's in line with the form factor. Instead of trying to shoe-horn an elephant into a suitcase. But I guess we'll see.

This nails my opinion on the matter. I get kinda gobsmacked by the guys in the other tablet threads demanding that any Apple tablet should be running full blown OS X. I can't think of anything more pointless personally.

I'm really down for a tablet device, but unless the UI is tailored to the form factor, it's going to be a huge fail for me. I'm remaining silently optimistic for the end of Jan though.
 
Gruber nailed it:

Gruber is simply exposed as having no knowledge of tablet history, the same as a lot of posters here.

One odd takeaway: what Microsoft once called “tablet PCs”, it now calls “slate PCs”. This strikes me as beyond coincidence regarding the hype from MacRumors’ story that Apple has the trademark and domain name for “iSlate”. I honestly think Microsoft renamed these things on the basis on a rumored name for Apple’s tablet, just to try to **** with them.

Tablets without keyboards have been called slates since at least the mid 90s.

That's why a senior editor called the coming Apple touch tablet a slate, which started all the rumors. It wasn't an official name leak. It's just an old, well known term in the industry.

My development group has used them since 2000, and yes they were called slates, even by the manufacturers. There are tons of Windows CE slates, which is why Apple probably wouldn't want to use the name.
 
Ballmer is the Sith Lord?

You don't know the POWER of the dark side!
 

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Even a 7 or 10" touch would be better than what is being offered so far. My netbook is safe for a couple more weeks.

My thoughts exactly. I have more use for an oversized touch with absolutely no new features than I do with that "slate." Trying to run Windows 7 with my fingers makes no sense.

The bar is set extremely low here. Apple's put this thing off for so long that I really can't imagine them simply making a touch with a 10" screen. Steve is probably laughing his ass off at Ballmer's demo and the so called competition.
 
This is why I really like the Lenovo Hybrid. You don't lose the desktop OS or power in notebook mode. You pop the display off and you're on a touch optimized OS.

I thought the design of the Lenovo Hybrid was really cool but I saw a video and the OS was very very choppy. That's my issue with many of the tablets and high concept PCs being shown off at CES. Their standards aren't very high IMO. I feel like they just want to rush out gimmicky niche products.
 
It's getting really boring that everything MS does is a poor imitation of Apple products.
 
I watched about 5 minutes and had to turn it off. Ballmer is awful, they've got to find a new CEO. No one wants to watch some dumb ass CEO give a talk about crap he doesn't really care about.

SJ shows genuine passion for what Apple makes.
 
I thought the design of the Lenovo Hybrid was really cool but I saw a video and the OS was very very choppy. That's my issue with many of the tablets and high concept PCs being shown off at CES. Their standards aren't very high IMO. I feel like they just want to rush out gimmicky niche products.
The tablet OS is still in the prototype state. I rarely expect to see a 100% finished product ready for sale at CES to be honest. You're still looking at a wait until June.
 
Technical difficulties?? Premature press release?? This is too good.

What kind of 2-bit circus is Microsoft running over there?
 
Eidorian is smart about this stuff. It's sometimes hard to see where the iSlate will fit into the lineup of potential devices I can leave the house with. With the right syncing and maybe cloud-based solutions, I might not have to give it much thought at the time.

Maybe not on-the-go, but if you can dock it and get a keyboard, mouse, and large screen then certainly you could do all that. That's what I'm hoping for - a tablet with a touchscreen keyboard for on-the-go, and a dock to get all the goodies when you're at a desk.
I like this idea, but it's hard for me to get jazzed about it. The Lenovo Hybrid gets to that, but I think it's half a loaf. The whole is actually less than the sum of its parts. My concern would be that unless the dock brought some more processing power (and storage) to the table, why would I want to use a slow(er) ARM-based processor for my computing work? Casual users, sure. And from a "wow" factor standpoint, it's cool and all. Hard to imagine such a thing as an Apple docking station this century. But could happen; we've all seen the patents.

I'm really down for a tablet device, but unless the UI is tailored to the form factor, it's going to be a huge fail for me. I'm remaining silently optimistic for the end of Jan though.
That's where I'm at, too. I can imagine a middle-road between full-blown OSX and iPhone OSX. Maybe some desktop-class apps will be ported to the iSlate? The ones that make sense.
 
Pretty much as I expected. Ballmer knows that Apple's tablet will be the benchmark, possibly creating a whole new mobile computing ecosystem. So Microsoft can't afford to announce something embarrassingly uncompetitive and off-base right before Apple's announcement.

And god, why would anyone want a Clam Computer like the Courier? Too thick, and you don't really have a big screen. You have two small screens.

But anyway, by having a separate Apple event after CES, it polarizes the competition. Some feel the need to announce their products early, to get to market before Apple does. As if that will help any.

Others feel that it's better to wait and copy Apple's design. Clearly, Microsoft is in the latter group. Copying Apple is what they do.

But next year, everybody could very well be in the "wait and see" camp. If tablet computing takes off because of the Apple device, CES 2011 will be all about tablet computing. But it'll all be vaporware because everyone will be forced, again, to wait for Apple to announce their 2011 tablet.

And, since the New Hottest Thing in Computing will be announced outside of CES each year, CES itself will become less relevant. Kind of the way COMDEX died off. You all DO remember COMDEX, don't you? (It was in Vegas too...)
 
im just going to say that i personally think all these tablet computers are going to fail

seriously what the hell do they do and what's the practicality?

does society really need a device inbetween smartphones and laptops

i dont know, i smell failure. apple tv anyone?
 
My development group has used them since 2000, and yes they were called slates, even by the manufacturers. There are tons of Windows CE slates, which is why Apple probably wouldn't want to use the name.

Perhaps, but don't underestimate Apple's propensity to take a commonly used word, add "i" to the front of it, then consider it therefore sufficiently branded and proprietary. (i.e. "phone", which is even more generic than "slate")
 
Gruber is simply exposed as having no knowledge of tablet history, the same as a lot of posters here.



Tablets without keyboards have been called slates since at least the mid 90s.

That's why a senior editor called the coming Apple touch tablet a slate, which started all the rumors. It wasn't an official name leak. It's just an old, well known term in the industry.

My development group has used them since 2000, and yes they were called slates, even by the manufacturers. There are tons of Windows CE slates, which is why Apple probably wouldn't want to use the name.

I don't think that was the point of the DF post. When companies like MS call something by a certain name it usually serves a purpose. MS had pushed the term tablet since the earlier part of the decade. Tonight they were correcting people who called it a tablet. There is an obvious intent from MS to push this term tonight.

Apple has done the same thing by not referring to it as the iPhone but just "iPhone" as if they were humanizing the product. Or the fiasco of whether there was a space between the G and S in the iPhone 3GS.
 
Argh. Microsoft needs to stop letting marketing concerns about branding trump everything else when it comes to the UI. They've got a lot of very intelligent, talented people working at MS - let them do their jobs, Ballmer!
 
LOL, the industry was THAT quick to adopt the term "slate" as the official term for a tablet, based purely on speculation of an unannounced Apple product?? Lmao wow. They clearly keep up with Apple rumor sites just as much as the fanboys.
 
That's just one example. Another could be their HP Slate, which looks like a lot like the rumoured Apple Slate from the IKEA video.

This takes fanboi to a whole new level. Accusing HP of ripping off an Apple product that hasn't even been confirmed. That we know nothing of beyond mockups.

And did it ever occur to you that All in One PCs all tend to look alike because basically they are one big screen?
 
Apple should stay away from tablets...

Kudos to Apple for avoiding a tide of pressure to introduce a netbook type device. There is an "Air", but it is very expensive and targeted for a small group of consumers. Why? Because tablet has a potential to kill Apple' insanely profitable macbook business. Do not take my word for it, just look what PC netbooks did to PC laptop business. Now PC laptops cost a few bucks more than PC netbooks.

Hysteria around tablets is the same type of the trap for Apple. I hope S. Jobs is smart enough to see through this BS. There is no way Apple could make even a 1/4 of what every macbook sale earn. Why would Apple kill its most profitable product line? Anyone?;)
 
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