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I think the surface tablets are actually pretty decent devices... I like both of them the build quality is great and the OS is actually really nice to use. Lacks in apps but that can be solved.
 
They need to drop Windows 8's price to maybe $20-$30 to get people to at least try it. $200 is way to much for an OS now a days when all the competition is pricing there's $20 (OSX) or free in the case of Linux (although its open source so maybe that doesn't count). I know Microsoft is a software company, but still a sale for $30 is better then no sale at $200.
 
'We Built More Devices Than We Could Sell'

Did anyone actually LOL when you read this? I may be a bit frivolous today, but I did. I know it's not good for competition to have a product come out and immedatley have their @$$ handed to them, but I STILL lol'd.
 
I see some cheap surface pad for xmas.

If the drop the price to sub 200, the will sell like hotcakes.

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I think the surface tablets are actually pretty decent devices... I like both of them the build quality is great and the OS is actually really nice to use. Lacks in apps but that can be solved.

just priced too high. They targeted this a replacement for a mac air or something with similar horse power, but in the end comsumers see it as an overpriced tablet.
 
Duh?

I guess you could say Steve Ballmer is no Tim Cook when it comes to understanding inventory.
 
What I would like to see them do is really have some humble pie. Realize that segmenting your market immediately with the RT and Pro version is a stupid idea. While they aren't bad designed machines, they lack a cohesive identity. Thus take the RT's that they have in stock, and pull out the motherboards, replace them with Pro motherboards, batteries and back housing. Basically convert them to Pros. Maybe not full pros, maybe just Surface. But they run the same apps as the pros. Now you have the Surface and Surface Pro but they run the same version of the OS, same applications. One may be slower and less battery life? Ditch the RT completely, it's a dead dog.

Sell the Surface at the same prices as the RT was originally (or is now). And the Pro's for a bit more.

Offer free upgrades to anyone who purchased an RT. Yes it will hurt, but take the write off and be done with it. Make people realize you made a mistake and you're fixing it.

Oh, and drop the price of Windows 8 to $29.99 and it will sell just fine. $200 is stupidly high.
 
Ladies and Gentelman... I give you the man who is driving Microsoft into the ground... AKA Steve Ballmer
 

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Did anyone actually LOL when you read this?

I did. And I agree, Ballmer seems to be a big drag on the company.

I wish they had created a real mass-marketed Surface in more than just name. Their coffee-table Surface was a potential game-changer. Obviously, it was too big and too expensive for the mass market. But I still love the concept of a collaborative computing device. I liked the way it could pull down your smartphone data just by laying the phone on top. Microsoft never found a way to market it properly. Maybe they should have shown people dancing and holding coffee tables that clicked.
 
The World (3rd) now no longer solely relies on legacy apps once populated on Windows desktop. MS arrogantly forms business plan that banks on these plus the ubiquity of its OS, hence the obvious decline. They would have no gut to gut thrir Windows, rebuild from the ground up using Linux or Unix.
They have a huge group of followers of XBox gamers around which thet can build new desktop OS that integrates seamlessly with Linux and OS X. Then copy the Apple model by making hardware, sell OS for less than $100. Then they might see small lights at the end of the tunnel.
Of course XBox will always be big.
 
Steve Ballmer needs to just step down.

Spot on !

I've been saying that for years. Microsoft love them or hate them have very talented people working for them. Steve Ballmer is dragging the company down. Vista, Surface, Windows Phone, Windows 8 have all been released while under his leadership.

This guy is to Microsoft what John Sculley was to Apple. :p
 
While I would still buy an iOS device, I think they make some valid points. I would like to be able to switch to having two apps run side by side at times. Hell, even if it was just two phone apps, that are intended for the small size, running side by side on the tablet. I can't count the number of times I have to switch back and forth between two apps to accomplish a single task. And to make matters worse, the double button click, then find the app and click method is annoyingly time consuming when you just want to go back to the previous app.

The last app is the first one on the left. Pretty easy to find.
 
While I would still buy an iOS device, I think they make some valid points. I would like to be able to switch to having two apps run side by side at times. Hell, even if it was just two phone apps, that are intended for the small size, running side by side on the tablet. I can't count the number of times I have to switch back and forth between two apps to accomplish a single task. And to make matters worse, the double button click, then find the app and click method is annoyingly time consuming when you just want to go back to the previous app.

You could use gestures to help. Swipe 5 fingers up instead of the double press to see all running apps. . Swipe 5 fingers to either side to switch between apps. Close 5 fingers toward each other to go to home screen.
 
There's an easy fix for all of Microsoft's problems:

3) Remove Metro from desktop Windows. Or at least give the option of a FULL Windows Desktop or Metro (not this silly start button that goes to Metro in 8.1). Either way it's on the same core, who cares what the GUI looks like?

In 8.1, on the desktop, Metro can basically be used like OS X Launchpad.
 
There's an easy fix for all of Microsoft's problems:

1) Ditch Windows RT. Immediately. Before more people buy it at a fire sale and expect things for it.
2) Get Haswell-powered Windows 8 tablets out ASAP, at the iPad's price MAX. Doubling the price isn't going to sell them.
3) Remove Metro from desktop Windows. Or at least give the option of a FULL Windows Desktop or Metro (not this silly start button that goes to Metro in 8.1). Either way it's on the same core, who cares what the GUI looks like?

Agree wholeheartedly. 8.1 is, unfortunately, just the second part of the same joke.

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Even dropping the base model to $349 I don't see these things moving. My guess is we will see another HP touchpad fire sale, these things will probably be $99 by Christmas.

And that would be $99 WITH the touchpad :)
 
I think that is an indication about how bad is the public awareness of the surface has now.

Sorry B4U, I'm a little confused. Was your comment related to what I said or who I was replying to? Because if the Surface does run Android then I really feel like a fool right now :eek:
 
Spot on !

I've been saying that for years. Microsoft love them or hate them have very talented people working for them. Steve Ballmer is dragging the company down. Vista, Surface, Windows Phone, Windows 8 have all been released while under his leadership.

This guy is to Microsoft what John Sculley was to Apple. :p

Vista was not when he was CEO, Windows 7 was which is a fantastic OS.
 
"We built more devices than we could sale." Or, stated another way, we couldn't sell the devices we built.
 
While I would still buy an iOS device, I think they make some valid points. I would like to be able to switch to having two apps run side by side at times. Hell, even if it was just two phone apps, that are intended for the small size, running side by side on the tablet. I can't count the number of times I have to switch back and forth between two apps to accomplish a single task. And to make matters worse, the double button click, then find the app and click method is annoyingly time consuming when you just want to go back to the previous app.

If your using an iPad, just use a 4 finger swipe between apps. But it would also be great if they came out with an API that allowed developers to make a portion of their app run in a smaller side view for multitasking. Like a calculator that just slides in from the side.
 
I think the best thing for Apple (and Google) is if Ballmer stays as CEO of Microsoft.

Competition is better for everyone. I would much rather see a healthy Microsoft that competes with Android and iOS, because it makes everybody work harder. When I saw what Microsoft was coming out with I was actually pretty glad because it looked like a decent product. Nothing I'd ever buy, but something good enough to get a decent marketshare. Apparently there's too many people like me who saw it as something they'd never buy, which is too bad.
 
Spot on !

I've been saying that for years. Microsoft love them or hate them have very talented people working for them. Steve Ballmer is dragging the company down. Vista, Surface, Windows Phone, Windows 8 have all been released while under his leadership.

This guy is to Microsoft what John Sculley was to Apple. :p

Microsoft really has fantastic people working for them, but unfortunately their management structure is terrible and products are mismanaged like crazy. I've talked to a number of guys over the years and they all describe a corporate culture that is a complete mess. Incredible products are kept locked away because they can't figure out how to fit them into Microsoft's existing business model. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Bloated ancient ways of doing things are sacred and never modernized.

I say it starts at the top. Bring in a new CEO who can clear out the trash, streamline the whole company, and put the engineers back in charge.
 
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