Microsoft Claim Windows 7 Will Be More Secure Than Linux And Leopard

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  1. PhireWare macrumors newbie

    Dec 31, 2008
    Ok, so look what I found tonight while I was browsing. This ought to be interesting. Wonder what Apple may do....New Apple Commercial?:)

    Found this article here:

    What do you think? Sorry Windows, I use to be a windows fan, then Vista came out and I said, hello Mac OS X Leopard! :) Go Apple! :apple:
  2. SkyBell macrumors 604


    Sep 7, 2006
    Texas, unfortunately.
    Eh...kind of hard to believe. Besides the fact that there are so many more Windows viruses out there than for any other OS, the architecture that Windows uses has been shown to be pretty easy to exploit flaws in...

    But it could be, I'm not an expert on this thing.
  3. flopticalcube macrumors G4


    Sep 7, 2006
    In the velcro closure of America's Hat
    I don't doubt it. Even Vista and XP are secure now. Comes across as a bit of a challenge to hackers, though. Some will undoubtedly try much harder to crack W7 than Leopard or SL.
  4. srl7741 macrumors 68020


    Jan 19, 2008
    In my world
    No deal

    Time will tell, I don't buy it because I know Windows too well to believe that will turn out to be the case.
  5. MacDawg macrumors Core


    Mar 20, 2004
    "Between the Hedges"
    Not everything Microsoft claims is true... just sayin'

    Woof, Woof - Dawg [​IMG]
  6. MisterMe macrumors G4


    Jul 17, 2002
    Microsoft always claims that its new OS is better than ever before. It is always not true. Things will not be any different this time.
  7. BMWFan macrumors regular

    Apr 11, 2009
    The security researcher that hacked the macs at pwn2own claims Macs are the least secure. I am sure he knows a thing or two about security.

  8. flopticalcube macrumors G4


    Sep 7, 2006
    In the velcro closure of America's Hat
    No point in locking your front door if you live where no one else does. :D
  9. FX120 macrumors 65816


    May 18, 2007
    Scary stuff, but I am glad that the "UNIX = secure" myth is starting to get some attention.
  10. ceezy3000 macrumors 6502


    Jan 10, 2009
    The Valley!!
    a windows pc IS more secure than a mac. if there was a macbook and inspiron on a table somewhere and u told a thief to steal ONE hed take the mac :apple:
  11. Str8edgepunker macrumors 6502

    Nov 4, 2001
    Philadelphia, PA
    A computer is only as secure as the person who is using it.

    That is all.
  12. ceezy3000 macrumors 6502


    Jan 10, 2009
    The Valley!!
    there is a difference in this thinking. for overall security Mac OS X is the best. but in certain aspects it loses to windows in security
    1. as annoying as the windows security popups maybe, they do keep u secure is a much more difficult OS tohack.
    there is a difference in security, for a day to day user mac os x is much more secure. the main worry for computer users today are viruses and not being hacked or cracked by a security expert or hacker. theres a very small chance a hacker is outside ur window trying to get into your computer. there is a bigger chance of u downloading something stupid and having ur computer infected.
    its just the peerspective
    for a home user :mac os x
    for a guy participating in something like cansecwest:windows
  13. Melrose Suspended


    Dec 12, 2007
    They're still saying that about Vista... gad..
  14. TSE macrumors 68030

    Jun 25, 2007
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    In actuality, Mac OS X and UNIX based operating systems aren't much more secure, if at all, than Windows based of of DOS or the .NT Kernel, it's just that there are SO many more viruses made for Windows operating systems due to such a big share of the marketshare, I think Windows has something like 80-90% of all computer operating systems.
  15. michael.lauden macrumors 68020


    Dec 25, 2008
    that's not true at all. or atleast wasn't true after internet explorer came out.

    however if all these claims are true. and windows keeps copying OS X.... i might have to purchase Parallels soon :)

    just think - on a copy/performance scale - vista was like jaguar, 7 is more like panther.

    if windows 8 is like tiger, i think i'd purchase it.

    (i'm just kidding of course about the comparisons. lets not start another mac vs pc arguent and lock the thread)
  16. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    the statement is vague and windows 7 is not out yet. We can do more research when its out.

    For now, I would leave it alone.

    False ads are everywhere, apple is leading the pack in that regard, who really cares?
  17. tubbymac macrumors 65816


    Nov 6, 2008
    The most secure OS on the planet?

    Was he talking about Earth, or like Saturn where it could be true?
  18. WickedRabbit macrumors regular

    Feb 17, 2009
    I've been saying for quite a while that the only reason Apple isn't more in the spotlight in regards to viruses is simply because hackers see no point in exploiting Mac when only 11% of the market has a Mac. Why waste the time when you can go after the big fish, the other 89% that Microsoft dominates and increase your profits even more?

    I pay attention to the PWN2OWN all the time and year after year all the world's best hackers crack Mac OSX first and they all say the same thing: it's the easiest to crack.

    The good news, is that as Apple's share in the market increases they will more than likely also start focusing on security more, as right now there really is no need due to the lack of interest from hackers. As they grow though, Apple will have to take steps forward in advancing its security.

    You're only safe right now because no one cares about you - hard to believe for some, but that's the simple reason.

    Remember the press Apple got not too long ago about when their site recommended using virus software and then it immediately got yanked when news sites around the web starting pointing fingers saying it's because the Mac isn't as secure as Apple wants you to think? I think that was Apple realizing that as their market increases, so will viruses and they currently have no real security software. But, Apple chose to protect their image instead of their customers, so they yanked the software and said Macs are secure. Good luck with that in the near future.

    I run virus software on both my Mac and PC. I'm just anal like that because no matter how secure your software may be, doesn't hurt to have a little extra protection.
  19. dsharits macrumors 68000


    Jun 19, 2004
    The People's Republic of America
    Let's not forget that Bill Gates promised zero viruses for Vista too...
  20. yetanotherdave macrumors 68000


    Apr 27, 2007
    Bristol, England
    You are wrong to say it though. THink of the fame, the first person to successfully write a virus for OS X. Think of the attention and the money, there have been prizes of around $50k for a OS X virus.

    No one has done it. Not one single virus. If there were OS X virus' but less than Windows, then you can pull out your market share argument. But NO OS X virus' absolutely means it's a lot harder. Hacking a box locally in a contest and getting a virus to work are two different things.

    Back to the original article, I assume the MS guy means consumer OS's only, either that or he's ignorant of OS's such as OpenVMS.
  21. dvdhsu macrumors 6502a


    Mar 28, 2008
    Palo Alto, CA
    So basically, this doesn't mean much.
    Ah well, time to start sending porn links to everybody using Windows 7.
    *Takes gloves off*:D
  22. techfreak85 macrumors 68040


    Jan 13, 2008
    haha that made me laugh!

    @Microsoft: Bologna.
  23. WickedRabbit macrumors regular

    Feb 17, 2009
    Yes, because surely what a hacker wants is to be famous and win a measly $50,000 and waste a great hack that everyone will patch immediately afterwards. I think your level of thought is extremely close minded. I bet you save your credit card info and take a picture of your social security card "for emergencies" and store it on your iPhone too.

    If I've come up with the perfect way to rob a bank and get away with it, i'm going to save it to use on Fort Knox, not go rob a Seven Eleven. I wouldn't even be surprised if the exploits/viruses for Mac OSX all ready exist and people are simply just waiting for Apple's market share to increase to make it all worth while. The whole point is that USUALLY you will only get one great shot at pulling off something spectacular because after that, the heat is on. So, with Apple being completely laid back on security my guess is that the very first full on attack will be highly successful and by the time people figure out what's going on, it'll be too late and millions of people would have gotten ripped off. Afterwards, Apple will ramp up their security, but at the cost of millions of customers all ready.

    The very first person to write a Mac virus will use it steal millions of people's credit cards, social security numbers, etc. that all you people that think you're safe over in La La Land with your unicorns and rainbows.

    The point of PWN2OWN is not to write a virus, it's to gain control of a system by any means because that's more valuable than a virus. Year after year they all are picking OSX and it's always the very first one cracked. In a lot of situations, the Windows exploits aren't even successful, meanwhile everyone else hacks OSX in 10 seconds. Someone can be remotely connected to your machine without you knowing and what could they do? Well, when you go spend $3000 on a MacBook Air they could write programs to take screenshots of your credit card number and all information associated. They could create keyloggers that specifically start recording only when a 'longer digit' begins to be entered because it could possibly be a credit card number. Plenty of things.

    No one is going to waste their time until they deem they can reap the benefits.
  24. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Doesn't Microsoft always make this claim for each new update? Call me crazy, but last I checked, Corficker was still making trouble for all Windows based machines even if they had the patch Microsoft had pushed. I mean, how can a machine still fall victim even with the exploit fixed? Leaves so much to ask...

    Windows 7 will still be unsafe, it is still based on Vista, which is based on XP, which is based on NT, which is an 10-12 year old architecture of ancient code and exploits waiting to be found.

    As long as Windows depends on the DLLhell, Registry and System32 and pretty much everything its handled, it will still be insecure. UNIX based OS's have a clear advantage, no I am not saying this to support OS X. It is a blunt truth. However, I think Linux is much more secure than OS X, but that last statement is IMO.

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