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TikTok is very confusing to me. Supposedly this is the #1 app in the world but I have never seen anyone using it or used it myself. Just absolutely terrible content cross-posted on forums. lol
 
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I didn't think I'd ever be cheering on Microsoft but it's about damn time that Zuckerberg & Co. got some real competition. Facebook managed to avert extinction because they bought their emerging competition at Instagram, and did it again with WhatsApp. They failed with TikTok which already has a larger key demographic than Facebook.
 
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I think he should ban it completely until China fixes its Muslim problem. And he should hold a no questions presser to specify it, that would force the media and all the tiktok people to recognize an active human atrocity being committed right now by the CCP. He could also mention all these dirt bag US entities like the NBA and Blizzard who are eager to put on humanitarian blinders while they guzzle CCP juice.
 
I wouldn't trust any CCP apps at all cost, even if America companies like Microsoft buys them.

I'd rather America companies to make their own TikTok-like, not buying from China. I'd rather Instagram Reel over CCP Tiktok anytime these days.
Facebook's strategy is copy and kill. Microsoft's strategy is buy and kill.
 
Since when was Skype "Professional"?? Maybe for small businesses, but none of the companies I worked in or with ever used consumer Skype as a professional conferencing solution. It's always been consumer focused...hence the ads and merging with your Messenger.

It's all going to be replaced with Teams. Teams for personal use is released in beta now. Let's hope MS gets it right this time.


Pardon me? We used Skype for projects all the time, met with contractors all over the world and our main office in Europe. Providers in Asia also joined us through Skype. And when needing to make regular phone calls you could easily add funds and call away... I don’t see your point tbh.
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Question: do you travel?

I do, for both pleasure and business. Thanks for asking.
 
Still waiting for the hawks in China to assume command. I don't think people realize how much damage China could do to the US, if they really wanted to. As it is, they just give a proportionate answer to every provocation coming from Trump/Pompeo.
 
The only thing I'm more sick of reading about than Trump lately is Tik Tok. Both are detrimental to America.
Absolutely this.
But with the ability to side load TikTok on an Android device, how is it possible to ban an app?
I can see Apple's walled garden; if they remove it from the App Store.
But for Android, no such limitation exists.
Even if he could convince the ISP's to ban the servers; there are proxies and VPN.
 
I think he should ban it completely until China fixes its Muslim problem. And he should hold a no questions presser to specify it, that would force the media and all the tiktok people to recognize an active human atrocity being committed right now by the CCP. He could also mention all these dirt bag US entities like the NBA and Blizzard who are eager to put on humanitarian blinders while they guzzle CCP juice.

US is probably not the country who should champion the Muslim issue. US companies would be banned long time ago if Muslim issue can be used as a reason for punishing companies. Plus, US media reports on China related issue are pretty much disinformation campaign.
 
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Pardon me? We used Skype for projects all the time, met with contractors all over the world and our main office in Europe. Providers in Asia also joined us through Skype. And when needing to make regular phone calls you could easily add funds and call away... I don’t see your point tbh.
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I do, for both pleasure and business. Thanks for asking.
You're pardoned.

Perhaps it's a US thing...perhaps it was different in the EU since that's where Skype originated, but all of the US companies I've ever worked with (and there have been many) have used an actual enterprise provider of conferencing, whether that be WebEx, GoToMeeting, AT&T, etc. Gartner didn't even list Skype in their Magic Quadrant for Web Conferencing report in 2010, the year before Microsoft bought them.

The point I was trying to make is, many of your complaints would hold more validity if Skype were considered a premium enterprise product, but clearly Microsoft saw it as a consumer product. Hence the ads and merging it with their consumer identity platform. But I do agree that Microsoft just let Skype kind of rot away the last few years. And it's clear that Teams will be replacing it now that they have released a personal version.
 
Absolutely this.
But with the ability to side load TikTok on an Android device, how is it possible to ban an app?
I can see Apple's walled garden; if they remove it from the App Store.
But for Android, no such limitation exists.
Even if he could convince the ISP's to ban the servers; there are proxies and VPN.

Good question.
 
Since when was Skype "Professional"?? Maybe for small businesses, but none of the companies I worked in or with ever used consumer Skype as a professional conferencing solution. It's always been consumer focused...hence the ads and merging with your Messenger.

It's all going to be replaced with Teams. Teams for personal use is released in beta now. Let's hope MS gets it right this time.

Teams notifications sometimes work and sometimes just don’t bother to tell you about a chat.

Read receipts work about 5% of the time. Usually a person has replied to your chat and the app still doesn’t acknowledge your initial message was read.

Unless Microsoft fixes these issues, teams for non business use is doa
 
Da kiddos are all using the tick tocking, and I'm over here reading a book with an onion tied to my belt.

Which is the style at the time....
 
Just to be more clear on why it's a national security concern, it's mainly because of geo location data. The US government doesn't want the possibility of that data being sent back to the Chinese government (or any foreign government), and US service members use these kind of apps at bases, etc.

It's not related to just Tik Tok. I forget which one, but there was another app that ran into the same security issues several years back because US troops were using the app at military installations.

This is nonsense.Any govt can dictate what it’s personnel does.

Worst excuse ever. No excuse for swallowing this kind of bs story.
 
so...he just got played by China again. how many billions of US $$ are we sending them now for this stupid a$$ app?
Who is “we” ? You think you are M$? You think you are USG? You think they think “we” with you in their mind? Seriously?
 
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Pardon me? We used Skype for projects all the time, met with contractors all over the world and our main office in Europe. Providers in Asia also joined us through Skype. And when needing to make regular phone calls you could easily add funds and call away... I don’t see your point tbh.
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I do, for both pleasure and business. Thanks for asking.

I worked for DoD and currently the Department of Veterans Affairs at a giant VA hospital, Skype was what we used for conference calls as well.


We did however just in the past few weeks switched to Microsoft teams though.
 
Anyone who has lived in a third world dictatorship understands what this is:

“.....Responding to a handful of questions on Monday afternoon, Trump said the social media platform Tik Tok must be sold to Microsoft or another company by 15 September or it will be shut down in US. He also said the Treasury should receive payment as a portion of any deal between the social media platform and a US company......”

If you believe in democracy and the rule of law, and are against corruption, you should be outraged.
 
Anyone who has lived in a third world dictatorship understands what this is:

“.....Responding to a handful of questions on Monday afternoon, Trump said the social media platform Tik Tok must be sold to Microsoft or another company by 15 September or it will be shut down in US. He also said the Treasury should receive payment as a portion of any deal between the social media platform and a US company......”

If you believe in democracy and the rule of law, and are against corruption, you should be outraged.

LOL, this ain't happening. It's just Trump talking **** he's has no clue about as usual.
 
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