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I don't get all the hate. It is really interesting tech and if nothing else competition is good as is alternatives to Apple's offerings.
 
They don’t want to. The core design philosophy Jobs instilled in Apple was Zen. To use as little natural resources as possible with the biggest and most inspirational impact.

That’s the opposite of that leather jacket asshat conman Jensen Huang who doesn’t giving a flying **** how much energy or ewaste his GPUs consume or how fake his benchmark charts are.
That seems heavily-undermined by the current Mac/Ipad/iPhone model where all of the SSD storage, RAM and CPU are bundled into one SOC, which will render the entire device recycle material as soon as any one component fails. Not to mention this model locks the system into not being upgraded to remain useful. Take for example a guy who buys an 8GB MBP and then 3 months later lands a job where he needs to do a ton more with the machine at home or while on the road. And the MBP is incapable due to memory constraints.
 


Microsoft today announced the launch of new Windows PCs that have integrated AI hardware, called Copilot+ PCs. According to Microsoft, the Copilot+ PCs are the fastest PCs "ever built" with all-day battery life, chips capable of 40 trillion operations per second, and "access to the most advanced AI models."
Well, if MS says it is creating a new OS, it means MS has already got it done.

"The new Microsoft Surface Pro and Surface Laptop are some of the first Copilot+ PCs, and ASUS, Acer, Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Samsung have also introduced Copilot+ PCs. The new PCs are available today and are priced starting at $999."
 
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They don’t want to. The core design philosophy Jobs instilled in Apple was Zen. To use as little natural resources as possible with the biggest and most inspirational impact.

That’s the opposite of that leather jacket asshat conman Jensen Huang who doesn’t giving a flying **** how much energy or ewaste his GPUs consume or how fake his benchmark charts are.
Getting to AGI, which seems to be the end goal, requires metric ton of computational power. Until a better way is found, there's no way around it.
 
I like AI, I really do. I like working with it on text as a sparring partner, I just spent a Weekend on Dall-e and MidJourney generating images, I use motion (whether they really use AI or not), I am wowed by the demos OpenAI just showed. And the usage in Lightroom and Photoshop, not generating, but repairing images, masking stuff, all these timesavers and improvements of live... awesome. But the hype and the half-arsed attempt to bake GPTs into an OS feel shortsighted. It feels as if MS is in panic mode and pushing this to save Windows. Doing it like that bears the risk of Ai ending up as a hyped-up mess like NFTs and so on. While in fact, being able to talk to your devices almost like to a human being, the things MS showed with images and audio, the basic Asimovian idea of a machine that know so much and still tries to be friendly to us... so much potential here, if we do this right and do not use it for manipulation, war and greed. (Which is what humans do, alas). AI is more than a tool to replace human labour on a phone hotline ;-). And frankly, Apple is the company which at least has a grain of what it takes to push this in the right direction.
 
I think most would admit that Apple are in a tricky spot at the moment.
No more so than Dell, HP, and Lenovo. And probably less than those three.

The small computer business continues to slowly fade. This is a long running problem, since around the turn of the millennium.

And Apple (Jobs and Cook) moved Apple to be primarily a portables and services company.

the general stagnation of product lines

There's not much left to change in many products.

Think of cereal products sold in grocery stores. Pretty much the same thing over the past half century. The boxed-cereal concept reach maturity many, many decades ago.

Also: I suspect some here and in the only commentariat are repeating a general feeling in our American (and other western) societies - an ennui that touches both the material and the emotional.
 
It feels as if MS is in panic mode and pushing this to save Windows.
I'm not really sure, who is in the panic mode.
MS has hundreds of Windows computer manufacturers to back it. It is not the only major computer manufacturer.
 
I like AI, I really do. I like working with it on text as a sparring partner, I just spent a Weekend on Dall-e and MidJourney generating images, I use motion (whether they really use AI or not), I am wowed by the demos OpenAI just showed. And the usage in Lightroom and Photoshop, not generating, but repairing images, masking stuff, all these timesavers and improvements of live... awesome. But the hype and the half-arsed attempt to bake GPTs into an OS feel shortsighted. It feels as if MS is in panic mode and pushing this to save Windows. Doing it like that bears the risk of Ai ending up as a hyped-up mess like NFTs and so on. While in fact, being able to talk to your devices almost like to a human being, the things MS showed with images and audio, the basic Asimovian idea of a machine that know so much and still tries to be friendly to us... so much potential here, if we do this right and do not use it for manipulation, war and greed. (Which is what humans do, alas). AI is more than a tool to replace human labour on a phone hotline ;-). And frankly, Apple is the company which at least has a grain of what it takes to push this in the right direction.
In a computing world where Windows was is / was becoming less relevant, of course they're trying to save Windows.
 
In which computing world, Windows is less relevant? With a market share of around 72%?
In a computing world where 80% of Internet traffic happens through smartphones.

In a computing world where sales of laptops / desktops have been steadily declining post-COVID

In a computing world where Windows PC's account for only 10% of the totality of the computing devices sold (smartphones, tablets, desktops, laptops)

Outside of the enterprise, Windows is not as important as it used to be. Not even close
 
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In a computing world where 80% of Internet traffic happens through smartphones.
The banks, gov't offices, businesses, armed forces, educational institutions etc are too?
In a computing world where sales of laptops / desktops have been steadily declining post-COVID
Covid is history, long forgotten.
In a computing world where Windows PC's account for only 10% of the totality of the computing devices sold (smartphones, tablets, desktops, laptops)
In which country is that happening?
Outside of the enterprise, Windows is not as important as it used to be. Not even close
Youngsters love gaming... :)
 
Getting to AGI, which seems to be the end goal, requires metric ton of computational power. Until a better way is found, there's no way around it.

They can claim anything is AGI. They can shift the goalposts forwards or backwards. Whatever suits their marketing.

We need to read between the lines. They just talk horse **** to pump their stocks and valuations.

They don’t care who that hurts. It’s trickle up economics. Has nothing to do with “AGI” and everything to do with “MBA” (my bank account).
 
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https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/black...at GTC in,than the NVIDIA Hopper architecture.
Watt for watt their neural engine and GPUs outperform Nvidia. If Apple’s chips consumed as much as a high end Nvidia chip it would have monstrous performance and if they had cloud computing services Jensen Huang would be forced to sell his douche bag leather jacket collection.
You are aware of the fact the NVidias new Blackwell architecture dramatically decreased power consumption while it increased throughput?

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/black...t GTC in,than the NVIDIA Hopper architecture.
 
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NGL, Windows 11 is a horrid and bloated OS which I have the misfortune of using it daily.

The jankiest hardware designs running the jankiest OS now with generative handiness built in.

Hate how even more bloated an already bloated Windows has become with all this "AI" stuff.

Lol I love reading these comments, lol.

MacOS has become ios it's more janky at its UI core than Windows 11 has and yes I've used both for personal and corporate use. Since BIG Sur id take Windows 11 any day of the week!

Apple has forgotten what MacOS was supposed to be even reverting back to the old case spelling ONLY for nostalgia and brought big GUI loads because it looks appealing NOT efficient.

How many macOS users today know a healthy use of keyboard shortcuts, and use more than 15 daily in their workflows outside of specific app usage? Now let's sort those users I to age groups and like the majority of iPhone base model and pro base model purchases (in N. America and western Europe) I'll bet the majority that does NOT are under the age of 31!

The 3 members that have posted the above critique - have a right to do so of course - yet unless you've worked woth converting heavy data from Word adding large spreadsheet data with add-ins and using pivot tables and the like and place into a meaningful and legible PowerPoint for presentation (sorry but Pages, Numbers etc cannot hold a candle) have no idea how much work ans time CoPolit saves the end user both in rich client and online via M365.

Apple's online software mentioned above is abysmal to the rich client and is constipated even to consider use. To me that's worse than bloat that's just a give-up stance by Apple, and not even Cue can take thr blame for that - as it's software engineers leadership that hasn't even bothered considering at all to push the team.

Oh wait talk about BLOAT:

MacOS Monterey is 26GB download size and requires 44GB of free space for installation 😲🤯!

Windows 11 Pro is 5GB in the iso (u need 8GB for Bootable USB) yet takes ONLY 12GB free space on SSD for installation! No variances of any PC system is EVER as bloated as Monterey.
 

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Only a matter till macOS becomes essentially "iPadOS Pro"
Yup and we're already seeing how users on ios and ipados interact

Tap ... (pause) .. tap ... (pause) ... swipe (with an accented finger gesture that'll make the late Queen Elizabeth's Tea time cup holding jealous lol.

Sorry but I feel a lot of my old actions on iOS/iPadOS for 14yrs was just too darn slow! I've been out to the test to prove it several times against a close friend for the same tasks vs his android which was $600 cheaper for 9yrs!

I'm a lot faster and more productive now using my S23 than I ever was on any ios product I've ever owned - even if thr same amount of spelling mistakes on device occurs here and there lol.
 
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Is there any other OS whose change log (new features log) prominently features Emojis? I have not come across any, but if you can show me, I will stop making these comments :)
Well maybe you can be guest WWDC speaker and ditch that in the key features... ;)

People maybe like a visual to relieve the boredom?

The people who comment normally make out Apple only new features are Emojis.
They announce their support for them.
But pundits lampoon them for their fast support.

Guess you cant please everyone...
 
Yup and we're already seeing how users on ios and ipados interact

Tap ... (pause) .. tap ... (pause) ... swipe (with an accented finger gesture that'll make the late Queen Elizabeth's Tea time cup holding jealous lol.

Sorry but I feel a lot of my old actions on iOS/iPadOS for 14yrs was just too darn slow! I've been out to the test to prove it several times against a close friend for the same tasks vs his android which was $600 cheaper for 9yrs!

I'm a lot faster and more productive now using my S23 than I ever was on any ios product I've ever owned - even if thr same amount of spelling mistakes on device occurs here and there lol.
and yet on those Samsung devices you still come here... ;)
 
I just built a PC and gave a shot at W11, not doing it again! Ads right out of the gate. Yes it looks nicer than W10, but at the cost of all the bloat I had to deal with.

I just installed W10 and everything went much nicer. Still wanted me to get into office 365 every time on setup, but that was pretty much it.
Unfortunately if your CPU is Intel 12the Gen+, it has specific optimisations built into W11 which W10 doesn’t have. Just an FYI
 
and yet on those Samsung devices you still come here... ;)
Discussion.

The fact that there is a thriving healthy forum for ios alternative devices should tell you something.

I'm a Snr Service Desk technician so I work with macOS & Windows and have for over 17yrs at very large fortune 500 companies, so I have a vested interest in both OS' and companies. The Apple IIe was the 2nd comouter I've ever used and with just 2mths with the Pet, a double-sided floppy from my Dad's friend brought immediate joy to an entire class (teacher included) of 8yrs olds all of whom barely played asteroids, Galaga and similar arcade games.

I've been a member on these boards for many years and dialogue is fun, interesting and insightful, not to mention educational - all much more than a few other boards but not by much.

You're trying to alienate and discredit my reason or right to being here just cause of the device I personally choose to use shows you have a LOT to learn on the reasons I've listed in the paragraph directly above. I'll bet you didn't even bother to look at my profile before you quoted above.

Cheers enjoy your narrow view of others in this world if it serves you keep on keeping on. Yet the world is vast and by a magnitude so are people, growth and happiness could await you expanding your demonstrated view. I wish on many things Apple would, after all it took 8yrs for Craig to go back on the Bumping for sharing contacts narrow view vagued insult he demonstrated ;)
 
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