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Lot of cool stuff here besides W10 IMO

That Hologram headset
Surface Hub = huge 80" screen
Cortana integration everywhere
Ton of new interconnectivity between MS devices including Xbox-PC

With MS you always have to wait to see if the execution matches the hype, but a lot of novel ideas here
 
The big news to me is MS HoloLens, details here: http://www.wired.com/2015/01/microsoft-hands-on/


This is big if implemented in a nice way and with developers jumping on the train (and I really don't like Microsoft products historically except for maybe the XBox in a lukewarm way).

A few more pictures here:

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...ws-holographic-augmented-reality-project.aspx

Oculus and Glass just were left in the dust today in my opinion.

Maybe Apple is working on something similar?

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/1...-goggles-highlighted-in-newly-granted-patent/

But this is a rather old patent. We will see...

Glass maybe, but I don't see the Oculus comparison. AR "holograms" are a different beast entirely.
 
It's either that or Microsoft just jumped the shark... This seems more appropriate for a research project.

CastAR (a very small company, they did a Kickstarter in 2013) is working on similar stuff:

http://technicalillusions.com/

I think Augmented Reality as a category is near mass-market adoption, especially because Microsoft has a game console that it can pair the tech with.
 
Might be better than Windows 8 but its still too busy for me. I'm not sold on the live tiles concept. When I look at Windows 8/10 screen my brain doesn't know what to focus on. Information overload.

i get paralyzed when i bring up the metro view. i cannot accomplish the simplest things in it.

maybe i just havent trained myself enough though.

but busy, distractions and information overload reminds me of this article i read recently on the guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/science/...j-levitin-organized-mind-information-overload
 
I understand the confusion, but nowhere do they say 'free for the first year,' they do say that you will qualify for an update for one year. I know the verbiage is lousy, but do you really believe they are that crazy?

Hopefully, I won't be proven wrong, but I run a MBP at home, so it won't bother me either way.


"In an effort to get its users to adopt Windows 10, Microsoft is planning to distribute Windows 10 to Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 users at no cost for the first year, which is an unprecedented move for the Washington-based company.

Once a device is upgraded to Windows 10, Microsoft plans to keep the operating system current for the lifetime of the device. With a unified operating system, developers can target every single Windows device, and Microsoft is planning for long term support.


No confusion. Windows 7/8 users get a free upgrade to windows 10 if they do so within 1 year of windows 10 release.

Microsoft has done this before on a much more limited basis, normally for new Pc's purchased within a few months of a new OS release.
 
"In an effort to get its users to adopt Windows 10, Microsoft is planning to distribute Windows 10 to Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 users at no cost for the first year, which is an unprecedented move for the Washington-based company.

Once a device is upgraded to Windows 10, Microsoft plans to keep the operating system current for the lifetime of the device. With a unified operating system, developers can target every single Windows device, and Microsoft is planning for long term support.


No confusion. Windows 7/8 users get a free upgrade to windows 10 if they do so within 1 year of windows 10 release.

Microsoft has done this before on a much more limited basis, normally for new Pc's purchased within a few months of a new OS release.

I wasn't really confused, I was trying to correct the previous poster without starting a flame war.
 
So, free for the first year, then... what?... a subscription OS?

If you don't pay up, how will that square with the whole "...keep the operating system current for the lifetime of the device" thing?


Corrected below:

no. you have 1 year to upgrade for free from Win7 or 8. One year after Win10 releases you must pay for an upgrade if you didn't during the free upgrade period.

Thanks, sbailey4. :)
 
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Giving it away for free is mind blowing and will really impact their bottom line. Unlike Apple, they rely on the sales of Windows. Apple gets their money by selling you the hardware. MS doesn't really do hardware (other then the xbox/mice/surface tablet)

I don't think it'll mean that much to their profits. Most of the license revenue from Windows is from either OEM installs or annual corporate-level license agreements that already give larger companies the option to run the latest OS. I'd imagine upgrades by individuals or small companies that don't have a subscription is a fairly small piece of the puzzle.
 
Does anybody know if this free promotion will be upgrade only? Meaning that if in 1 year I will need to format, do I have to install 7 or 8 first then upgrade back to 10?
 
Free for one year? Is MS really stupid enough to sell an OS that works on a subscription model? Who would buy a computer that has a monthly fee to use?

After the epic failure that was 8, I really thought it was impossible for an MS to do anything even dumber....

You misunderstood it.
 
Of course you don't have to pay a subscription. Nobody would ever accept having to pay a monthly/yearly subscription to continue to use their own computers and anti-competitive organisations would never allow Microsoft to put people in that position. That would be off-the-wall crazy.

Microsoft doesn't make a huge amount of money off Windows upgrades. Most people never upgrade Windows. It's a small sacrifice to get everyone running one version of Windows. They'll still sell millions of licenses for new devices.

Microsoft is probably planning to make upgrades free permanently, but is using a year-long limit to try and increase the adoption.
 
Looks like subscription to me:

"Free for the first year"

"Current OS for the lifetime of the device"

"Windows is turning into a service"

They're just putting off the bombshell drop for a little while.
If it is NOT going to be a subscription then they have succeeded in poorly wording what they plan on doing.

In many instances, the word "service" is codeword for subscription.

I remember when Panay introduced the Surface Pro 3. He chose his words extremely carefully to give the impression that it was fanless even though he never said it was fanless. There was a bit of confusion in the hours/day that followed as some were trying to determine exactly what he meant.

This "Windows is a service" smacks of the same.


What I found interesting was the promise of Windows 10 awareness of operating in tablet mode or notebook mode and making adjustments accordingly. That seems to be the next logical step (some would say it should've been the step taken with Windows 8). It'll be interesting to see if what some of us are thinking (Apple to produce a device that switches between iOS and OSX) comes to pass.
 
So, free for the first year, then... what?... a subscription OS?

no. you have 1 year to upgrade for free from Win7 or 8. One year after Win10 releases you must pay for an upgrade if you didn't during the free upgrade period.
 
Does anybody know if this free promotion will be upgrade only? Meaning that if in 1 year I will need to format, do I have to install 7 or 8 first then upgrade back to 10?

They said it would be free to owners of Windows 7 and 8. I don't believe that implies upgrade installation. However, it would almost certainly mean providing a key, even for a virgin install.
 
Nobody would ever accept having to pay a monthly/yearly subscription to continue to use their own computers and anti-competitive organisations would never allow Microsoft to put people in that position. That would be off-the-wall crazy.


Tell that to those people who fully accepted Adobe's move with the subscription model of Creative Cloud. Many got suckered into paying a monthly subscription to use necessary software that really, only big production houses could afford.

The smart ones are sticking with CS6 and older until something better comes along.
 
Most general population may not upgrade

Unless you maybe a company, a professional using window PC based computer, or a computer geek, most general population using as personal may NOT upgrade or know about the upgrade perhaps by word of mouth and even then they wouldn't really think about upgrading. For those who use PC lightly aren't going to do much to it. I've seen store owner I'd visit and who I work with as clients for my website business, most are on windows 7 or maybe 8 if they are even inkling technically inclined. Most have outdated browsers, most have outdated virus protector or don't know what to do with computers. I feel like apple users are much more versatile in their use of macs as I see other general mac population really take it more seriously. So, having windows 10 is now up to the general population who don't buy computers or upgrade computers all that often will probably not realize there is a 10 out there. At least now they caught up to Mac 10.0's. lol.
 
Windows 8 was a disaster in sales and no one updated

The Windows 8.0 numbers are actually passable, though its mostly from new PC sales. Not surprising that people without touchscreens would give it a wide berth, given how Microsoft baked that into the OS.

Still too much of a "Sybil" experience IMO: Q. Is it Windows 7 or Windows Tiles? A. Depends entirely on what you select...

Giving away windows 10 is brilliant in that a huge percentage will update and everyone will be up to date

I wonder where they got that idea. Hmmm... LOL
 
As a Android fanboy I'm pretty impressed with this announcement. Like to see what Samsung and HTC does with their Windows 10 phones. If the apps work from PC to tablet to phone this may make me a 100% Microsoft fanboy.
 
So far Windows 10 has been great to use. Whether Microsoft can deliver on all of today's promises is yet undetermined.

From my point of view as an option to Mac Windows is still missing a backup scheme as good as Time Machine, full disk encryption capabilities regardless of OS version or hardware and a reasonable way to reinstalling it that does not require updates upon updates upon updates.
 
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