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Microsoft Demos Free Windows 10 Update, Debuts New 'Project Spartan' Web Browser

HVDynamo said:
I doubt it in this case. I think it would be shooting themselves in the foot. If that is the case, then I will be switching to Linux on my windows Box once windows 7 is no longer supported, or making it a hackintosh. I think what they mean though is that you only need to pay for the OS once on your machine. When you build a new box, or buy a new laptop a windows license will be paid for at that point. Beyond that, they keep it up to date for free until the machine is to old and slow. This is how apple does it now. You pay for the OS with the hardware, then free updates from there on out.
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Wouldn't free Windows updates, to the latest version, for the lifetime of the machine be a much bigger headline that this 1 year free update period? Wouldn't they be singing it from the rooftops instead of hiding behind vague phrases?
 
This is fantastic! I have Windows 7 on my wife's laptop and it's great. I have Windows 8.1 in a virtual machine on my Mac and it's almost as good (better in some ways). Windows 10 should be just right for both systems...yay!
 
sw1tcher said:
Microsoft gave out free upgrades from Vista to 7 and also from 7 to 8 when customers bought new PC's during a certain period. This free Win 10 offer during the 1st year is not much different.

So if there's anyone who borrowed the idea about giving away for free a new OS, it's :apple:
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They gave out free upgrades from vista to cut down on the suicide rate of people being forced to use it.

And giving out copies after a product is released rather than recall all of the old laptops off shelves or rather than having people return them isn't giving away anything. it common sense and good business.
 
I really like what I'm seeing and am excited to update my W8 VM and try it out. Interesting that Microsoft brought Cortana to Windows before Apple brought Siri to OS X (not that I'd use it).

Microsoft has really stepped up it's game, Apple will nead to tread more carefully. Their Continutiy is, in my opinion, a huge innovation in a different direction than MS's "one OS everywhere," but OS X and iOS's stability and bugs have been outrageous and have really given MS a chance to gain traction again.
 
Mousse said:
Clever move by MS. After the first year, they release 10.1 or Win10 SP1. You can either pony up for the update or keep running a bug riddled public beta. Since when has MS gotten Windows right on the first attempt? Windows 3.0 -> 3.1 (got it right), Win95 -> Win98 (got it right), XP -> XP SP2 (got it right), Vista -> Win7 (got it right), Win8 -> Win8.1 (Metro is still crap, but there are 3rd party shells).... Win10 -> Win10.1 (after it's no longer free:p).
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If Apple has gotten it right with their OS releases, then why do they offer 10.x.1, 10.x.2, 10.x.3, etc updates to their OS? Because no piece of software is 100% perfect.
 
macsrcool1234 said:
Free for one year? Is MS really stupid enough to sell an OS that works on a subscription model? Who would buy a computer that has a monthly fee to use?

After the epic failure that was 8, I really thought it was impossible for an MS to do anything even dumber....
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iBM mainframes had a monthly service fee and was a big part of the company revenue. I can see this monthly fee as part of an enterprise deploy. Consumer, Mac and Linux is looking a lot better.
 
I wonder what's going to be free for the first year...the basic, home, professional, or ultimate edition? /sarcasm
 
They really need to work on their product videos. I want to see the product, not the man who made it.

It's very frustrating the tech preview isn't available straight away; you'd think they would launch their product and then say 'oh by the way, he's the download'.

I've been using Windows 10 since September and it's much better than Windows 8.
 
Renzatic said:
It's a reputation patch, much like 7 was for Vista. Even if IE is pretty decent these days, the name has garnered such a bad reputation over the years, they might as well scrap it entirely and start from scratch.
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If Windows 7 was a patch to Vista, why did it take 3 years to come along?

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CFreymarc said:
iBM mainframes had a monthly service fee and was a big part of the company revenue. I can see this monthly fee as part of an enterprise deploy. Consumer, Mac and Linux is looking a lot better.
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Enterprise customers already pay for windows based on a subscription - they are free to use whatever version they want. So.....

As for the consumer end, they said free to upgrade...no subscription was ever mentioned. Where in the hell are people pulling that nonsense from?
 
i didnt get a chance to watch and trying to catch up reading.. but I dont' think i've seen a release date yet announced... did I miss something?
 
macsrcool1234 said:
Free for one year? Is MS really stupid enough to sell an OS that works on a subscription model? Who would buy a computer that has a monthly fee to use?

After the epic failure that was 8, I really thought it was impossible for an MS to do anything even dumber....
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Wait... how did this even get 15 upvotes when its been contradicted multiple times???

Oh I see:

In an effort to get its users to adopt Windows 10, Microsoft is planning to distribute Windows 10 to Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 users at no cost for the first year, which is an unprecedented move for the Washington-based company.
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Renzatic said:
It's a reputation patch, much like 7 was for Vista. Even if IE is pretty decent these days, the name has garnered such a bad reputation over the years, they might as well scrap it entirely and start from scratch.
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Bingo! Much like Windows 10 is mostly rebranding for Windows 8--which is really windows 8.1.1 plus a couple of bolt on ui features that have been available from third party dev's for 2 years.
 
I'm weary of MS claiming to support Win 10 for the life of the device. I still have a 486 computer running MS DOS.

So if a modern computer I have now runs Windows 10, and it lasts 30+ years, MS will support it? Yeah right. I'd like to see the fine print that says 7-10 years tops.
 
LordVic said:
i didnt get a chance to watch and trying to catch up reading.. but I dont' think i've seen a release date yet announced... did I miss something?
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Based on various comments throughout it appears to be later this year. They mentioned multiple times that features would be released to the tech preview in the coming months. I would think we are looking at a fall release. I am impressed with the tech preview after running it on my primary VM for over a month. I have run into very few issues thus far and it hasn't hampered my ability to get the work done that I do on Windows. I am even more happier that I'll be able to upgrade my current Win 7 license once released and the laptops that have a mix of Win 7 and 8.
 
mw360 said:
That's that then. I concede. Seems like a good deal if the 'supported lifetime' approaches real world lifespans for PCs.
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That will be the shady part as PC makers usually only support consumer equipment for as long as the warranty exists. So like 4 years tops.
 
mw360 said:
That's that then. I concede. Seems like a good deal if the 'supported lifetime' approaches real world lifespans for PCs.
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It will be interesting what they deem to be lifetime.

Currently Microsoft is pretty good at long term support of their operating systems.
they have only recently stopped support for XP and Windows 2003 Server, over 10 years after their release.

Windows 2008 and windows 7 has only reached end of Mainstream support this year (almost 7 years) and will continue to receive extended support till 2020.
 
Iconoclysm said:
As for the consumer end, they said free to upgrade...no subscription was ever mentioned. Where in the hell are people pulling that nonsense from?
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I know right? It's amazing how many people are jumping to a conclusion that makes no sense. I think it's either:

Logical fallacy syndrome: Free upgrade for a year HAS to mean subscription at the end of the year. HAS TO... right?:confused:

Inner monologue v. facts: The narrative we build in our heads sometimes overrides the information processing centers of our brains.

Meth: It's a helluva drug.:D
 
Windows 7
Windows 8
Windows 10

No Windows 9...perhaps they think calling it "10" will make people think it's the same as OS X.
 
DudeDad said:
Windows 7
Windows 8
Windows 10

No Windows 9...perhaps they think calling it "10" will make people think it's the same as OS X.
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not 100% sure, but has something to do with Windows 95 and 98 and legacy code possibly getting confused bewtween Windows 9x and 9
 
DudeDad said:
Windows 7
Windows 8
Windows 10

No Windows 9...perhaps they think calling it "10" will make people think it's the same as OS X.
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There's no 9 because 7 8 9

or a more likely reason

Many of you should be old enough to remember that there have already been two versions of Windows that began with the number 9, specifically Windows 95 and Windows 98.

To save time, some third-party Windows desktop developers used a shorthand to check the version name (not number) of Windows they were installing their app to. Instead of coding apps to check for Windows 95 or Windows 98, developers coded instructions to check for "Windows 9."

That made sense since there were only two versions of Windows that had a nine in their name to that point. It was simply an easier way to figure out which version of Windows the program was dealing with.

Here's a Java code example that's been making the rounds on Google+, Reddit, and Twitter showing just this kind of version checking scheme.

Also check out this Windows 9 search on the code-focused search engine, searchcode, which was first identified by developer Christer Kaitila. At the top of the search results you'll see a bunch of code—again, Java—checking for Windows 9, but not Windows 9.

Microsoft may have looked out at the vast catalog of legacy code and decided the easiest way to avoid an annoying rewrite for all those programs was just to skip Windows 9 and head straight for Windows 10.
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