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Opera is using Chromium so you can't really avoid Google by using Opera these days.
Chromium is the rendering engine from Chrome, and by itself doesn't have the privacy issues associated with the Chrome browser; efficiency issues are another matter though.

But regardless, both Opera and the Mac port of Edge will use it, meaning Edge won't be of much benefit to Mac users who are already aware of Opera.
 
Microsoft is also switching Edge to Chromium code base so apparently that makes it easier to bring it to the Mac.
 
So instead of hearing, "Oh, I'm sorry. That feature only works on Microsoft Edge," I will now hear, "Oh, I'm sorry. That feature only works on Microsoft Edge for Windows."
 
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I wouldn't bother anyway, but wasn't there just talk of M$ ditching Edge..?

edit: https://www.extremetech.com/interne...soft-to-scrap-edge-for-chromium-based-browser

literally two days ago.

Really? Two days ago they announced they are discontinuing it. Hand-me-downs?

Did either of you actually read the article? The articles you mentioned were rumors. Microsoft today verified that they will be rebuilding Edge to be based on the Chromium rendering engine. Edge is going no where and they called that out in this article.
 
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It's a very good browser. Hopefully people who think their snarky comments are clever and appreciated will have actually used it and judged it on the merits first.

edit: too late lol.
Excep they dumped it to make another Chromium based broswer - just calling it Edge I guess - too bad.
 
Wait, Chrome can do 4K and so can Firefix, I believe.
S/he was talking about Netflix 4K.

Edge is the ONLY one that can do it AFAIK. However, that's on Windows. I'm not optimistic Netflix 4K will come to the Mac any time soon just because Edge is coming. Apple would likely need to implement it in the OS, but they haven't yet.

I thought Safari was the only one that cannot display 4K content (which is ridiculous considering Apple makes and sells 4 and 5K screens).
It's even more stupid because Apple already streams 4K video too... but only on iOS-based devices, not Macs, even though the 2017 and later Macs have full hardware support for the decoding and the DRM. Ironically, if you install Windows on a Mac, it streams Netflix 4K just fine... in Edge.

One big problem with Chrome though is that YouTube on Chrome uses VP9 for video decoding. Even though current Macs have hardware decode support for VP9, it is not utilized in Chrome on the Mac (because of lack of OS support I believe). This means that Chrome's video decoding eats battery. It's much more efficient on Safari since all the video from YouTube in Safari is h.264, which is decoded in hardware. The only limitation here is that Safari YouTube video is limited to 1440p, but that's actually OK.
 
I wouldn't bother anyway, but wasn't there just talk of M$ ditching Edge..?

edit: https://www.extremetech.com/interne...soft-to-scrap-edge-for-chromium-based-browser

literally two days ago.

This would line up with that news not go against it. Likely, a shift to Chromium will allow them to have native MacOS support so they're adding it. Unlike their current Edge browser which would require MacOS development from scratch.

Also, if they switch to Chromium it is very likely they will still call the browser MS Edge branding wise...
 
...And I suspect it’s so MS can say that when they launch an ARM based Surface (with Windows Store apps only) that it’s ok because Edge is basically Chrome now.
 
Is Microsoft trolling Mac users?
I read recently that they have decided to basically abandon Edge and focus on creating their own Chrome version.
 
...And I suspect it’s so MS can say that when they launch an ARM based Surface (with Windows Store apps only) that it’s ok because Edge is basically Chrome now.
Chromium is open sourse today, on intel 32bit, 64 biitor on Arm processors. It's open source; nobody can take it away
 
I was using Edge on my Windows 10 desktop but found it too buggy when navigating the iCloud website. Kept logging me out. However Edge on my iPhone worked quite well. I don’t trust google so I’m now using Firefox on my desktop and iPhone and am quite happy with it.
 
Excited until i herd about the Chromium rendering engine, not sure how this is going to effect the operation of those enterprise applications which don't currently function in chrome. Wondering if we will need to go back to IE to start using these, which I would not be happy about, just got rid of our last IE only service 2 months ago.

Chrome is my main browser for everything else, switched years ago from Firefox when updates keep on having issues with extensive memory on older Macs. Also like having cross platform compatibility (Mac OS, iOS, and Windows), Firefox was too late to the game for iOS.
 
Well, I'm always up for something (sidebar, but I've been following the Microsoft's Design blog, I really dig a lot of what they're doing with fluent design). I'm on android and would like to give something else a try that's cross-platform (FireFox is still stuttering a ton when scrolling). I'd love to see what Microsoft can do with Edge this time around.
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Firefox was too late to the game for iOS.

Android too. Scrolling stutters a lot.
 
Chromium is open sourse today, on intel 32bit, 64 biitor on Arm processors. It's open source; nobody can take it away

Yeah :) Sorry should’ve been clearer. I read that one of the major blockers to people buying Windows S mode machines was not being able to get Chrome.

Let’s assume that MS (and its partners) will make the rumoured slimmer more locked down version of Windows on ARM with Windows Store apps only.

They can then market edge as basically the same as chrome - which you’re likely not going to be able to download (unless google uses the Microsoft chromium engine and puts it in the Microsoft store).
 
I was using Edge on my Windows 10 desktop but found it too buggy when navigating the iCloud website. Kept logging me out. However Edge on my iPhone worked quite well. I don’t trust google so I’m now using Firefox on my desktop and iPhone and am quite happy with it.
How about the iCloud site is the issue not Edge?
 
They are not discontinuing it. They are just changing the engine. Microsoft spent tons on marketing Edge and it happens to be the only one that can do 4K on Netflix in the market.
Lol, please describe a use case to me where you’d be watching Netflix IN A BROWSER, on a screen large enough that you could differentiate 4K.
Obviously, all mobile devices can load the app, & in my case- where I have my Mac mini connected to a 55” 4K Roku TV; I run Netflix via the Roku app- I can’t imagine wanting to instead connect up to my mini, run inside a browser, and control from the couch using my keyboard & trackpad, rather than a remote.
 
Good to be able to optimise your website rendering for the 0.1% using edge across all platforms.

Seriously though edge should have dropped the Explorer branding. That e fills anyone with dread! MS makes pretty solid software and edge is good but they made it DOA with that association.
 
What's the point? Just use Chrome then, or any of the other Chromium based browsers like Brave, Epic, or even Opera which are available now. I cannot imagine any worthwhile differentiator that MS will bring in this instance.

I can see the value within businesses. I have a remote instance of Windows on my Macbook so that I can use internet explorer to log into certain sites, mainly affiliated to M$.
Hopefully this will address it. I hate having to log into Windows.
 
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